Matyjasz- believe me or not, Joy Division is my favorite band (I even tried to put Ian's photo as a avatar, maybe it was too big, I'll try again, just try to make it smaller) and it's not Goth... The lyrics might have smth in common with the culture but rest? Not at all.
Ohhh, and the Cure not bad at all either

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Anyway, what Goth music can be called anyway?
Thiaren- well, I didn't know about that... Seriously, so how other a goth can be dressed? All goth I see/know are all black, maybe tradicionalist

. And man, I hate this strong make up and fat boddies, there are so many female goths that look like that... But it's probably Canadian thing, there are so many fat people... Ohhh, and of course not all of them look like that.