Who suffered more, victims of Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot, or victims

lets leave this part of your post ...



after communism Polish people realized what is the offical history version in the west ...

Yup! That is that way for over 60 years now and neither you or Celinski can change that....

I think some Polish initiatives (movies, presentations, museums) helped in promotion of our version.

Think Lukasz THINK!

Stalin was their ally! Their most important ally! Without him no victory over Nazi Germany!!! For most of the west Stalin means winning, freedom!!! That's a FACT, not a version!

There will always be different viewpoints...It's Poland duty to remember those victims, the Baltics duty, the Ukrainian duty etc...but never expect an Englishman or an USian or another western to give your victims the same attention.
They fighted after all a Good vs Bad war and how does that look if the Goodies needed another monster, huh?

Please... Leave this to women to cry after the victims of the past. Better fight with the current occupation! :)



Polish duty is first and foremost to remember great victories and the times of glory.

Stalin was a murdering piece of ****. "Soviets" out numbered "Poland" after both countrys attacked, if you recall. Then after "Stalin" needed help because "Germany" was kicking there ***, they used our people. Poland fought with "Soviet to get there country back, not to be taken over by "Stalin". Be real, do you really believe in the end after being betrayed "Poland" had a chance. Make no mistake, we know who our "ALLIES" were and "Russia was not one.




Thats why it's being made in LA as we speak.

You are right about Stalin, however BB write about real politics , something that Poles are apparently unable to understand. Those in the west cared only about the fact that Stalin indirectly saved their asses. Stories from Eastern Europe have little importance from their perspective.

Poles learned nothing, today instead to reform their country they beg for somebody else money and give up independence, disgusting.

you have learned nothing ... the most independent country all over the world is North Korea ...
as to your statement about EU funds ... it was very sarmatian ;)

real politic looks like that Germans build enourmosly big museum about their victims in WWII ...

that is why you political fraction achieved 1% of votes in last elections ;)

cheers

Well that's something seeing how many of us "Polish" ended up here knowing the full story.



Well should we look at 50 years of "Communism" it's not like they were going to put money into it.

Demagogy, how about South Korea or Japan? It would be enough for me.



Respect deserving people earn money, pathetic people beg for money.

what about Bielarus ?

I think victims of Pol Pot suffered more because they had to eat their cut balls before getting shot.

I never heard about such country.

He means Belarussia.I like Belarussia although some girls there are gold diggers.

Ok what about Byelorus ? :) Is it enought for you ?

translation from :

http://ling.pl/

:)

I don't speak Russian, however on English language forum this should not be necessary. :)

Ok Lesser now I leave you with label "We (UPR) have 1% of votes in Poland" ;)

Unfortunately now you are going to see gay parades in Poland ... and we have signed EU constitution ... ;)

and your talk back is funny because you know what I have said :)

see you ;)

Why not Bielapolska?

Hey you "We have 41,5% votes In Poland", you cannot even write correct name of Polish neighbour country :)) Neither homos or bureaucrats help you to obtain this knowledge available for 1% of elites :)



We already have Biała Podlaska.

The most important fact is that I crush you :) with mistakes in gramar and orthography..
As to you being Polish elites :))))

What do you understand by "elites" ? :))

This is something else, a Belarusian could find it disrespectful if a Pole cannot even write correctly the name of his country. You were so desperate to post even a transliteration from Russian, an offensive move to a Belarusian patriot.

The biggest success of PO's spin doctors during elections campaign was to convince 41,5% of people in Poland that they can consider themselves to be part of the "elites" if they vote for this party. I just love to hear intellectual abilities of those lites in Szkło Kontaktowe. :)

Belarus

Lesser do you remember discussions on PF before elections. As I remember "commies" and "corruption" were main issues.

Where are those commies ;) as I see PO fights against corruption ...

(old memebrs of PF remember this situation)

I think artical like this show all sides looking at past mistakes.

Dr Andrzej Sławiński,
Policy of the United States of America towards the Soviet Union 1941-1945 and its Consequences for Poland

http://www.polishresistance-ak.org/PR_WWII_texts_En/23_Article_En.rtf

Carol

Half of These Holocaust Victims Were Non-Jewish.



http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/poland.htm

Soviet Union plays a part.

Latvian documentary causes controversy
10.04.08 03:51

Many historians acknowledge the sacrifices the Soviet Union made to defeat Nazi Germany in the Second World War. However, a film released in Latvia is suggesting that the Soviet Union helped Nazi Germany instigate the horrors of the holocaust. The move has been condemned by many as an attempt to rewrite history. ( RT )

http://news.trendaz.com/index.shtml?show=news&newsid=1172945&lang=EN

The Great Cover-Up
By Christopher Orlet
Published 4/10/2008 12:07:04 AM
Andrzej Wajda's new film Katyn opens with an archetypal image from World War II in Poland. Hundreds of Polish refugees are crossing a bridge over the River Vistula. Behind them can be heard the guns of the advancing German Wehrmacht. On the other side the Red Army approaches. The better off Poles decide to take their chances with the Nazis, while the Jews and the proletariat continue toward the advancing Red Army troops. The obvious significance of the scene is that the choice between totalitarian systems is no choice at all.
Dalton Trumbo may lay moldering in the grave, but he would no doubt be glad to hear that to date there is no English-language distributor for Wajda's film, and no plans for its U.S. release.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13032