Cry lewis hamilton come on Kubica

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Mar 14, 09, 20:03 #1

is only 14 days , 5 hours ,30 minutes and a few seconds for the new season .
can this year kubica make the difference?
the bmw team are not so far from the mclaren and the ferraris , and i hope this year he can be in the top .
not more excuses for him! your time has come !!!!

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Mar 15, 09, 02:17 #2

Let battle commence.

Here's what Ladbrokes think:

Drivers:

Kimi Raikkonen 7/2
Lewis Hamilton 7/2
Felipe Massa 9/2
Fernando Alonso 5/1
Jenson Button 7/1
Robert Kubica 7/1
Rubens Barrichello 14/1
Sebastian Vettel 16/1
Nick Heidfeld 20/1
Heikki Kovalainen 33/1
Timo Glock 40/1
Jarno Trulli 50/1
Mark Webber 50/1
Nico Rosberg 66/1
Nelson Piquet Jnr 125/1
Kazuki Nakajima 200/1
Sebastien Bourdais 200/1
Sebastien Buemi 200/1
Adrian Sutil 500/1
Giancarlo Fisichella 500/1

Constructors:

Ferrari 11/8
McLaren 11/4
BMW Sauber 3/1
Brawn GP 7/1
Renault 12/1
Red Bull 20/1
Toyota 20/1
Williams 80/1
Toro Rosso 100/1
Force India 500/1

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Mar 15, 09, 12:11 #3
formula one is just a procession and boring as hell.

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Mar 15, 09, 17:05 #4
time means: boring as hell. If you have nothing good to say, then don't say it...

BlackzillaThreads: - Posts: 18 Joined: Jan 2, 08 ♂	Mar 15, 09, 19:59 #5
Ha Ha The BLACKMAN comes first yet again BIG UP!!!!! LEWIS HAMILTON the BLACK BRITISH WORLD F1 CHAMPION that sounds wicked yall

peterwegThreads: 30 Posts: 1,445 Joined: Feb 16, 07 ♂	Mar 17, 09, 17:37 #6
I suspect the KERS will the crucial feature of F1 this year so, with BMW's system looking good, I'm punting for Kubica this year.

espanaThreads: 39 Posts: 2,200 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Edited by: espana Mar 17, 09, 20:05 #7
Blackzilla: The BLACKMAN comes first yet again except a few years back when they use to go in the back of the buses .... ..............wait a minute , in spain and poland i think ,everybody use to sit wherever they want too , this was the english and the american thing where they didnt want your antesesors sit in the front of the buses , SADLY :(

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,160 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Mar 18, 09, 00:02 #8
According to the new rule, were they to be applied retroactively, Massa would have won the title and not Hamilton. It states that the winner is the person who amasses the most wins and not the most points.

Wroclaw Boy	Edited by: Wroclaw Boy Mar 20, 09, 11:36 #9
Im sure Lewis Hamilton will regain the crown, in terms of skill he has proven to be the best F1 driver out there at the moment.

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,814 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Mar 20, 09, 11:58 #10
I don't know, Alonso is a potential winner too. Seems that the car will be much better this season than last year. I wouldn't bet all my money on Lewis ;) Ferrari, Williams and BMW will probably be good opponents too.

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Mar 20, 09, 12:52 #11

Seanus:

According to the new rule, were they to be applied retroactively, Massa would have won the title and not Hamilton.

It states that the winner is the person who amasses the most wins and not the most points.

I don't believe this and I am so glad the bad language filter is in because this is a ****ing load of utter bull****.
I am really ****ed off with this bloody geriatric midget Bernie Ecclestone who is slowly ruining this sport.
This just shows you how stupid this idea is:
OK, here's a hypothetical scenario: Hamilton & Massa are tied on 5 wins each at the end of the season so we go back to points. Kubica with four wins and ten second places becomes champions as he has most points. Yeah, a really good idea Bernie!

I love the way they keep banging on about Massa clinching one more victory when we know he only clinched as many victories as clinched his butt cheeks at silverstone. Which was just five. The sixth was a gift from the FIA at the Belgian GP in Spa. Back to the point now. I think there are a few gaping holes in this scheme that will manifest themselves throughout the season. It's gonna be even easier for the FIA to tamper with the result now.

The worst part about this point system is that whichever team introduces KERS earlier in the season they will have a better chance of winning the championship early. It's not right for the FIA to decide now for the 09 season that the points system will be changed.

Many of the teams do not intend to start the season with KERS and now their entire campaign is ruined if they intended to introduce KERS later in the season. This only goes to prove that the FIA is an outdated disorganised rabble and should be disbanded as soon as possible and be replaced by a drivers organisation.

I am going to Yas Marina in The United Arab Emirates for the final race of the year hoping for a repeat of Brazil last year, after this I cannot see much point if the championship can be theoretically decided after nine races.

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Mar 20, 09, 13:14 #12

I completely agree, ukpolska. If it ain't broke, don't change it. That little weirdo needs to get his head out of his ass. I have always disliked the man. F1 tends to attract such self-confident jerks.

There is no real justification for tampering.

What if sb amasses shitloads of points for second places and only a couple of first places? That's still a good season. It's kinda like the first past the post system in politics where you award the winner and it's screw you Jack to the 2nd-placed person. Proportional representation is better. The same in F1. The new rule will disproportionately reflect the performance over the course of the season. Elitist wanker!

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Mar 20, 09, 14:57 #13

ukpolska:

OK, here's a hypothetical scenario: Hamilton & Massa are tied on 5 wins each at the end of the season so we go back to points. Kubica with four wins and ten second places becomes champions as he has most points. Yeah, a really good idea Bernie!

Is that really how it works? I presumed that if two drivers were tied on the number of wins, then the points system would come in to play, but only between the two drivers in question. That's to say (in your hypothetical situation) that either Massa or Hamilton would win the Championship depending on who had amassed more points!!

It's a bit of a joke system, without taking in to account that teams will clearly be backing one of their drivers from very early on in the season. It could well have the opposite effect desired (Although in Bernie's case the desire is clearly a Ferrari winner).

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Mar 20, 09, 16:49 #14

IronsE11:

Is that really how it works? I presumed that if two drivers were tied on the number of wins, then the points system would come in to play, but only between the two drivers in question. That's to say (in your hypothetical situation) that either Massa or Hamilton would win the Championship depending on who had amassed more points!!

You're right, if 2 drivers have won the same number of races, they will take the number of points into account.
It means that we already know who will be the next champion. Hamilton, Massa or maybe Alonso. But we never know ;)

espanaThreads: 39 Posts: 2,200 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Edited by: espana Mar 20, 09, 17:03 #15
Polson: I wouldn't bet all my money on Lewis ;) for me Kimi Raikkonen will be the next champion , if not the renault of nando is looking good :) and Frankenstein (kubica) too

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07 ♀	Mar 20, 09, 17:29 #16
I like F1, I also record it so when Im finding it hard to sleep I put it on ;0) Im off to the land of nod within minutes..who needs nightall when we've got F1 :)

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,814 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Mar 20, 09, 17:48 #17
espana: for me Kimi Raikkonen will be the next champion Yeah, he's got chances too. And Frankenstein?? Is that his new nick? ^^ Never heard that one before. ShelleyS: ShelleyS Am i feeling irony in what you said? ;)

IronsE11Threads: 2 Posts: 799 Joined: Mar 3, 08 ♂	Mar 20, 09, 18:06 #18
That's what I presumed Polson, but Ukpolska is saying that is not the case! If Massa and Hamilton are tied with 5 wins each, but have less points than say Kubica with 4 wins, who will the title go to?

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,814 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Mar 20, 09, 19:14 #19
Don't listen to Ukpolska! (sorry dude) I am the one to trust ^^ From what i read, if 2 drivers are tied at the end of the season, the one with more points wins! But i'd like Kubica to get the 'crown' ;)

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,159 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: ukpolska Mar 20, 09, 20:21 #20
Polson: Don't listen to Ukpolska! (sorry dude) I am the one to trust ^^ From what i read, if 2 drivers are tied at the end of the season, the one with more points wins! But i'd like Kubica to get the 'crown' ;) betch :) Hmmm, yes but what if each driver has the same points as well as same wins, that's the point that Eddy Jordan brought up but no one had an answer to it lol

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,159 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER ♂	Mar 20, 09, 20:37 #21
Common sense prevails :) Formula 1 has axed plans for a new scoring system in 2009 just nine days before the start of the season. NEWS LINK

espanaThreads: 39 Posts: 2,200 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Mar 20, 09, 20:43 #22
good news thank you the information ukpolska , one more thing ....... change your bloody avatar please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,159 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: ukpolska Mar 20, 09, 20:46 #23
espana: good news thank you the information ukpolska , one more thing ....... change your bloody avatar please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get stuffed lol

espanaThreads: 39 Posts: 2,200 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Edited by: espana Mar 20, 09, 20:49 #24
ukpolska: ukpolska what is going to do your boy without dady "ron dennis"? may be kovalainen has a chance to be equal this year :)

ukpolskaThreads: 51 Posts: 2,159 Joined: Oct 23, 06 MEMBER ♂	Mar 21, 09, 21:17 #25
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peterwegThreads: 30 Posts: 1,445 Joined: Feb 16, 07 ♂	Mar 23, 09, 16:51 #26
Well, the joke continues. The new system has been dumped because its illegal (needs unanimous support from the teams for such a last minute change). As for the effect on last years result - impossible to say because drivers race to win the world championship with points system in mind. If the system had no effect on racing strategy they wouldn't have tried to introduce a new system would they??

espanaThreads: 39 Posts: 2,200 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Edited by: espana Mar 26, 09, 19:28 #27

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07 ♂	Mar 26, 09, 19:30 #28
Have they banned Ross's suppressor yet? Those new rear wings look cool. I wonder if you can buy one for an Audi roadcar.

espanaThreads: 39 Posts: 2,200 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Edited by: espana Mar 26, 09, 19:36 #29
szarlotka: szarlotka no at the moment , i think this is good for the sport , J button is a true champion ( not like the fake of hamilton ) the show start tomorrow !!!

szarlotkaThreads: 14 Posts: 3,340 Joined: Feb 20, 07 ♂	Mar 26, 09, 19:38 #30
espana: i think this is good for the sport innovation is always good I think. I know how much some of you guys enjoy F1 so I'll wish you all a good season's entertainment. I actually think this year should be the most competitive and open one for ages.

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