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what are the statistics on sexual abuse of children in Poland?


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Giles [Guest]
  Apr 13, 07, 06:16  #31

Imagine if we took all the serious sex offenders out of prisons in the UK and shot them, end of prison overcrowding

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daffy
  Apr 13, 07, 06:26  #32

Quoting: Giles
Imagine if we took all the serious sex offenders out of prisons in the UK and shot them, end of prison overcrowding


well i think they're not the bulk of prison population but the penalty sounds right but i know my law abiding side says make them pay back what they took to society - for life. make them do something of benefit to the community. and i do feel its getting of lightly


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i_love_detroit
  Apr 13, 07, 08:29  #33

Ok, let me say about two thing.

First, to all people that accuse priest in Poland of abusing kids. How do you know that the problem is so big? It's so popular nowadays to criticaze church for everything. I can't see (almost) any parents concerned about their child's relations with priest. There were maybe 2-3 cases that actually were not handled properly by the church but that's about it.

Next, be extremaly careful when you accuse somebody of abusing kids. I work in two professions that are very often falsely accused of sexualy abusing kids: babysitting & teaching. Lately I talked to experienced teacher and he told me he knew a guy that was accused of abusing his students. He was fired and outcasted even though it turned out he was innocent.

But I don't want you to think that I think that the problem does not exist. It's a serious problem, and we (people) haven't really learnt yet how to deal with it. But I think either shooting/castrating these people is not a solution, but it's also trendy to say. We got to learn a way to prevent child abuse.


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Giles [Guest]
  Apr 13, 07, 08:35  #34

I'm not saying that the RC has acted inappriatly in Poland, I haven't researched either way, yet. But the problem has cropped up in the UK, the USA and Down under

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i_love_detroit
  Apr 13, 07, 08:50  #35

Quoting: Giles
I'm not saying that the RC has acted inappriatly in Poland, I haven't researched either way, yet. But the problem has cropped up in the UK, the USA and Down under


It is what I am saying . If a priest was unofficialy accused of abusing child (as I said there were a couple cases) he was just moved to another district. It's not a solution! If he was really abusing kids he should face consequences. If he was accused falsely than... well, why to move him to another district?

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But the problem has cropped up in the UK, the USA and Down under


Which doesn't necessary mean it's a serious one in Poland...


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Giles [Guest]
Edited by: Admin  Apr 13, 07, 09:22  #36

I've taken this from the Warsaw voice.


In Poland there is a customary acceptance of using physical violence against children. Nearly half of adult Poles can't imagine bringing up children without beating them.

Paradoxically, according to a survey conducted by the Dzieci Niczyje (Nobody's Children) Foundation in January, Poles support very stiff penalties for people who harm children by brutal beating or sexual abuse. Nearly 67 percent of the respondents said that parents who abuse their children deserve sentences of around 10 years in prison, while 61 percent feel that people should face around 16 years in prison for sexual abuse of children.


warsawvoice.pl/archiwum.phtml/1575/

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Ranj
  Apr 13, 07, 10:40  #37

Thanks for the article, Giles.....interesting stats.


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LoneStranger
  Apr 13, 07, 11:21  #38

Quoting: Ranj
interesting stats

Stats are always monitored by Govt. .

Quoting: i_love_detroit
First, to all people that accuse priest in Poland of abusing kids. How do you know that the problem is so big?

It is a big problem I tell you. But then, I believe... it will come out at a time. Till then yu can speculate. Nothing stays hidden for long.

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mamma mia [Guest]
  Apr 13, 07, 23:06  #39

Quoting: LoneStranger
Nothing stays hidden for long.


That's very true. This subject is considered taboo everywhere, but several western societies have been forced to acknowledge that sexual abuse exists, particularly amongst the clergy/churches - that certainly helped bring in out into the open. It encouraged more victims to come forward exposing family members as well. As for executing perpetrators, I doubt that will eradicate them (human nature being what it is). The best way is to educate the public, make children realise it's wrong and that there are people who will listen to their story and do something about it. By educating society, it puts the spotlight on the whole thing - it may not stamp out offenders, but it will lead to increased prosecutions and jail time. Poland has really only recently become a part of the wider world which would have an impact on how far they've come in bringing this crime to the fore - the whole thing is related to the "norms" in a society and if poles still "beat" their children into submission (as per above article)...it doesn't look good for the children who are victims of sexual predators.

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