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Another typical hyper sensitive English pussy who after hearing a little bit truth about his own country is trying to run just like a 1/2 Frenchman. btw. Weren`t the French also ruling over England for some period of time? Well, if yes this might explain some things.



They created the modern English languages for example, and as far as I know they haven`t "went". They stayed after buthering a large part of the original population of your islands they became Christians and they are the direct of your nobles/royals/knights etc.

Hyper sensitive English Pussy? Not bad, not bad, glad to see its easy to get inside your skin. Punch first ask questions later.

I know enough about my history thank you, probably could teach you a thing or two about yours.

I like to think of myself as an improved species . Bit of French, German and Scandinavian, the best bits of course.

Please don't go accusing the British language (which I may remind you is the business language, scientific language and world language) as being the only bastard language. Polish didn't even exist until the second millenium BC. Ours (mine as well) is a language of German (- hurts doesn't it?) Italian, French, Latin, Czech and ENGLISH and probably one or two others.

Question - what does buthering mean? Covering them with butter?

I think is was actually butchering. A typo - we all make mistakes.

Mr Cogito,

I think you will find that William the Conqueror was Norman not French.

Also, you will find that King Canute had some Polish heritage. So when you mock the Royalty of England you are mocking, to some extent the kings of Poland.

Were all Polish kings Polish ? I don't think so.

Go check your history.

Sorry forgot.

You should also Google Clementene Sobieski.

I fear not - you do seem to be quite illiterate when it comes to history.



I think that this explaines it all.



No modern European language existed before the second millenium BC, beside Greek and Basque.

But once again you`re only proving that my previous observation about your person was 100% correct. Guess why.



I`m always willing to help those less fortunate people around the world who are slower than the rest of us, so I`m going to anwser your question:

butch·er Pronunciation (bchr)
n.
1.
a. One who slaughters and dresses animals for food or market.
b. One who sells meats.
2. One that kills brutally or indiscriminately.
3. A vendor, especially one on a train or in a theater.
4. One who bungles something.
tr.v. butch·ered, butch·er·ing, butch·ers
1. To slaughter or prepare (animals) for market.
2. To kill brutally or indiscriminately.
3. To botch; bungle: butcher a project; butchered the language

Noun 1. butchering - the business of a butcher

Thank you for proving my point: The English are unable to govern themselves without foraign help, so they need German, French, Scandinavian, Polish. Without foraigners they would fall into anarchy.

bu - cha - I come from the North of England...LOL

Mr Cogito - We have managed to stay on the Map for considerably longer though - we didnt dissapear for 123 years, I really dont want to get into some sensless argument about this but Poland has been invaded more times than i've had hot dinners and lost a great deal of the time, the English have battles (may I add that we are a tiny Island) and done quite well.

Mr cogito,

You failed to answer my question. Come on, admit your failure. It takes a strong man to say 'sorry, I'm wrong'. We will admire you for it.


When you have something valid to say. I'll respond.

Mr Cognito - Mr Gormless more like.

It would be so easy of me to produce evidence for you being a twat. The forum is littered with examples. I can only hope that you don't have any offspring, Lord knows the world can do without further gormless individuals.

I really have no idea what you want to say here, but the point is that without foraign rule the English would fall into anarchy.




Lets see what you have written earlier..





So I`ve googled Clementene Sobieski ...and she`s some grand, grand grand mother of the courrent queen of England.. hmmmm.. I would say that you`re only proving my point.

And were all Polish kings Polish? - no - but most of them had to reside in Kraków, sign a contract and wasn`t even allowed to "wipe their buttom" without the Sejm`s allowence under the threat of inprisonment. Remember Henryk Walezy, who didn`t wanted to sign Pacta Conventa giving our country the control over the French fleet and how he had to flee to France in women clothing. I`m going to say more - since 1386 it wasn`t important who was the king in this country. Jagiello for example had to accept Christianity and had to create an union between Poland and Lithuania, but even then the real power was with the Sejm and Jadwiga.

England on the other hand was an absolutist monarchy for most of its time.

I`ve been just voicing a critical opinion based on what you have written in this topic. If you can not take criticism then that`s your problem.

Mr Cogito,

Now that you have checked I can see that you are learning. The difference between you and the rest of us here is that we all knew the facts, before you started your arguement.

A little less shouting and a little more revision and I might agree on some of your points.

Was Poland not divided from 1772 - 1779 between Prussia, Austria, and Russia, thus elimating Poland as we see it now???

Foreign rule - please explain



Voicing?? you called him an idiot.

Please lets not let this get into a slanging match.

Don't forget arsehole, he called me an arsehole

simon_porter00 - oky dont get excited....simon..

Lets see what simon wrote at the beginning of this "debate":



Now. Perhaps you should - think - a little bit before opening your mouth, or do you think that simon is right - if that`s the case - sorry, but I have no choice - I have to call you with an "i" word.



Yes - and England was overran and ruled by foreign powers how many times 5? 10?



Take the Romans, Normans, Saxons for example.



Yes - I was vocing an adequate description of him.



Another adequate description.

an example of something a little more recent please.

last 200 years would be good



also an example of something a little more recent and a time shall we say when England lost it's language and name!

How about 2006 and the Pakistani/Arab invasion?



2020 - England is being renamed to Western Pakistan?

So, me quoting a Polish History Doctor, working at one of the most prestigious univeristies in Europe started all this off? A doctor of history with 50 years of experience - and you dismiss it and assume you know better?

It was wrong of me to quote that particular sentence. I could have quoted another which says exactly the same thing but with slightly less inflammatory language but the point is valid. You claim to know ALL ABOUT the history of Poland and yet the one inescapable fact - that nearly all self rule in Poland over the last millenia has been messed up by its own people seems to have escaped you. Maybe you would prefer not to know about it - in which case you are ignorant.

And on a further point in which you're wrong is that this debate/thread was started by patriot/non-patriot saying that Germany was taking over poland again! I used the quote in the context that an overall governing body that sets laws over all member EU states is a good thing - for all member states, not just for Poland.

Maybe YOU are the commie. It seems to fit the bill - ignoring history, changing detail to suit your own agenda, refusing to see facts and go blindly along in your life following your own incorrect assumptions.

Your sniping about foriegn rule in England is an argument you'll never win - Poland's case is history is much more tainted then ours.

A final word about the insults - It takes one to know one.

Oh God - and a racist to boot. You are a commie bastard!

Mr Cogito - that's not a very inteligent answer I expected more...tut tut...x

I hardly think those comments make him a commie or a racist, I'd say quite amusing to be honest...and if we dont do something in this country to slow the imigration he's probably right.

Well, it seems to me that now you`re trying to weasel out of the whole situation by bullshitting the people on this board.

So this lecturer of your is suddenly a "Polish History Doctor, with a 50 year experience" - it`s quite a progress that she had made during the last 20 minutes.


But seriously: noone who has a degree in history, or as a matter of fact has read ONE single book concerning Polish history would write such bullshit as you did. And in addition, I really don`t need some foraign arsecholes, who are living here since how long? A couple of weeks? - Lecturing me about the history of my country, pretending to know something they obviously have no idea about.

We have also many so called "Sunday students" in this country who somehow got lost at the university and who know what "higher education" means only from the stories told by their friends.



This quote you`ve used by the way had been used many, many times by the Nazis btw. and this whole idea had been created just after WWI, at the begining of the XIX century when Germany had to give up some of its teritory - this was the main propaganda argument for the Germans to oppose the changes of their eastern borders.

I also somehow don`t get the idea why someone who obviously dosnt know what a "millenium" is and mixes it with the word "century" - bucause I`m 100% this is what you`ve ment when saying that the "Polish language hasnt existed before the second millenium BC" - unlike Latin (which also didn`t existed before the second millenium BC)

So - It looks as if you`d have much to learn.



He`s not right now - you`re here. When he`s going to show up, we`re also going to have a little chat

It depends.

Mr Cogito - I would say otherwise, in truth it's not really going to happen, so my comment was absolutly true, it wasnt a very inteligent answer which is also absolutly true so in fact it doesnt depend on anything xx

Doesn't matter what nationality they were - it matters what good vs evil they brought to the country of Poland.

I made a mistake - should have wrote AD instead of BC, big deal, your posts are littered with mistakes, some whoppers in fact.

Who bullshitting? I'm sorry for not including all her details at the beginning - perhaps you would like her vital stats as well? In any case it wouldn't matter who or what said it - the fact is you're not going to believe anything anti Poland/Polish on this board 'cos you're so in a rut with what you believe nothing exists outside of your blinkers you wear.

If I was to say the Polish football team played shite in the last two world cups you'll probably throw your toys out. Fine, I've got more important things to deal with then you.

Whenever Patriot is around, you seem to be buddies - it figures, he can get stuck in. I'll not lose any sleep over it nor over what an intellectually ineffective piece of flotsam like you has to say.

"Poland joining the EU is almost entirely a good thing for Poland."
Let someone explain this -- why there are many countries that did not join the EU and don't plan to join it in the future? IF it's so good, why don't every country who can join it?