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ShawnHThreads: 9
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Wroclaw Boy:
it used to be most golds first

Was this always the only way of looking at it? An official rule?
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ShawnH:
Was this always the only way of looking at it? An official rule?

Was until 2006 when the US changed it, go back to even their last hosted winter games 2002 salt lake city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Winter_Olympics

Gold, Silver, Bronze, Total
1 Norway 13 5 7 25
2 Germany 12 16 8 36
3 United States (host nation) 10 13 11 34
4 Canada 7 3 7 17
5 Russia 5 4 4 13

So judging by the new current system Germany should have topped the table.

Why would they change it? I think because they didnt want China beating them in 2008.

I remember having this argumewnt with Americans at the time they were all "no we have more medals so we win" they seemed to totally forget the fact that Golds dictate who wins. Talk about media ruling in the US.

They'll convince the US public to goto war with the EU before long.
matteroftaste  Feb 20, 10, 17:02    #93
Wroclaw Boy:
So judging by the new current system Germany should have topped the table.

how do you figure that?

We have more gold and more medals altogether.
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matteroftaste:
how do you figure that?

Im talking about:

Wroclaw Boy:
Gold, Silver, Bronze, Total

1 Norway 13 5 7 25
2 Germany 12 16 8 36
3 United States (host nation) 10 13 11 34
4 Canada 7 3 7 17
5 Russia 5 4 4 13
So judging by the new current system Germany should have topped the above table.

Its the medal table from the Salt Lake city winter games, if they were using the current US system Germany would have won. But they didnt and that was an American games, so why the change?

I'm well aware that the US is top at the moment on both counts.
matteroftaste Edited by: matteroftaste  Feb 20, 10, 18:54    #95
Wroclaw Boy:
would have won.

oh, OK, you're talking about the past.

I personally prefer to count gold medals but I have to admit that if there's a huge difference between the total amount of medals and gold medals, it would look strange to see it that way.

let's say

A has 7G 5S 4B
B has 5G 8S 9B

?????????? what do you say man?
ShawnHThreads: 9
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Wroclaw Boy:
Was until 2006 when the US changed it, go back to even their last hosted winter games 2002 salt lake city.

Interesting. The IOC website doesn't provide an easy search of "medal counts" or "medal tables"

But another source agrees with your assertation that the medals should be counted "gold first"

The ranking in this table is based on information provided by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), and is consistent with the IOC convention in its published medal tables. By default, the table is ordered by the number of gold medals earned by a nation's athletes (in this context, a "nation" is an entity represented by an NOC). The number of silver medals won is taken into consideration next, followed by the number of bronze medals. If nations are still tied, an equal ranking is given and they are listed alphabetically by IOC country code.

Source...
z_dariusThreads: 22
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I am very excited about the Olympics. The event lead to some hilarious situation.
A fella from Sidney (Australia) expressed his surprised that most Canadians are abriginals, and one Toronto Star columnist wrote abut the opening ceremonies: the eyes of the world were upon us and we put them to sleep.
Jasia  Feb 20, 10, 19:08    #98
OMG!!!

Did you like hear the Great England won a gold medal in the winter olympics?

OMG!!!

Eddie the Eagle like so rocks!
Bratwurst BoyThreads: 11
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Ooopsie..just learned that the designer of the high-speed (to high?) bob sledge in Whistler is a German, from Leipzig...

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/news-centre/newsid=45121.html

....
From his laboratory in Leipzig, Germany, this 71-year-old engineer found how to make cement tracks slick. He figured a way for concrete as wide as a man's hand to hold not just a four-man bobsled but a sophisticated network of steel tubes piping coolant down the icy tracks. Gurgel's inventions have made his engineering firm one of only two places in the world capable of designing tracks for winter Olympics.

But his most recent design, the Whistler luge track at the Vancouver Winter Olympics, proved to be the fastest ever, faster than he had thought it would be, with top speeds exceeding 130 kilometres an hour. After the death last Friday, at extraordinary speed, of the young Georgian luger Nodar Kumaritashvili in a practice run, the track's design, and the decisions behind it, have come under scrutiny.
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Bratwurst Boy:
Ooopsie..just learned that the designer of the high-speed (to high?) bob sledge in Whistler is a German, from Leipzig...

I think we can safely rename the Whistler track to Blitztrack.
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z_darius:
I think we can safely rename the Whistler track to Blitztrack.

heh:)

PS: Can we somehow claim Lindsay Vonn for Germany??? (She speaks perfect German...) ;)
ukpolskaThreads: 51
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Just found a nice little site showing all the Winter Olympics in English online eurovisionsports.tv/olympics/

Sky jumping is just about to start on ch 3
matteroftaste  Feb 20, 10, 21:39    #103
Bratwurst Boy:
PS: Can we somehow claim Lindsay Vonn for Germany??? (She speaks perfect German...) ;)

you almost can, she has German ancestors
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matteroftaste:
you almost can, she has German ancestors

"Almost" :(

;)
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matteroftaste:
let's say

A has 7G 5S 4B
B has 5G 8S 9B

?????????? what do you say man?

I think it should be most gold wins not total medals. If they are going to take total medals theyre should be segregation (sliding scale) between silver and bronze.

Bratwurst Boy:
Ooopsie..just learned that the designer of the high-speed (to high?) bob sledge in Whistler is a German, from Leipzig...

Shut up man will ya.

ukpolska:
Sky jumping is just about to start on ch 3

Very happy to see Adam Malysz take the silver in that, that Swiss guy is virtually unbeatable - 144 meters wow.

Bratwurst Boy:
Can we somehow claim Lindsay Vonn for Germany???

Im OK to swap her for Shaun White, did you see his half pipe run? just mind boggling. The Flying Tomato lol.
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Wroclaw Boy:
Im OK to swap her for Shaun White, did you see his half pipe run? just mind boggling.

Lindsay Vonn is more cute! (cuter? cutestest???)
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How did Andreas Wank do - did he come first ?
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szkotja2007:
How did Andreas Wank do - did he come first ?

He came in about the middle of the field or so. Could've done better, but his aim was off a bit. Spurted into the air a bit early too, which cost him dearly. Sadly, the length and style just wasn't good enough for a medal.





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Damn, I thought he would have pulled it off.
matteroftaste  Feb 22, 10, 04:42    #110
Wroclaw Boy:
I think it should be most gold wins not total medals.

I agree with you to the certain extent. If the difference is only few medals but if it's like 10 or more, I'm not sure about it anymore.


Great job guys !!!!!! 5:3 against Canada. Party time, lol.
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Wroclaw Boy:
I think it should be most gold wins not total medals.

Tricky.
How about two countries, one with a single gold medal and another with 10 silver medals. Which of the two has better athletes overall?

One way of looking handling it is giving points to medals gold 3, silver 2, bronze 1 and then doing the math.
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matteroftaste:
Great job guys !!!!!! 5:3 against Canada. Party time, lol.

I've seen it...the US deserved it!
They were fitter, more determined, the Canadians seemed sleepy, Brodeur sucked...well now it goes against Germany in the k.o. round...should be easy points (for Canada that is)! ;)
matteroftaste Edited by: matteroftaste  Feb 22, 10, 15:59    #113
Bratwurst Boy:
should be easy points (for Canada that is)! ;)

I'm not so sure about that, anything is possible. It all depends on how bad the Germans will want to win this game. I'm convinced, at least they can give them a hell of a fight although I also expect Canadians to win it. Then again, all the, so called experts on MSNBC were predicting Canadians to win against us too. You never know.
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matteroftaste:
It all depends on how bad the Germans will want to win this game.

The spirit is willing but the flesh...oh the flesh!
matteroftaste  Feb 22, 10, 16:12    #115
Bratwurst Boy:
The spirit is willing but the flesh...oh the flesh!

Hey, not too many people were giving us a chance too and look what happened :-).

Anything is possible.
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matteroftaste:
I'm not so sure about that, anything is possible.

indeed but Germany will never beat Canada at ice hockey.
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Wroclaw Boy:
indeed but Germany will never beat Canada at ice hockey.

Or...we better say: once Canada beats Germany in football THEN everything is possible! ;) :)
matteroftaste  Feb 22, 10, 16:25    #118
Wroclaw Boy:
indeed but Germany will never beat Canada at ice hockey.

well, I'm expecting Canadians to win too but I wouldn't say never. Look at Sweden, only 2:0 against the Germans.
matteroftaste  Feb 22, 10, 16:56    #119
Czyryca:
I wish they would, but I dont see it happening.

hey,I wonder if you still don't see it happening, lol
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Wroclaw Boy:
indeed but Germany will never beat Canada at ice hockey.

The way they played against the US they could be beat by Haiti.

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