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Why are some Polish people dark complected,and others very light


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rasji [Guest]
  Sep 25, 08, 11:28  #271

my dad was dark skin polish too. dark hair skin and eyes. last name chicaleski. i have wondered what he was mixed with as well because i see so much fair polish people... christachicaleski@hotmail.com his parents came over in 1920s he was born in 1933

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PhillyBoy [Guest]
  Oct 12, 08, 00:26  #272

We are mostly of Nordic blood (blond to light brown hair and blue or gray eyes) with an admixture of Alpine blood. This is primarily due to the fact that we've mixed for centuries with Nordic people like the Scandinavians who conquered the Slavic people in todays Poland Ukraine and Russia in the 800's before Poland existed. Later we've mixed with Germans for centuries, and also with Ukranians, other ethnic groups had a slight impact on our outlook.

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Warsaw8
  Oct 12, 08, 02:39  #273

Pale white polack here and loving it! 100% pure ;)

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DomPolski
  Oct 18, 08, 22:12  #274

How do you figure philly boy since I find the most common hair colour in POland is brown. I have never seen a pole with Scandinavian / Nordic features only a few with German but that was because one of their parents was germ

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Granpa
  Oct 24, 08, 01:58  #275

Good day -

It's all in the Genes (as it were) ! Those who posted comments concerning genetic interaction pretty-much answered the question in terms associated with DNA.

To add two general points -

1. A very great portion of the peoples who migrated into the plains of Polonia did so through the Near East which proved favorable with respect to interculturation, intermarriage and procreation. As a group moving forward, certain individual DNA became slightly "modified".

2. The Mongol Invasions into Poland, Hungary, Russia and others, circa 1240 AD were, logically, responsible for another DNA modification, especially when one considers that during occupation, marriage was not considered an obstacle to human procreation.

At this point, with massive infusion of Mongol DNA into a group already containing Near East DNA modification, the phrase "Latent Genetics" developed {Hidden Genetics} which is still valid today.

If the DNA [YDNA & MTDNA] of a Polish Mother and Father are receptive, sometimes these latent (hidden) genetics trigger an occurance that reflects some of the physical traits of a Family ancestor(s) who were forced to procreate and in some cases where their children were forced to procreate as well during the long occupation.



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Guest
  Oct 24, 08, 06:37  #276

Dom means Gipsy.

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DomPolski
  Oct 27, 08, 06:34  #277

Granpa I great points.

And Guest, who ever you are. No I do not. Even so why do you call them Gipsy, not Polish?

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PhillyBoy [Guest]
  Nov 2, 08, 19:53  #278

DomPolski, The Germans(Saxons to be exact)of northern Germany are Nordic people just like the Scandinavians are, Scandinavia and Germany are where all people who have Nordic phisical traits (Blond hair blue eyes tall stature) originate. Scandinavians mixed with Russians Ukranians, Germans with Poles, and Czechs. About 1/3 of Poles are pure Nordic , and 70% have at least one Nordic trait. originally all Slavs looked like Byelorussians (Bialorusini) who mostly have brown hair and eyes, and are believed to be of the the purest Slavic blood. does that answer all ur questions??

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shopgirl
  Nov 2, 08, 21:20  #279

PhillyBoy:

originally all Slavs looked like Byelorussians (Bialorusini) who mostly have brown hair and eyes, and are believed to be of the the purest Slavic blood.

Why would Belarussians be purest Slavs? Did they not get to mix with others over history? I don't see any barriers.....

*scratches head*

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Granpa
  Nov 3, 08, 03:58  #280

Good day to the list ~

So far, those associated with such things are unable to gain wide acceptance of an accurate definition or a root source for the word "Slav". You can run a google search and read about their efforts.

In essence, as migrating peoples moved into Europe, a rather large group of individuals, who called themselves Slavs, banded together during their migration and therefore arrived together (more or less) as "One".

They had their own language, a general and somewhat common YDNA sequence, and for the most part experienced all the trials, tribulations, love, and joy associated with any group of immigrants into a "new" country.

As time passed, the Slavic Empire grew to such proportions that it actually got too big and started fracturing into splinter groups who moved outward into newer lands.

The first splinter group is called "Southern Slav's" and consisted of todays Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia Herzegovina, Slovenia, and Macedonia.

The second group is called the "Western Slav's" which consists of todays Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, and Sorbia.

The last and biggest group were the "Eastern Slav's", which consists of todays Belarush, Russia, and the Ukraine.

Each group went away with a common language, the Slavic language. As the centuries passed, each group modified the Mother language by changing words, verbage, grammatics, all to suit themselves, their geographics and the pecularities of their location and their individuality.

Today we all consider each language separate and distinct, however, they all stem from a common past. That's why if you speak a Slavic language today, such as Polish, and with some great difficulty you may be able to carry on a limited conversation with say, a Russian.

In the absence of the written word through the early centuries, a simple story has been passed down, Father to Son, common to all Slavic groups mentioned above. It was first found as a written script in 1125 :

--From their Father, the boys left to seek their place in life ~ Czech, Lech, and Russ. They traveled together and eventually found themselves at the banks of the Elbe river. Here Czech settled, starting a large Family and bid his brothers farewell.

Lech and Russ found their way into the turf swamps of the Valdai Hills, the headwaters of the Volga River. Here Russ settled and his children were more numerous than the fingers of both his hands. He bid Lech success in his travels.

Lech eventually came into the lands of Polonia, near what today is the area around Gniezno. As he stood proudly to survey the land for agriculture, a lone tree towards the West caught his attention. Basked in the red glow of the last rays of the setting sun, he spied a White Eagle in branch of the tree.

Here, he thought, I will settle. From this moment onward the White Eagle on a red background is the National Symbol of Poland.

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Nizzy [Guest]
  Nov 8, 08, 15:41  #281

As far as skin color and hair goes, My brother looks like the typical slav: Blond hair, blue eyes, high cheek bones, stronger facial features...I am dark hair (brown, almost black, curly hair) Brown/hazel eyes, and I have olive coloured skin.

When me and my brother were younger, people would ask my mother if we had the same father!

People constantly ask if I'm Greek, Italian, or Spanish...

My fathers side is 100% polish--all have light eyes, and most with dark hair.
My mother side is Spanish--She's a red head with Hazel eyes.

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rdywenur
  Nov 8, 08, 16:10  #282

In my family there are two girls and two boys. My sister keeps being asked if she is Spanish and my younger brother is a towhead with blue eyes. The rest are brown hair and brown or hazel eyes. My mom has dark hair and dark eyes and my dad (bald very early age) so we can't tell about him...LOL... but blue eyes. Mix it all up and you get what you get.

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