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Bachelors in Civil / Mechanical Engineering Degree in Poland


polcol1234
28 Aug 2015 #31
Merged: Civil Engineering Degrees in Poland

Warsaw University of Technology VS Cracow University of Technology: How good is the Civil engineering degrees in poland and which school has a better department for english program.?

Merged: Civil Engineering Degrees Poland

Is the Civil Engineering Degrees in Poland of high quality and is it practical or mostly theory ?
lardermice
2 Oct 2015 #32
you are very naive in forgetting that outside of the universities that Poland is an inherently rasicst society and will not be welcoming nor safe for you. Nor does Poland have any reputation in engineering
Dougpol1 31 | 2,640
2 Oct 2015 #33
Nor does Poland have any reputation in engineering

Don't be silly. Polish engineers are sought after all over the world and in communist times Polish sedimentologists practically ran Iraq's oil exploration projects. Stop spouting nonsense.
DominicB - | 2,707
2 Oct 2015 #34
Polish engineering students regularly complain about these things:

1) instruction is long on (often antiquated) theory and very short on practical work, and what little there is is severely underfunded and antiquated;

2) students receive very little attention, guidance and direction- it's nothing like engineering school in the US, for example;

3) there are very few partnerships with business and industry, so cash is limited, and it is difficult to build up a network of useful contacts; and

4) there is precious little R&D money in the country, so there is a shortage of interesting projects to work on;

5) job prospects and wages are very low; and

6) it is difficult to get degrees recognized abroad, ESPECIALLY for civil engineers.

If you are going to study civil engineering, then study it at a good engineering school in the US, the UK, German, Switzerland, Sweden or the Netherlands (the last has LOTS of extremely innovative, huge scale civil engineering projects for a tiny country).

Also, if you are going to study engineering, study petroleum or geological engineering. They are a lot more profitable than civil engineering, and recession-proof to boot. Civil engineers took a beating during the financial crisis.

Otherwise, you are probably no better off studying civil engineering in Poland than in your own country.

Foreign students complain about the following:

1) practically no chance of finding part-time work to finance studies;

2) low quality of courses taught in English;

3) practically no chance of finding work in Poland after studies;

4) difficulty in getting degrees recognized, as above.

As for racism, it is no worse than in other European countries, and maybe even better as far as overt racism is concerned. By far the most common form of "racism" you will meet with is "benign neglect". Nobody will bother you, but you may be ignored and not included in the lives of your fellow students. You won't be EXcluded, but you won't be INcluded, either, unless you are assertive and a bit aggressive about making friends and make the first move. If you are shy, Poland is an awful place to be a foreign student.

Polish engineers are sought after all over the world

That's pretty much a nationalistic myth propagated during communist times that persists. Polish engineers are no more "sought after" than engineers from, say, India, and far less so than engineers from advanced Western countries.
Dougpol1 31 | 2,640
2 Oct 2015 #35
That's pretty much a nationalistic myth propagated during communist times that persists.

Very true. All of what you say. It is ridiculous that industry doesn't get more involved, or most authorities do not allow students (at school level too) to conduct their own experiments in practical lessons.

Cost of equipment, chemicals and reagents are often cited but surely it is because of the relics of communism and the nanny state?

In the meantime, the lecturer often has to demonstrate and there is little kinesthetic learning.
DominicB - | 2,707
2 Oct 2015 #36
Cost of equipment, chemicals and reagents are often cited but surely it is because of the relics of communism and the nanny state?

It always comes down to money, especially, in a field like engineering, R&D spending. The "relics of communism and the nanny state" is another myth that's frequently trotted out, usually by nationalistic conservatives. True fifteen years ago, but it has been twenty six years since the transformation, and a lot has happened since. Sure, there are still some lasting effects of communist times, but not of the sort you seem to think, nor to the extent. Brain drain is by far a bigger problem, and will remain so for a long time.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
3 Oct 2015 #37
Very true. All of what you say. It is ridiculous that industry doesn't get more involved, or most authorities do not allow students (at school level too) to conduct their own experiments in practical lessons.

Universities do - some more than others, as it depends very much on the faculty. UAM's science departments are modern and decent with well equipped labs for instance, but their facilities for humanities students are...pathetic.

Having said that, cooperation with industry is starting to develop. I've seen some very nice programmes involving Samsung, Intel and others and schools - the only problem is that schools aren't really clued up on how to navigate corporate ******** that inevitably accompanies such programmes.

Cost of equipment, chemicals and reagents are often cited but surely it is because of the relics of communism and the nanny state?

A lot of it is down to the management of the faculty. The problem all lies with university autonomy - a poorly connected Dean who worries more about his reelection chances than his faculty will do the bare minimum to survive. A good one who genuinely cares about students will get a lot more for them. There's no excuses - the EU puts up astonishing amounts of cash for equipment and facilities, so it's just a matter of being organised.
Dougpol1 31 | 2,640
3 Oct 2015 #38
relics of communism and the nanny state" is another myth

I really meant that the old traditional method of tables in rows are still employed in a lot of secondary schools, and not the groups of students around table A. table B and so forth........and that "children musn't do experimentation because there may be accidents" and "the teacher would lose their authority and the need to actually teach/demonstrate."
Priya
2 Jul 2017 #39
Which would be best course to study master in Poland ? So that i can get a job there


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