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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  Nov 20, 06, 10:11  #91

Quoting: Amathyst, Post #74
Im English and never had warm beer.


Me too. I mean I also didn't receive a warm beer in the UK, not that I'm English.

Quoting: i_love_detroit, Post #66
You've obviously been to differnt high-school than I. In my high school there was strong pressure not to study from some other students.


LO in Opalenica. Great times. No pressure at all. All were good people. Well almost all.

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BubbaWoo
  Nov 20, 06, 10:16  #92

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #91
I also didn't receive a warm beer in the UK



a pint of nice cold ice cold larger shouldnt be served at the same temp as a pint of real ale... which isnt exactly served warm... but isnt exactly served ice cold either... especially when sitting in front of an open fire on a chilly winter's day...

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Arien
  Nov 20, 06, 10:36  #93

Quoting: iwona, Post #89
I think that nowadays more and more people buy coffe-machines.


bless.

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lef
  Nov 20, 06, 17:12  #94

Quoting: Maati, Post #85
I think that women really understand these days, that it is like a suicide not to work at all outside of your home/ family. What happens if your husband is dead or become unemployed, even if your family is doing very well now... And what about retirement compensation for women who never worked in their lives?



Sorry maati, could you explain what you mean?

I agree that the polish "babcia" now plays a more low key role than before, "babcia" is better remember as the one handing out sweets and money for a ice cream

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krysia
  Nov 20, 06, 22:10  #95

Ok.This one is really, really strange. But it's all over Europe, not only in Poland. When writing a date down, they put the day of the month first then the month.
Or the number 7 gets crossed in the middle.
Or when writing a name, they put last name first. In US you put your first name first.
A week starts from Monday, in US from a Sunday

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lef
  Nov 20, 06, 22:16  #96

Quoting: krysia, Post #95
Or the number 7 gets crossed in the middle.


yeah, when you see a seven crossed, you say to yourself they must be polish!

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lef
  Nov 20, 06, 22:18  #97

Polish men are generally very polite and well mannered, most still maintain the traditon of kissing the hand when greeting a female

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Janf [Guest]
  Nov 21, 06, 04:03  #98

Sorry not read all the posts in here so might be repeating.
The things that gets me most is the absolute obsession with getting as much change as possible out of your pocket and into the tills. If something costs 1.99 zloty the person at the till will ask if you have the correct change then "do you have the 99 zloty " and then even "do you have the 9 zloty"
Sometimes it is just to the point of completely illogical extremes. It also just adds that little bit longer to a queue formed by 10 people with 2 items each..

This send me crazy and I find myself deliberately giving large notes just to see the panic caused....

I feel I am close to needing therapy on this

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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  Nov 21, 06, 05:10  #99

Quoting: lef, Post #97
most still maintain the traditon of kissing the hand when greeting a female


This custom generally stop being proceed some time ago. It's only present among elderly people now. Very rarely by people in their 40's and 50's.

Quoting: Janf, Post #98
The things that gets me most is the absolute obsession with getting as much change as possible out of your pocket and into the tills. If something costs 1.99 zloty the person at the till will ask if you have the correct change then "do you have the 99 zloty " and then even "do you have the 9 zloty"


Never saw anything strange in it until I went shopping in the UK. For a moment I even thought to offer the cashier "końcówka" but I'm glad I didn't. I can only see the surprised look on his face with the eyes of my imagination.

Yeah, it can really be annoying.

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Maati
  Nov 21, 06, 05:10  #100

"Sorry maati, could you explain what you mean?"

no work=no money=no food for your kids...

communists times are over...

nothing we get as a gift "from the state" anymore.

we have a wild capitalism here right now.

pseudocapitalism.

being a "matka-polka" means that:
a. a woman is unemployed without chances of getting any job...

b. her husband is a president of a company and she does not have to work and to worry about the money...

c. if he's not the boss, both of them are in the UK having 2 s*** jobs while grandparents are taking care of their kids here.

d. money is sent through western union.

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Maati
  Nov 21, 06, 05:13  #101

and i really know what i'm talikng about

i have 2 daughters

my parents are quite young.

they work average 10-12 hrs a day in the hospital .

they will be retired in about 15 yrs. when my daughers are nearly in their 20-es.

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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  Nov 21, 06, 06:28  #102

Quoting: Maati, Post #85
I live in PL , I am a mother myself and I must admit that I never met "matka polka" in my life. I thought they died out just like dinosaurs...


My mother couldn’t afford not to work when I was little, because it would be very difficult for us to get along. I never had any "Lego", "G I Joe's", "Transformers" and other stuff like that, but I also never run hungry nor never had any problems with lack of clothes, etc....

My mother is a working woman but at the same time a typical "matka polka". She didn't had the opportunity to have a higher education, nor never had time to develop her own hobby. She contributed her whole life to the family. She would skip buying anything for herself just that her children could go with the class for some kind of a trip, etc...

I must confess that I'm a very lazy person when it comes to doing some house work, but when I saw that woman coming back from work and immediately starting cleaning the house, washing the dishes, etc it really made my heart bleed. These days TV is promoting more self-centered life style, where number one priority is "I" rather than "you". My "matka Polka" showed me that giving more to your family and friends can also be very satisfying.

Some say that people search partners that have very similar traits to their parents. Actually I never thought about it until recently when I found out that my girlfriend aside that she is very intelligent, independent, and beautiful woman also has the best "matka Polska" characteristics. Those two women really motivate me to be a better person, and I wouldn’t want the “matka Polka” stereotype to vanish entirely. There is a side of it worth keeping.

PS: And I agree with iwona that they still exist here, predominantly among the poorer and less educated part of our society.

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miranda
  Nov 21, 06, 09:50  #103

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #102
Those two women really motivate me to be a better person, and I wouldn’t want the “matka Polka” stereotype to vanish entirely. There is a side of it worth keeping.

I have the same experiance.
Matyjasz - you make people cry.

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Matyjasz
  Nov 21, 06, 10:21  #104

I know... I'm not even trying to read this post again as my eyes water , and boys shouldn't cry!

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miranda
  Nov 21, 06, 10:23  #105

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #104

I know... I'm not even trying to read this post again as my eyes water , and boys shouldn't cry!



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VladG2 [Guest]
  Nov 21, 06, 10:53  #106

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #102
My mother is a working woman but at the same time a typical "matka polka". She didn't had the opportunity to have a higher education, nor never had time to develop her own hobby. She contributed her whole life to the family. She would skip buying anything for herself just that her children could go with the class for some kind of a trip, etc...


Matyjasz,

I really like what you wrote about your mom! It's really touching!

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Matyjasz
  Nov 21, 06, 11:06  #107

Glad you enjoyed it VladG2... It came out a little bit to melodramatic… I didn't want to make it sound that way, but "alea iacta est"..

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VladG2 [Guest]
  Nov 21, 06, 13:44  #108

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #107
Glad you enjoyed it VladG2... It came out a little bit to melodramatic… I didn't want to make it sound that way, but "alea iacta est"..


reminded my mom, too

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Amathyst
  Nov 21, 06, 13:49  #109

Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #102
Some say that people search partners that have very similar traits to their parents. Actually I never thought about it until recently when I found out that my girlfriend aside that she is very intelligent, independent, and beautiful woman also has the best "matka Polska" characteristics. Those two women really motivate me to be a better person, and I wouldn’t want the “matka Polka” stereotype to vanish entirely. There is a side of it worth keeping.



Quoting: Matyjasz, Post #102
My mother is a working woman but at the same time a typical "matka polka". She didn't had the opportunity to have a higher education, nor never had time to develop her own hobby. She contributed her whole life to the family. She would skip buying anything for herself just that her children could go with the class for some kind of a trip, etc...


I must confess that I'm a very lazy person when it comes to doing some house work, but when I saw that woman coming back from work and immediately starting cleaning the house, washing the dishes, etc it really made my heart bleed. These days TV is promoting more self-centered life style, where number one priority is "I" rather than "you". My "matka Polka" showed me that giving more to your family and friends can also be very satisfying.


And these are the best statements I have seen on the forum since visiting....The first because I look for someone that is hard working (my father and my mother) and look for someone that is thoughtful and funny (my mother) and someone who I feel safe with (my father) and someone I could spend the rest of my life with (my parents)


The second statement because my mum always worked and my grandmother looked after us, simply because they couldnt aford not to have one out of work, we didnt do without toys, but I understand that things were a lot more difficult in Poland...

And the third because, doing things for friends just because ....is what life is about...no pay back, you do it just because they are your friends...and as David Brent said there is no I in team....

Quoting: krysia, Post #95
put the day of the month first then the month


but it makes sence to put the day, then the month and then the year...why put the month before the day.....

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Amathyst
  Nov 21, 06, 13:55  #110

I forgot to mention also about my parent they have the driest sence of humour you will ever come across, thats what I also look for

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Maati
  Nov 22, 06, 03:12  #111

Matyjasz-I would call your mom a TYPICAL POLISH MOTHER not Matka Polka.
Matka Polka is like a dumb "kura domowa" to me. You know what I mean?
And education has nothing to do with it.
My grandma is not well educated, because of the war etc. and she is one of the most intelligent people I met in my life...

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miranda
  Nov 22, 06, 06:59  #112

Quoting: Maati, Post #111
My grandma is not well educated, because of the war etc. and she is one of the most intelligent people I met in my life...

mine was like that too -experiance baby, experiance !!!!!

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iwona
  Nov 22, 06, 07:49  #113

Maybe I used wrong expression in the first place.... when I started it.

My mum also worked ( she had to ) was independedent and at the same time was the best mum on the world.

I meant about these women who don't have much of their all life, interest, who devot themselves too much for children and don't let them to grow up as they always want to look after them, always help financially.... Maybe better expression would be "kwoki"

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FISZ
  Nov 22, 06, 08:30  #114

I've forgotten something. I find it strange that I couldn't find a clothes dryer anywhere. So much for the last min cleaning and drying.

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iwona
  Nov 22, 06, 14:42  #115

they are not very popular in Poland. I don't know why? Mayge because of the cost of electricity?

My cousin who lives in USA always moan about it in Poland.
her dryer is great you don't have to iron clothes.

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FISZ
  Nov 22, 06, 14:49  #116

Yeah...they come in very handy at times. I hear that not may other countries in Europe use them.

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iwona
  Nov 22, 06, 14:57  #117

no, maybe it is just culture and....I suppose room for it.

In USA houses are in general bigger with basements so there is more room for dryer.

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krysia
  Nov 22, 06, 17:45  #118

The rings get me confused.
OK. when engaged in Poland, the ring is on left hand on the woman. But when she marries it gets moved to the right hand?
And do guys wear their wedding band on the right hand?
is that correct? Do all Polish people follow that rule?
In the US everything is on the left hand.

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Wroclaw
  Nov 22, 06, 17:49  #119

Right hand for wedding rings. Men and women

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krysia
  Nov 22, 06, 17:55  #120

So, when a married Polish woman comes to America, guys will think she's single, because she doesn't have a ring on her left hand.
Confusing!

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