IS THIS FORUM A DUMPING GROUND FOR POLONOPHOBIC RACISTS?

Freedom of speech allows them to express their opinions. But if the opinions cross the borders, the posts are moved to the Abuse Thread or removed.

It seems your problem is that you "criticise THEM." And that leads to possible personal attacts, which equals suspension. It is possible to have a discussion or argument WITHOUT personal attacts; if you don't like someone's opinion, criticize the OPINION, not THE AUTHOR of the opinion.

It is simple as that.

W- He's bitter for some reason that he's not willing to share. He's always saying negative things. It's just unusual for a normal person to do.

Agreed.

A while ago Puzzler did comment about a history of personal attacks on himself as the result of being Polish. From the statement he made, I can see why he perceives negativity toward Poles, even when that isn't necessarily what a poster is saying. He is very sensitized to any slights toward Poles, real or not. To him, his perceptions are vaild, just as they are for any of us: our perceptions are reality.

I don't really like it when he goes off on a rant on someone. Sometimes from my view, he only picks out parts of posts to react to, and discards the positive.

Maybe he isn't aware that he is "dishing it out" first and then getting upset when posters defend themselves. It becomes a vicious cycle, because he is very easily offended. To me, when he engages in this kind of fighting, it is like he is punishing himself, as well as proving to himself that he is attacked because he is Polish.

I don't like fighting, insults, and that sort of behavior. It's bad enough in children, and even more disappointing in adults. But what can you do?

I agree. I'm Polish myself, but I know Poland and Poles as the nation are not perfect (like any other nation), and reasonable argumentations that may show that are perfectly fine with me or other members, I hope. The purpose of this site is to show Poland as it really is - because that's what really counts and that will allow to make it even better on the long run.

Admin

excellent point ADM.

He only was attacked because he called everyone and his brother a polonophobic.
any comment that anyone put forth, was shot down by him. end results was
he was banned.

everyone started to be nice when he apologized, then he started up again thinking
he could rile up the board. that was his intentions because he said in one of his
last posts, I will be back and I will be even more puzzling.. so it was intentional
and admin picked up on that to which I am good person too and understanding
shopgirl, but hes pushing his rights out the door by his own actions..

we all learn by our mistakes and try to not do it again, he hasnt got off the
polonophobic subject since day one. everyones here for one reason or another
and we like it here. yes he has some valid points on some stuff, and other stuff
doesnt even come close.

as for the little girl and for the man -both killed senselessly, all that should be said
is for their families to find some closure and send our prayers and may they
rest in peace.. it was horrible, and we shouldnt mock anyones death.. yes I was
upset when things were said, and I am still upset at it, because there is a time when
we can comment and a time when to shut up! plain and simple.. call upon your
reserves Puzzler to be more respectful. thats all..

its not ok for a child, adult, anyone to be killed, hopefull all who's life purpose
is to harm others get what they deserve, to the fullest of the law and beyond.

I dont know about anyone else, I plan to make a difference, in my own life and in
others.. no amount of insults will change that for me.

I believe the admin did the right thing and will cont to do the right thing.

If I was to get banned it would be my own fault.. so we need to take responsiblity
for our own actions as we are all adults.. including puzzler.. unless you all know
something I dont :)

What I remember him saying, is that he has experienced personal attacks all through his life....

I can tell you that if you get dumped on, long enough, and consistently....it changes "who you are" and how your see yourself..

An example would be to look at a child who has been abused, or a dog that has been beaten....they become very wary of others and are quick to defend themselves.

This is my perception of him.

Then its time for Therapy.. we didnt attack him first, he attacked us

commenting and calling us all polophobic. I see your point, but it was his initial
comments to others. and also to prove ourselfs, if we made opinions, he wanted
proof of the opinion, so even our feelings were challenged.

I'm not saying I agree with his behavior, or that I condone it.
I just try to understand a little.
Sorry, it is the psychologist in me.

no, i quoted you. using the 'quote' function of this forum.

Read what admin and the members are telling you.

You are not being discriminated due to nationality. Your freedom of speech is not being impeded.
Your obligations to the rules and other members were being enforced and will always be enforced on you and on other members.

It is possible to get your point across without personal attacks. Personal attacks are an abuse of freedom of speech and break forum rules. frequently breaking them (as you did) results in action, a suspension/ban.

Your actions and not your nationality determine the reactions. People come from all over the world and vist this forum. The troublemakers (be they from Poland, Ireland, Katmandu) will always be removed, just like in real life. You must follow the rules of society at all times.

My parting advice to you is woven above - be good and dont attack people on this forum
(this does not discriminate your nationality or prevent your freedom of speech)

Good day Puzzler & welcome back

this is what we want to see!!!

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not thing like this puzzler.

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Yes, and who has paid for it all? Incidentally, how many billions of American dollars is Poland in dept for to the West? I can not remember of hand. Was it not Gierek who bancrupted the Polish economy and who was going to modernize the country and look what happened...

I have visited towns like Czluchow, which were German before the war and sometimes the Germans come to see where they used to live. Come off it, Poland must be a dump or otherwise why do all the Polish young want to get out for good?

If you knew anything then you'd know why they wish to work elsewhere. Has nothing to do with the physical condition of the counrty. It's called crappy pay and no good jobs. It's cleaner than many other countries . Ever been to Hong Kong or Phillipines?

What has that got to do with anything in Poland?

that is an unessesary assumption.. it is human nature to explore other parts of the world... and there are many many people in other areas of the world who would like to move their orignal land.. what would u say when an individual who lives in sweden moves to london.. is that because sweden is a dump... no i think not.. its based on peoples opinions... there are many people living in poland who dont even think about moving abroad...

exactly, fisz said it nicely... everyone has to earn a living at the end of the day...

More rubbish from you. If you care to check you will see that much of what is being built here is being built with Polish money. The recently opened Pasaz Grunwaldzki is a Polish investment. The tallest building in Poland, when it's completed, will have been a Polish investment. We have EU money and Asian money coming in all the time. Therefore things are changing quickly. This is not the Poland that you claim to know from twenty years ago. Look at the property thread. Wroclaw is one of the main places people want to be located.
If you still think Poland is a dump, why don't you look at the pictures of Poland thread. All the evidence for a beautiful, dynamic Poland is on this website.
Even the people who come back after being away for one or two years get a shock. There is always more to do, more to see and more to enjoy.
And as for the Germans. They are only p*ssed off because their former house has now been built over by something better.

Ok. So maybe you don't know. Try asking everyone in the UK why they're working there and I;m sure none of the answers will have anything to do with the appearance of the country.

bravo..


the japs have invested heavily in germany also.. its a cycle.. no ones better or beutiful then any other.. its what u make of it..

And you "sir" are... well, nevermind :)

Michal,

Why are you judging? putting all of Poland in one spot. I was there, and yes there are areas that need attention, but did you happen to ask why??? 40 years of having your rights and property siezed and having no means of repairing after the raping and destruction was done might be a reason. My friends there are very por, their mother works 6 days a week 8 hours a day for 1200 Z a month, $400us., maybe that is why. It hurt me to see this, and I have dome something about it. I took my blood sweat and tears and have sent much to them to make their lives easier.
Maybe instead of complaining since...
...Us JESUS people use these words too much, how unfounded, us JESUS people who really care about God, and others, we put our money where our mouths are. Instead of saying how dirty , have mercy and help, it is easy to criticise people who have to live and die by working their lives away just to stay above ground. Is a foolish thing to say, sorry, but I saw pretty parts of Poland and I can not wait to get back and visit, and look for my family roots.

Hey Puzzler,
I know you have had some heated debates, and i welcome them, just try as you can to keep the edge off a bit, use what words you need, but try to make them easier to swallow, you catch bees with honey.

Anyway glad to see you back, and I want to wish you a very very Happy Birthday for june 5th!!! Sto Lot Chlpaku!!

Hey Admin.
I agree with Puzzler, I think he has been abused a bit, this is not an off topic subject, please keep it here.

Thanks

if larry say that ,,,i m sure is true

Am I the great and might OZ???

Thanks for the complement Espana,
you are a true gentleman

Making comments about the stolen german land now dirty.At least Germans would keep it clean,is this not right Michal?

Southern, I made no reference to germans or any stolen land, that I have no knowledge of, I am talking about Soviet time occupation. So no comment on that.