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Why are some Polish people dark complected,and others very light


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ArturSzastak
  Mar 25, 07, 19:07  #211

Quoting: lovely
How would that make me racist? I could care less what anyone's race is. I just think it's stupid for ANYONE not to take responsibilty for their own actions.



I understand, but Jose's been attacked since day one. People are just trying to piss him off left and right. I can't stand it, they just keep coming back with different names and trying to make him look like the bad guy. (I know you're not racist, it's just we should avoid this whole topic on this forum)

Quoting: Sedzia
We could meet up some time depending on location. I am no coward I will say anything I say on here in face to face. Think about it.



Sure, where you have in mind??? I live in Erie,PA. Just pick anywhere near by and I'll see you there. Just have a sign that says "SEDZIA" right next to you, okay?

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Sedzia [Guest]
  Mar 25, 07, 19:20  #212

I understand, but Jose's been attacked since day one. People are just trying to piss him off left and right. I can't stand it, they just keep coming back with different names and trying to make him look like the bad guy. (I know you're not racist, it's just we should avoid this whole topic on this forum)

Oh shut up. Man you are pathetic. The admins know whos who don't be stupid. Now you know hse isint racist but you decided to call her one a few posts later? YES ok..

"Sure, where you have in mind??? I live in Erie,PA. Just pick anywhere near by and I'll see you there. Just have a sign that says "SEDZIA" right next to you, okay?"

You have an email? we will arrange a place.

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ArturSzastak
Edited by: ArturSzastak  Mar 25, 07, 19:32  #213

Quoting: Sedzia
Oh shut up. Man you are pathetic. The admins know whos who don't be stupid. Now you know hse isint racist but you decided to call her one a few posts later? YES ok..



I SAID, "WITH THAT KIND OF LOGIC" not flat out she is racists. It meant that if that kind of thinking was applied to everything, everyone on this damn forum is racist.

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 25, 07, 19:33  #214

Quoting: Sedzia
You have an email? we will arrange a place.



I'm not giving you my damn email, so you can send me all you're damn thoughts everyday. No way. Post the place right here.

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shewolf
  Mar 25, 07, 19:34  #215

Quoting: ArturSzastak
The Mighty Cortes has over 500,000 descendants today that were all from his original "native mexican" wives


They're busy over there, arent they?

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 25, 07, 19:35  #216

Quoting: shewolf
They're busy over there, arent they?



You know it. Kinda like miranda's bunny

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Sedzia [Guest]
  Mar 25, 07, 19:36  #217

You are scared. Don't worry I would never hurt anyone. SAID, "WITH THAT KIND OF LOGIC" Oh now we have another puerto taking one thing and calling it another. You two need to detail your posts ahead of time rather then trying to twist things around after.

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 25, 07, 19:38  #218

Quoting: Sedzia
You are scared. Don't worry I would never hurt anyone. SAID, "WITH THAT KIND OF LOGIC" Oh now we have another puerto taking one thing and calling it another. You two need to detail your posts ahead of time rather then trying to twist things around after.



How can the meaning of "With that kind of logic" suddenly mean something else to me? I know what I said. Those were my exact words. I changed nothing.


And oh yeah, I'm ******* Puerto Rican Hell yeah. Thats totally me. Puerto Rican Artur.....living in Eire, PA......right.

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Sedzia [Guest]
  Mar 25, 07, 19:41  #219

Oh I see now I found what I need.

thank you

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 25, 07, 19:43  #220

Quoting: Sedzia
Oh I see now I found what I need.

thank you



Glad I could help. Now can we just get off this stupid topic of RACISM and get to know the real you?


Where you from Sedzia?

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lovely
  Mar 25, 07, 19:44  #221

Quoting: ArturSzastak
SAID, "WITH THAT KIND OF LOGIC" not flat out she is racists. It meant that if that kind of thinking was applied to everything, everyone on this damn forum is racist.


Artur, how is what I said racist? You still haven't told me. I don't appreciate being called a racist just because I don't agree with Jose's lame posts. I'm not the one bringing up race every other thread.

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Sedzia [Guest]
  Mar 25, 07, 19:44  #222

Lublin

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 25, 07, 19:48  #223

Quoting: lovely
Artur, how is what I said racist? You still haven't told me. I don't appreciate being called a racist just because I don't agree with Jose's lame posts. I'm not the one bringing up race every other thread.



If I prove it can this be the last thing ever said about racism? PLEASE??? Ok how about this, I AM SORRY I CALLED YOU RACIST! I love you for who you are. Will that work?


Quoting: Sedzia
Lublin


Cool. What kind of work you do out there?

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Styles
Edited by: Styles  Mar 25, 07, 19:50  #224

P.S We tried sending blacks back to africa, Liberia the so called ''promise land'' but meh Africans didn't accept them either.

Whites don't owe anything to anyone, jose are you really a teacher? You like brain washing kids? No wonder so many whites have white guilt these days, its quite sad.

second most ''white peoples greedy ancestors'' immigarted to america after slavery and worked non stop to put food in their mouth and familys, its very disrespectful for you to talk about my race the way you do, we were not slave hungry greedy people, unlike you spaniards.

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lovely
  Mar 25, 07, 19:59  #225

Quoting: ArturSzastak
If I prove it can this be the last thing ever said about racism? PLEASE??? Ok how about this, I AM SORRY I CALLED YOU RACIST! I love you for who you are. Will that work?


mmm ok...no hard feelings .

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 25, 07, 20:00  #226

Quoting: lovely
mmm ok...no hard feelings .



Thank you. Is that your pic on the avatar??

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lovely
  Mar 25, 07, 20:06  #227

nope, just a random avatar . and you? have you posted yours somewhere?

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 25, 07, 20:13  #228

Quoting: lovely
nope, just a random avatar . and you? have you posted yours somewhere?



I would, but no digital camera


Otherwise I'd have a myspace also

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lovely
  Mar 25, 07, 20:24  #229

I might post mine later. You can still make a myspace, though, and add your pic later. It's pretty cool . Anyways, Im off for a hike cya.

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josecitomadera [Guest]
  Mar 26, 07, 10:20  #230

Quoting: lovely
You ARE a racist and anti-American. Every time I read your illogical and rambling posts, I am embarrassed that such an idiot lives in my country.

What is anti-american is denying any American is rights namely freedom of speech. I have a right to voice my opinion. I stand by most things I have said here. Some things I have said that were out of line I have recanted. It's my belief that America owes the descendants of black slaves the 40 acres and 1 mule they were promised by Congress. Here read this and learn how Congress reneged on their promise to BLACK slaves.

WIKIPEDIA
40 acres and a mule is another term for compensation that was to be awarded to freed American slaves after the Civil War— 40 acres (16 ha) of land to farm, and a mule with which to drag a plow so the land could be cultivated.

The award—a land grant of a quarter of a quarter section (a common homestead size of the time) deeded to heads of households presumably formerly owned by land-holding whites—was the product of Special Field Orders, No. 15, issued January 16, 1865 by Maj. Gen. William T. Sherman, which applied to black families who lived near the coasts of South Carolina, Georgia and Florida. Sherman's orders specifically allocated "the islands from Charleston, south, the abandoned rice fields along the rivers for thirty miles back from the sea, and the country bordering the St. Johns river, Florida." There was no mention of mules in Sherman's order, although the Army may have distributed them anyway.

After the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln, his successor, Andrew Johnson, revoked Sherman's Orders. It is sometimes mistakenly claimed that Johnson also vetoed the enactment of the policy as a federal statute (introduced as U.S. Senate Bill 60). In fact, the Freedmen's Bureau Bill which he vetoed made no mention of grants of land or mules. (Another version of the Freedmen's bill, also without the land grants, was later passed after Johnson's second veto was overridden.)

By June of 1865, around 40,000 freed slaves were settled on 400,000 acres (1,600 km&sup2 in Georgia and South Carolina. Soon after, President Johnson reversed the order and returned the land to its white former owners. Because of this, the phrase has come to represent the failure of Reconstruction and the general public to assist African Americans in the path from slavery to freedom.

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Edited by: josecitomadera  Mar 26, 07, 10:27  #231

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After the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln, his successor, Andrew Johnson, revoked Sherman's Orders.


I come to you with knowledge and truth. You lash back with expletives, vitriolic remarks and innuendo. Oh lest I forget, even direct threats of bodily harm and you presume to descend from such an upright and noble race when you issue threats as if you were God. How dare anyone even think of saying such a thing to you in person. Then you respond that such a person is a coward. Hate me all you like but it doesn't change the facts. Your hatred blinds you from seeing what has been done to the black man since the Emancipation Proclamation.

Quoting: josecitomadera
By June of 1865, around 40,000 freed slaves were settled on 400,000 acres (1,600 km&sup2 in Georgia and South Carolina. Soon after, President Johnson reversed the order and returned the land to its white former owners.


Twice the orders were revoked. A sworn promise and an army directive yet they were pushed off the land twice. Is this justice? Is this justice my good fair Polish people who have suffered so much in the past? I direct this to the non-racist good Polish people here. Is it fair??

Quoting: josecitomadera
the phrase has come to represent the failure of Reconstruction and the general public to assist African Americans in the path from slavery to freedom.


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FISZ
Edited by: FISZ  Mar 26, 07, 10:36  #232

Quoting: josecitomadera
It's my belief that America owes the descendants of black slaves the 40 acres and 1 mule they were promised by Congress.

Whatever. White Americans living today never owned slaves and should not be held accountable for the ‘sins of their fathers’.

...also by 1865, 40,000 freedmen had received 400,000 acres of abandoned Confederate land.

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FISZ
  Mar 26, 07, 10:43  #233

Amd believe me, A Americans are doing well for themselves these days. As long as they get an education, there's just as much opportunity. My ancestors went through the same situations and I'm not asking for anything back.

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josecitomadera [Guest]
  Mar 26, 07, 10:47  #234

Quoting: FISZ
also by 1865, 40,000 freedmen had received 400,000 acres of abandoned Confederate land.

1865 (October) A reluctant General O. Howard, Chair of the Freedmen's Bureau assigned the task to tell freed slaves in Georgia and South Carolina that they must return the land they had settled on to the original owners. Some 2,000 Blacks came to the local church on Edisto Island to hear his comments. Howard said the freed slaves need to "lay aside their bitter feelings. and to become reconciled to their old masters." They responded "No, never!" "Can't do it!" "Why, General Howard, do you take away our lands?" Petitions by Blacks were drafted to protest betrayal. The first stated: " General, we want Homesteads, we were promised Homesteads by the government. If it does not carry out the promises its agents made to us...we are left in a more unpleasant condition than our former....You will see this is not the condition of really free men." (Eric Foner & Joshua Brown Forever Free: The Story of Emancipation and Reconstruction)

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FISZ
  Mar 26, 07, 10:49  #235

True, but it's over. We all live happily ever after. We still shouldn't be responsible for things we're not guilty of.

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josecitomadera [Guest]
  Mar 26, 07, 10:49  #236

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Amd believe me, A Americans are doing well for themselves these days. As long as they get an education, there's just as much opportunity. My ancestors went through the same situations and I'm not asking for anything back.

Are you African American? If so why haven't you said anything to these racists?

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Edited by: FISZ  Mar 26, 07, 10:52  #237

No, I'm not black. And it's been too many years to give a rats ass. Life is too short to worry about what the governmment owes the people.

I've learned that racists will be the same people no matter what you say. They say what they do because they 're ammused by the reaction of people that complain about it all the time. The worls will always be full of these people. Why humor them? It's not I that lives in a world of fear like they do.

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Patrycja19
  Mar 26, 07, 11:06  #238

Quoting: josecitomadera
It's my belief that America owes the descendants of black slaves the 40 acres and 1 mule they were promised by Congress.


Correction Govt. many Americans are Immigrants which had no direct involvment
in slavery, or stealing lands. so lets be more specific, because I am polish and
sorry, but I am not paying for something my family never even came remotely close
to being involved in . I understand their past, and history changed alot since then
I dont think the african community suffered as much as poland did which happened
60 plus years ago and the comparison cant be even measured to. do I think they
deserve something now? Yes, respect as everyone does, do I think Poland deserves
more ( Hell yes) because they had much more loss, slaves in America might have
suffered, but nothing like in Europe. I would rather pick cotton and serve a master
then die in a gas chamber naked with my whole family next to me and knowing
your last breath would be minutes from that last thought.

I have no problems with people celebrating a national movement to secure their
rights as they should have them living in America, WHen I hear such stories it makes
me upset, because I feel its wrong to live here and someone dictate what drinking
fountain you can drink out of, but that is nothing compared to walking outside on
a street and soldiers hold up guns pointed at you or someone in your family and
take the children away sending them on trains far away from their parents while
these people get shot in streets and I could go on, so no, I dont feel they deserve
40 acres and 1 mule, this is 2007 and as Poland had to move on with bitterness
in their hearts, and memorials standing in every place where a mass grave was
dug, I think that the african Americans should move on too.

I give only my respect to those who make efforts to improve their lives in a
constructive way, this goes for any nation willing to go the distance to make their
lives better their own way, because life doesnt give handouts, we all know that!

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stanrntn [Guest]
  Mar 29, 07, 17:33  #239

Quoting: Sedzia
Quote . Mar 21, 07, 7:42pm . #129


"Blacks suffered at the hands of white European slave masters"

Yeah I would not be be surprized if is all just a made up barrel of bullmularky!

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apo
  Oct 16, 07, 11:20  #240

also germans, dutch and english have dark people, even scandinavian, but the dark polish, german english, etc have white features.

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