Quoting: tornado2007
you get a lot more taken from us or we give more than we give back
You are ignoring the cost of NOT being a member in trading with the EU.
Then, money is paid to the EU without getting to make any decisions in return.
Quoting: tornado2007
As for European relations, you don't need to go to bed with other countries to be friends or have solidarity, do you
What would happen if the EU fell apart, say, starting with the UK?
Quoting: tornado2007
we can have an agreement with France if we like, we can have an agreement with Spain if we like or any other country
How many agreements would have to be made?
What would be the cost?
The whole of the EU, or just certain countries?
Many people would lose out on the trade benefits of selective trade agreements.
Quoting: tornado2007
do we need the busy bodies in Brussels telling one of the most economically and politically powerful nations in Europe what to do
Because the UK is part of the telling other people what to do process.
The British press just doesn't like to mention any of this. It doesn't sell rags.
Quoting: tornado2007
don't want to train people who are going to leave the country
We train many British citizens to make new lives for themselves all around the world already.
Quoting: Nigel
We're also best buddies with uncle Sam
There are many things we cannot trade with the US for practical reasons.
They have no real ties to us and trade as and when it suits them.
The EU can be no match for such trade partnerships.
Quoting: Nigel
put dollars in my pocket not euros
Seen where the dollar's been going? No.