Tusk targets hooligans after Cup final riot

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	Edited by: PennBoy May 5, 11, 00:45 #1
(Reuters) - Polish teams could play with empty stadiums as part of a crackdown on hooliganism, Prime Minister Donald Tusk said on Wednesday, a day after violent scenes at the Polish Cup final dealt another blow to the Euro 2012 co-hosts' image. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1383654/Polands-role -Euro-2012-hosts-threat-following-mass-brawl-cup-game.html?ito=feeds-n ewsxml

FUZZYWICKETSThreads: 12 Posts: 1,999 Joined: Nov 3, 09 ♂	May 5, 11, 00:49 #2
Shotguns with beanbag loads. Hurts like hell, they all go home. Time to step it up.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	May 5, 11, 00:53 #3
Saw some film of Russian riot police taking on some football thugs... Very impressive... the thugs wanted some violence..they got it...ten seconds later they were all all the ground whimpering.. thats the way to do it....

rybnikThreads: 29 Posts: 1,234 Joined: Jan 16, 11 ♂	May 5, 11, 00:56 #4
wildrover: Saw some film of Russian riot police taking on some football thugs... Very impressive... the thugs wanted some violence..they got it...ten seconds later they were all all the ground whimpering.. thats the way to do it.... Russians don't play!

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	May 5, 11, 00:59 #5
wildrover: Saw some film of Russian riot police taking on some football thugs... Very impressive... rybnik: Russians don't play! Yea but that's Russia they don't really have a democracy and the government doesn't care too much about human rights. In Poland and other parts of Europe that would be considered too brutal.

rybnikThreads: 29 Posts: 1,234 Joined: Jan 16, 11 ♂	May 5, 11, 01:04 #6
I've got to ask this. What is the cause(s) for all this violence? Is it un-employement? drugs? booze? boredom? all of the above?.........Are there examples of similar sports-venue destruction elsewhere in the world? the States? It's so vulgar and senseless :(

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	May 5, 11, 01:06 #7
rybnik: I've got to ask this. What is the cause(s) for all this violence? Is it un-employement? drugs? booze? boredom? all of the above?.........Are there examples of similar sports-venue destruction elsewhere in the world? the States? testosterone...

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,188 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	May 5, 11, 01:12 #8
PennBoy: Yea but that's Russia they don't really have a democracy and the government doesn't care too much about human rights. In Poland and other parts of Europe that would be considered too brutal. Who cares about the human rights of mindless thugs who want violence... Kick the crap out of them . and keep on doing it untill they take up another hobby...

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	May 5, 11, 01:14 #9
If this is true (and it most probably is), Poland has got a seriously uphill struggle against hooliganism: On Wednesday, the head of the police team responsible for fighting stadium hooliganism was suspended for writing to football authorities to ask them to issue a ticket to a man who is under a stadium ban and is known to have been violent. Source.

CrowThreads: 367 Posts: 7,316 Joined: Feb 14, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	May 5, 11, 01:22 #10
Down with Tusk!

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	May 5, 11, 01:28 #11
Harry: If this is true (and it most probably is), Poland has got a seriously uphill struggle against hooliganism: What's very interesting in Poland is just how much influence the supporters clubs have.

KoalaThreads: 1 Posts: 433 Joined: May 4, 11 ♂	May 5, 11, 01:32 #12
I love those angry speeches of Tusk when he suddenly declares will to fight issues that have been known for years.

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	May 5, 11, 01:32 #13
wildrover: Who cares about the human rights of mindless thugs who want violence... Kick the crap out of them You know what would happen if a policeman shot a hooligan in the eye with those rubber bullets and beanbags and the guy lost an eye, or if they beat him half to death? There would be a city wide riot, like in Slupsk some years back after a cop killed a kid.

antheadsThreads: 13 Posts: 306 Joined: Jan 21, 11 ♂	May 5, 11, 01:39 #14
poland needs a good riot. it would release a few tensions that have been building up. the pis crew could charge the police with a giant cross..

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,968 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	May 5, 11, 01:43 #15
wildrover: Very impressive... the thugs wanted some violence..they got it...ten seconds later they were all all the ground whimpering.. thats the way to do it.... Saw something similar when I went to see Sparta Prauge play a few years ago in Prague - they dont mess about over there - battons at the ready!!!! Not so nice when you're only 20 yards away from it though....

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	May 5, 11, 01:44 #16
Koala: he suddenly declares will to fight issues that have been known for years. he does something or he doesn't - people will always complain....

antheadsThreads: 13 Posts: 306 Joined: Jan 21, 11 ♂	May 5, 11, 01:48 #17
Amathyst come on! the czech police are teddy bears compared to the polska policja

PennBoyThreads: 157 Posts: 3,443 Joined: Dec 7, 08 ♂	May 5, 11, 02:02 #18
antheads: czech police are teddy bears That's their nature, i've never seen Czechs fight even when they had a reason to. Now if Poles drink it's almost a miracle if there isn't a fist fight.

HavokThreads: 14 Posts: 1,508 Joined: Mar 12, 10 MEMBER ♂	Edited by: Havok May 5, 11, 02:20 #19
This is shameful, I don't know what else to say Penn. Nothing has changed over there. I went to a lot of games here and I've never seen anyone behave like this.

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	May 5, 11, 02:30 #20
Havok: I went to a lot of games here and I've never seen anyone behave like this. yes, i went to many games over here... they had to wake me up when it ended... :)

SebastianThreads: 8 Posts: 129 Joined: Feb 16, 10 ♂	May 5, 11, 02:30 #21
I have an idea, put every hooligan in prison for 3 years. Its ******* embarrassing, and I hope this does not happen in 2012. Time to get tougher on those hooligan cunts

HavokThreads: 14 Posts: 1,508 Joined: Mar 12, 10 MEMBER ♂	May 5, 11, 02:34 #22
pgtx: yes, i went to many games over here... they had to wake me up when it ended... :) It's ok, you're a girl :)

KoalaThreads: 1 Posts: 433 Joined: May 4, 11 ♂	Edited by: Koala May 5, 11, 02:37 #23
pgtx: he does something or he doesn't - people will always complain.... Haha, that's true. However, that's an issue that's been known for years, should have been resolved years ago and the current government has done nothing in that regard for over 3 years. Spontaneous angry speeches are hillarious in this context. It's not like they've been particularly busy, anyway.

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May 5, 11, 02:42 #24

Sebastian:

I have an idea, put every hooligan in prison for 3 years. Its ******* embarrassing, and I hope this does not happen in 2012. Time to get tougher on those hooligan cunts

The thing is they have their ustawki arranged fights in woods or by some road why destroy a stadium? Probably because they know the whole country is watching on tv and they wanna be famous.

pgtx:

yes, i went to many games over here... they had to wake me up when it ended... :)

Yea it's nothing like football in Europe.

pgtxThreads: 49 Posts: 6,327 Joined: Feb 14, 09 MEMBER ♀	May 5, 11, 02:54 #25
Havok: It's ok, you're a girl :) i actually like football (you know, the real one, not American football)... :) PennBoy: Yea it's nothing like football in Europe. i like watching here basketball and hockey... the rest so too much... :)

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May 5, 11, 03:09 #26

As someone who was at the game, i was most impressed with the fan protest at the start of the game, the "riot" was pretty tame compared to some i've seen at polish grounds, The atmosphere was fantastic
and the displays were fantastic to see, The rioters were only a tiny minority, The vast majority of fans behaved well and sang their hearts out.

There is a way to solve the "hooligan" problem, simply take the ustawka inside the stadium, make it half time entertainment. I'd happily pay 10plz extra for a 100v100 battle royale,

GrzegorzK	May 5, 11, 03:28 #27
What was the riot for?

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May 5, 11, 03:31 #28

pgtx:

i like watching here basketball and hockey... the rest so too much... :)

For me basketball is a black sport, football (European) and hockey i like. And baseball is just gay.

Oldyoungloon:

simply take the ustawka inside the stadium, make it half time entertainment.

HAHA oh yea that would be lovely, have wives and kids look at ppl beating each other up and being taken away on a stretcher, setting a good example for the youngsters.

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May 5, 11, 09:04 #29

PennBoy:

The thing is they have their ustawki arranged fights in woods or by some road why destroy a stadium? Probably because they know the whole country is watching on tv and they wanna be famous.

I think it's more open defiance at the authorities - the trashing of stadiums has become a lot more popular ever since the Government started moving against them.

Only solution is to close the stadiums until they can behave. Simple as that.

n.	May 5, 11, 09:35 #30
GrzegorzK: What was the riot for? Are you Polish?

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