Can Poland win euro 2012?

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Oct 29, 10, 16:31 #1

Was this year a sign of things to come for the polish team or can Smuda pull a rabbit out of his hat? Despite his shocking record thus far, I still think he is taking the right steps, like trying to recruit foreign talent like Sebastian Boenisch for example. There are also rumours of Roberto Aquafresca thinking of playing for the team. With some star players to build the team around and some more experience we could be the dark horse of the tournament.

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	Edited by: pgtx Oct 29, 10, 16:35 #2
Polonia1: Can Poland win euro 2012? are you insane? we're gonna just be there to smile and "look good"...

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Oct 29, 10, 16:42 #3
Polonia1: Can Poland win euro 2012? Wait, are you threatening the other teams? It's only football, no violence is needed!

Polonia1Threads: 6 Posts: 90 Joined: Oct 21, 10 ♂	Oct 29, 10, 16:43 #4
pgtx: are you insane? we're gonna just be there to smile and "look good"... Well you never know, didn't Greece win it a couple of years back.....and I do think there is some promise in the team

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Oct 29, 10, 16:52 #5
Polonia1: Well you never know, didn't Greece win it a couple of years back.....and I do think there is some promise in the team Recent friendlies have been mixed. 0-6 Spain was harsh, 0-3 Cameroon, tying USA (in the US!), and recently tying Ecuador (Poland came close to a win). In November they'll be playing the Ivory Coast, looking forward to that game to see if they really are improving :)

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Edited by: Polonia1 Oct 29, 10, 17:03 #6

convex:

looking forward to that game to see if they really are improving :)

I think calling the the results "mixed" is a bitter of an overstatement. Whatever Smuda has to offer he better show it soon as many ppl are getting weary of these poor performances. Having said that, its early days and from what he says about the brand football he wants to play and the players he wants to recruit i think his on the right track. However right now its all talk no action

A JThreads: 19 Posts: 4,639 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Oct 29, 10, 17:29 #7
Polonia1: Can Poland win euro 2012? You people should really listen to Obama every now and then. I mean, if you can't convince yourselves, then how could you ever hope to convince us? (I guess someone will need to believe in it.) ;)

spierettiThreads: 5 Posts: 177 Joined: Sep 25, 08 ♂	Oct 30, 10, 11:02 #8
First thing Smuda needs to sort out is the defence. It's not just the amount of goals Poland are conceding, it's also the manner of them. Poland are gifting soft goals away and unless that is sorted out they won't win a thing.

espanaThreads: 40 Posts: 2,233 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 10, 11:25 #9
Polonia1: Can Poland win euro 2012? no , you only are playing the euro because they are the host country. just remember the last time you played with spain. spain 6 poland 0

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Oct 30, 10, 23:15 #10

Win? Quite incredibly. With current players it is remotely possible only a'la Greece championship style. Considering the fact that Greeks simply murdered football, I wouldn't want that... Besides final is in Kiev anyway.. So if by any chance Polish team will get into semi-finals that would fine by me.

Of course there is always a tiny possibility that in next year a few megastars will emerge in Polish league and wipe out everyone in 2012 ;-)

PolsonThreads: 15 Posts: 2,812 Joined: May 9, 07 ♂	Oct 30, 10, 23:24 #11
espana: just remember the last time you played with spain. It's doesn't mean anything. Well, yes it does. It shows that the Polish team is under construction, there's a lot left to do but it can only get better. I dare hope... Spain lost to Argentina recently (4-1), it doesn't mean your team suck ;) Time will tell.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Edited by: PennBoy Oct 30, 10, 23:35 #12
Polonia1: Can Poland win euro 2012? Maybe if Kazimierz Górski comes out of the grave.

grubasThreads: 20 Posts: 1,452 Joined: Feb 1, 10 ♂	Oct 30, 10, 23:39 #13
Poland WILL WIN Euro 2012.

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Oct 30, 10, 23:42 #14

In general, USA & Japan are the teams to watch.

USA, for the sheer wealth of athletic talent available - plus of course the fact that they are actually playing and learning the game these days ; )

And Japan because given time, the bloody Japanese will perfect almost anything!

Ireland of course just need a few more up and coming English players who own an Irish red setter or something and have some beef with the England selectors and will declare for Ireland.

guesswhoThreads: 23 Posts: 3,326 Joined: Mar 17, 10 ♀	Oct 30, 10, 23:45 #15
grubas: Poland WILL WIN Euro 2012. No, Serbia will win it. Crow will tell you ;-)

espanaThreads: 40 Posts: 2,233 Joined: Feb 28, 07 ♂	Oct 31, 10, 18:29 #16
Polson: Spain lost to Argentina recently (4-1), it doesn't mean your team suck ;) 6 players who usually play in the first team were out , plus the travel to another continent. what is your excuse for the 6-0 ...did you play with toilet cleaners and not footballers?

Pinching PeteThreads: 1 Posts: 1,111 Joined: Feb 23, 08 ♂	Oct 31, 10, 18:34 #17
Teffle: USA, for the sheer wealth of athletic talent available - plus of course the fact that they are actually playing and learning the game these days ; ) .. that's why we got beat by Ghana ;-\

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Edited by: Bratwurst Boy Oct 31, 10, 18:49 #18

Teffle:

In general, USA & Japan are the teams to watch.

USA, for the sheer wealth of athletic talent available - plus of course the fact that they are actually playing and learning the game these days ; )

And Japan because given time, the bloody Japanese will perfect almost anything!

I agree fully, it's only a matter of time with the US and at least in Japan soccer is already biiiiiig.
The Bundesliga has it's own japanese player already and here the people love him!
They are smaller than average but they have the discipline and determination what made the Germans so successful. Their big disadvantage is that they don't have the competition we in Europe have...you need to go against the best regularly when you want to grow, not once every 4 years.

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Oct 31, 10, 19:35 #19

Bratwurst Boy:

I agree fully, it's only a matter of time with the US

I dunno about that, i remember when we had the world cup here in the States in 1994, people we're enthusiastic and proud that they were held here but aside from girls not much male attention, American men think it's kinda girly kicking with legs, not using your hands in a sport. Plus Americans are proud of their sports, baseball and football.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Oct 31, 10, 19:39 #20
PennBoy: I dunno about that, i remember when we had the world cup here in the States in 1994, people we're enthusiastic and proud that they were held here Heh, a good three quarters of the country had no idea that the world cup was going on :) Anyway, the demographics in the states are changing. Mesicans don't play American football you know :)

Pinching PeteThreads: 1 Posts: 1,111 Joined: Feb 23, 08 ♂	Oct 31, 10, 19:40 #21
PennBoy: Plus Americans are proud of their sports, baseball and football. Yeah but soccer is big in LA, NYC, Chicago.. Texas, St. Louis. It's not exactly inconsequential but yes it will never be big here. Anyway, can't wait for Euro 2010. It's the best.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Edited by: PennBoy Oct 31, 10, 19:45 #22
convex: Anyway, the demographics in the states are changing. Mesicans don't play American football you know :) I know most had no idea they were going on, i meant the ones who did didn't care, the men mostly. Me and my Polish buddies play football(soccer) sometimes with Mexicans in the summertime, sometimes it gets rough when Poles try to use their bigger size to push them out the way lol.

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,389 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Oct 31, 10, 19:57 #23
Can Poland win euro 2012? Answer- NO

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Oct 31, 10, 20:00 #24
warszawski: Can Poland win euro 2012? Answer- NO Well, theoretically the answer should be YES, as the rules of the tournament are such that every competing team can win it (even if that probability, in case of some teams, is very low.) Realistically, of course, the answer is NO.

Pinching PeteThreads: 1 Posts: 1,111 Joined: Feb 23, 08 ♂	Oct 31, 10, 20:21 #25
warszawski: Can Poland win euro 2012? Answer- NO <shrugs> What the hell? Greece won it once.

convexThreads: 46 Posts: 7,185 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Oct 31, 10, 20:25 #26
Torq: Realistically, of course, the answer is NO. And we'll either drink to success or sorrow!

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Torq Oct 31, 10, 20:33 #27
convex: And we'll either drink to success or sorrow! Of course we will! If Poland manages to avoid complete and utter embarassment, I'll be happy :) however, avoiding embarassment would require winning at least one game, which may be difficult if San Marino fails to qualify

warszawskiThreads: 60 Posts: 2,389 Joined: May 21, 10 ♂	Oct 31, 10, 20:36 #28
Torq: Realistically, of course, the answer is NO. Polish business will win for the duration of the tournament. 1 out of 2 is still 50%.

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Oct 31, 10, 20:37 #29

Torq:

Of course we will! If Poland manages to avoid complete and utter embarassment, I'll be happy :)

We'll call "embarrassment" sorrow, and drink.

Torq:

*however, avoiding embarassment would require winning at least one game, which may
be difficult if San Marino fails to qualify*

Ah, the difference between an optimist and a realist :)

I will send you a bottle of spirits from wherever I'm at for every game that Poland wins in Euro2012. On the flipside, I'd be expecting a bottle of you know what for every game that Poland, ahem, doesn't win.... A full bottle too!

TorqThreads: 65 Posts: 4,024 Joined: Apr 10, 09 MEMBER ♂	Oct 31, 10, 20:56 #30
convex: I will send you a bottle of spirits from wherever I'm at for every game that Poland wins in Euro2012. On the flipside, I'd be expecting a bottle of you know what for every game that Poland, ahem, doesn't win.... A full bottle too! So, basically, you're telling me to send you three bottles of chokeberry vodka in June 2012. No problem.

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