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 Jul 27, 10, 16:41    #1
Tomasz Adamek is fighting Michael Grant is last fight before he fights a Klitschko, Haye, or Povetkin the last one is probably most likely to happen, is trainers Roger Bloodworth and Ronnie Shields don't wanna stick him with the most dangerous opponents just yet. Grant's chin has failed him in the past on numerous occasions Golota dropped him twice, Lewis 4 times, Guinn 7 times!!! Adamek isn't a big puncher like Golota was in his prime but Grant isn't exactly a young fighter. Adamek is sparing with Dominick Guinn hoping he'll teach him some tricks. I have nothing against the Klitschkos both great fighters, but their fights are BORING. I hope the days of Bowe, Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, Golota will come back.



fly  Jul 28, 10, 17:51    #2
Adamek should win?
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Edited by: Nathan  Jul 29, 10, 07:03    #3
PennBoy:
Adamek isn't a big puncher like Golota was in his prime

You mean big balls-puncher? He dropped Bowe`s balls twice ;)
PennBoy:
I have nothing against the Klitschkos both great fighters

Agree :)
PennBoy:
I hope the days of Golota will come back.

Come on, man, what`s wrong with you?
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Edited by: PennBoy  Jul 29, 10, 13:39    #4
Nathan:
PennBoy:
I hope the days of Golota will come back.

Come on, man, what`s wrong with you?

Nothing is wrong with me, i know Golota isn't coming back he's old, i said days of Bowe, Holyfiled, Tyosn, Lewis, Golota will come back, not the fighters they're all done, but people who fight like they did, not afraid to "open up" in the ring and take major risks. Have you even watched any of Golota's fights?? he was beating Bowe hands down in both bouts, i'm not talking about a few low blows, Bowe took so many hard punches from Golota, that he ended his career. I know you love your Klitschkos but they're boring, boxing is supposed to be exciting. Klitschko-Peter that had to be one of the dullest bouts in history of boxing. Days like this...


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 Jul 30, 10, 15:33    #5
PennBoy:
Have you even watched any of Golota's fights??

I watched plenty of Golota fights. And he was never a fighter. Adamek and Sosnowski are fighters and deserve to be called as such.
PennBoy:
I know you love your Klitschkos but they're boring, boxing is supposed to be exciting.

Of course, I do. But how running from Tyson in the 2nd round and being knocked-down 3 times in the 1st minute of the boxing match against Brewster in front of cheering and hoping Polish population of Chicago makes it more exciting?
If you are interested in hard-core stuff - watch MMA fights. Boxing became an art of technique, strategy and athletism, not mug-punching-crowd-cheering-blood-spilling entertainment. Take a look at Vitali Klitschko vs Corrie Sanders or Lennox Lewis (refused to rematch). I bet this is what you might be talking about.
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Edited by: PennBoy  Jul 30, 10, 15:57    #6
Nathan:
Boxing became an art of technique, strategy and athletism, not mug-punching-crowd-cheering-blood-spilling entertainment.

Ask George Foreman, Larry Merchant, Gil Clancy if Golota wasn't a great technician, throwing good combinations shifting his body afterward, turning sideways not giving his opponent a chance to connect with solid punches. Lou Duva made a good boxer out of him. I'm not disputing he hasn't done alot of stupid stuff, i know all about them, he obviously has psychological issues and for that alone he shouldn't be boxing, but the wat he dominated top fighters showing his skills, beating them legally,(until he disqualified or quit himself) you gotta give him credit for that. When he fought Brewster he was almost 40, a long time since his prime, that's a grandfather in boxing, your skills, reflexes are a fraction of what they used to be. Brewster knocked out Wladimir a younger man with a few shots, Wladimir couldn't get up he was really hurt for a long time after the fight was over. Golota must have taken 15 or 20 hard solid punches from Brewster in that first round.
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 Jul 30, 10, 16:02    #7
Nathan:
Boxing became an art of technique, strategy and athletism, not mug-punching-crowd-cheering-blood-spilling entertainment. Take a look at Vitali Klitschko vs Corrie Sanders or Lennox Lewis (refused to rematch). I bet this is what you might be talking about.


In all fairness, Vitali fights like he's playing chess - methodical, slow and not at all exciting. He racks up win after win by doing so, but he never will be someone who puts asses on seats and will never capture the hearts of the world in the same way that others have done.

At the same time, it's up to his opponents to put a stop to him - a win is a win, and history records winners.

I'd quite like to see Haye against Vitali - Vitali is by far the more powerful fighter, but could he cope with 12 rounds of Haye's speed? Lewis tired Vitali out (Lewis was tired too, though!) - and that was an unmotivated Lewis. But then again, Vitali could knock out Haye with a few big shots.
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 Jul 30, 10, 19:23    #8
Adamek did well against a 41-8 boxer in Go這ta. He totally picked him apart. I'm suprised Go這ta didn't run. The Foul Pole, LOL. Adamek is a different level but he needs to hit a bit harder to increase his KO potential.
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Edited by: PennBoy  Jul 31, 10, 01:18    #9
Seanus:
damek did well against a 41-8 boxer in Go這ta

Seanus, Golota was 40 or 41 in that fight, at 262 lbs. if i remember correctly, a guy who's fighting weight is 240. he was old and out of shape, 10 years earlier Adamek wouldn't know which way to run.
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 Jul 31, 10, 05:53    #10
delphiandomine:
In all fairness, Vitali fights like he's playing chess - methodical, slow and not at all exciting. He racks up win after win by doing so, but he never will be someone who puts asses on seats and will never capture the hearts of the world in the same way that others have done.

Come on, man :) He won 37 out of 40 by KO. Did Golota or anyone else have done it? Vitali Klitschko has the highest knock-out rate in the boxing history (~95%). How many fights with Klitchko Dr. Ironfist :) ended in round 12?
Just one. And this is exciting. Look at Ali fights, he was retreating in his fights and while doing so he threw the punches. This was his strategy. How interesting is that if you are willing to see one-blow knock-out? I bet if Klitschko was Polish, not Ukrainian (YEYYYY!) you would have jumped out of your pants glorifying him. Poland has much more talented boxers than Golota have ever been.
delphiandomine:
Lewis tired Vitali out (Lewis was tired too, though!) - and that was an unmotivated Lewis.

Oh, come on - cut the crap. Unmotivated, old, half-dead, injured swan,... He was 38 and defending the fukcing World Boxing Title. Lewis was a great boxer, no doubt whatsoever (a legend), but he refused to give Klitschko the rematch to the fight Lewis was losing on all score-cards. If not the cut over Vitali's eye or more correctly, if the referree hadn't stopped the fight, Vitali would have put Lewis on canvas no questions asked.
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 Jul 31, 10, 09:18    #11
Lewis was losing that fight as he was holding back too much. He seemed a bit intimidated but was able to absorb some heavy blows. I hope Adamek pounds Grant to set him up with a bigger fight. He could take Haye but he'd need to be at his very best.
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Edited by: PennBoy  Jul 31, 10, 16:36    #12
Seanus:
Lewis was losing that fight as he was holding back too much. He seemed a bit intimidated but was able to absorb some heavy blows.

Yep, Lewis landed harder punches, look what he did to his face, the one uppercut which Lewis landed i thought was gonna separate his head from his body. I'll admit it was pretty even but Lewis was doing more damage. A motivated Lewis was Lewis-Grant, he gave him no chance kept him an amateur, wouldn't give him no breathing room.



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 Jul 31, 10, 16:47    #13
Lewis didn't give him much of a look-in but I still feel that he was a bit too open sometimes. He didn't use his jab very well here but could afford to be a bit tentative.

As for Go這ta, he would have taken Adamek ten years ago. He had more power and precision.
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 Aug 21, 10, 13:22    #14
Go Adamek! You will be the underdog but you can do this :) Keep moving and you'll eventually catch him.



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