Are the Polish embarrased by President Kaczynski?

and very embarrassed to be Polish.

embarrassed to be Polish

well my GF is CONVINCED no one BUT a polish person living in Poland can understand how bad it is....

I dunno, I can see it from here

it was interesting to note the changes in my polish friends on this matter over the last 6 months or so... first they were angry... then they joked... now they refuse to discuss the political climate with any degree of depth or seriousness...

Hi Daffy,
One thing thats always surprising is people's faces when you get into warsaw, they are gray with misery and depression. Outside of warsaw however, they seem quite happy, and they are building huge houses, driving newer cars.
I was really impressed with the change, but the thing is: The people building huge houses have family in Ireland/UK earning money.

The other people without family abroad say they cannot even keep up with the bills

it was interesting to note the changes in my polish friends on this matter over the last 6 months or so... first they were angry... then they joked... now they refuse to discuss the political climate with any degree of depth or seriousness...

because all the liberals have left Poland and it is just hardline catholics left at home.

Quoting: dannyboy
Hi Daffy,
One thing thats always surprising is people's faces when you get into warsaw, they are gray with misery and depression. Outside of warsaw however, they seem quite happy, and they are building huge houses, driving newer cars.
I was really impressed with the change, but the thing is: The people building huge houses have family in Ireland/UK earning money.

The other people without family abroad say they cannot even keep up with the bills



Ah yea, i see that too but you'd swear they were the only ones to have hard times and its annoying to be told - you cant understand - when you do.

about the pres.? or homosexuals?

if all the people who have emigrated from Poland went home, they would never have been elected, because all the liberals have left Poland and it is just hardline catholics left at home.

Do you regret voting for them?

Do other people persecute you in Poland because your gay or is it just the government?

At first I thought it was because I was talking about the same subject too much, then I realised its because the goverment are STILL in power.
Nobody believed that they would be elected, then nobody believed they would be able to stay in power.

My best mate who is from Warsaw says that if all the people who have emigrated from Poland went home, they would never have been elected

For me, one very strange thing was a caravan full of older Polish men, who were all talking about how much they love Poland and its the best country in the world.

But when they were all in Poland, they were miserable.

People abroad also may vote, If they don't then they shouldn't criticize others' choice.

People abroad also may vote, If they don't then they shouldn't criticize others' choice.

Don't you really see the difference between country - culture, history etc. and administrative-economical system ?

In Ireland, the church no longer influence government matters, although it does still influence a shrinking minority in the population.

Poles complain because It's our national sport.

Quoting: Grzegorz_
People abroad also may vote, If they don't then they shouldn't criticize others' choice.


I didn't know that - that certainly changes things a bit!!

How is this done? Mail system?

I suppose computers would be useful but on the other hand a lot of the Polish people in Ireland would have no access as a lot of them work in rural regions.

Embassies or consulates I think ?

I didn't know that - that certainly changes things a bit!!

How is this done? Mail system?

I'm not too sure what your asking