A thought on Poland!

lol.. I like to buy the world a coke :)) and keep it company :))) I know it I do I do..

Weird work hours huh? What time is it? Are the birdies chirping yet? :)

Yeah, you and Vrana both! You guys are scary :)

I find that Ogorek totally misunderstand me:



You are absolutely right about the powerlessness of the meek, but from my point of view, as every human being is potentially equal (some may be strong mentally while others have advantage in physicality, even the most outwardly incapable have some amazing abilities that need to be nurtured). So that is the duty of universal education is to guide every human how to reach their fullest potential and to master their destiny, 'to be an Equal among the Equals, to be free among the Free'. (Even in the hopeless case, which should be very rare if the education system is advanced enough, compassion and empathy can be deeply instilled into all other members of the world society so that they would help instead of bullying and ostracizing the unfortunate few).
If you see human society just like nature, that is lions always eat sheeps, then you will basically turn yourself into a beast, no more, no less.


The ideas I have expressed through the post is my own ideas, it has nothing to do with the standpoint of my country or my other countrymen.



I of course wish they could be better, and anyway just to be quick with the mess, I requote myself:


They have done rather well, but remember the word "unwittingly". To care greatly for Poland is excellent, but I really doubt they really care for EU, a great project, no matter how currently flawed it is right now. That stands in stark constrast with truly great Poles in history like Adam Mickiewicz and Jan Pawel 2, who possessed both Polish distinct virtues and the universal humanist outlook.




That is actually a statement of sympathy, not derision.

To conclude, I can easily see that you are a Polish ultra-nationalist, and that you represent the worst aspect of a nation I greatly admire. Simple as that.
And I also suddenly understand why some Poles could possibly hate some other Poles so much.

You're not bad either Brat :)

Oh yes...sometimes they are discussing so loudly...erm I mean chirping... they wake me up (especially interesting on weekends)...not to mention when they are fighting with each other or some stranger is coming and they warn each other...boah! :)

But when they are gone and the winter nears I miss them...it's too quiet...

Brat, you mean when Bruce Willis has to pull the stones out of her when she dies? Ewww!
But of course I appreciated the stones' representation of earth, water, wind and fire and the astrological significance therein :)

ahhhhhhhh this was what I was looking for.. we are Equal.. our blood is the same
color.

Nationality is unimportant. its the human inside.

although I dont agree with some cultures. I can only say I respect those I find humans
and to not hurt others just because you can..

Yes I have Ravens out back and when they fight over some nibble of food....might as well be a soccer match going on outside :) Very, very noisy!

I am sorry, Ogorek, for I just recently read this quote. Hm you could be suprisingly open and tolerant? Hope you carry this attitude all along, just not limit that to the Russians. Apologize again.

But they don't see themselves this way at all. They are trying to protect something that they feel is being taken away. They have learned this attitude.

Yes...we have them too...a whole colony of them...but I like them!
Most interesting creatures!
In our germanic mythology Odin has his own two Ravens, Hugin and Munin, he sends them every morning out to gather news what happened on Earth and between his humans and in the evening they come back and tell him everything there is to know...smart birds!

wow :))

looks admiringly to tran Anh :)) very deep indeed..

Yeah, they're funny too. They'll "talk" to you when they are sitting on a fence. They are very smart. In Native American symbology they represent magic, secrets, dreams and the veil between this world and the next. Not bad :)

Sounds rather like just another Germanophobe...

Interesting that they have such an elated place in the Germanic world too isn't it?

:)

Doesn't that mean someone who is afraid of germs?

(Just kidding!) :)

*tries to keep the mood from turning sour*

even advanced though wont control the whole population. it all boils down to
what is taught in the home.. each story is different. each history written is how
they seen it.. as divided as it was. and history is divided. maybe thats why we
stay so divided because we teach it over and over again and again and new
generations are burdened with old wounds that can never heal until we burn
our history books!!!



whos with me!!!! arghhhhhhhhh j/k.. I see I quoted myself but it wasnt me I was
quoting..

Yea, that kinda the same thing that I say: if a "bad attitude" is learned because of bad things that have been experienced, then conversly,good experiences can lead to the development of a "good attitude". They real key in this is being OPEN enough to recognize that what you believe (read bad attitude) might not be true! And then be willing to change what you think, when presented with a new experience.

That's basically what my thread on Tolerance and Diversity was trying to say :)

It's not the books in the first place I think....

It's rather that WWII was the first war really totally captured on film...that was a first and makes it so special and so lingering.

I doubt that the misery of WWII was more cruel than the misery of every other war...but the cruelties of the thirty years war or the roman enslavement of whole
peoples can't as easy be seen and experienced as watching newsreels from WWII...so that impresses more I think...

.....andIlikemyhistorytoomuchasthatIwanttoburnmybooks!....:(

I would love to rant over and over again at the state of the world. There is one great fault in all human education practice so far that it has not found a good way to combat VANITY--possibly the worst evil mankind have always been facing. Vanity forces every men, every nation compete and compare relentlessly again each others, the ones who are more successful ALWAYS prone to be MEGALOMANIAC (everyone bow down before me or else!) while the less successful are equally prone to envy, inferior hatred and cynicism. I find the situation rather hopeless when using conventional means to solve problems between nation and the grudge just carry on until either the whole human race destroy itself or each nation seek one planet (no matter how inhabitable it is) for itself in the whole universe.

But then come the true blessing of mankind, Music. I believe this is the only means to solve every bloody problems that are plaguing us today. So Bratwurst boy, get your eyes and fingers out of your silly PC and go practice some Mazurkas (I suggest the Op 24 by Mr Chopin!) and at the same time the Polish guys and gals should make a dash at the Fantasy by Schuman (the most beautiful German in my opinion!). To appreciate true music, we must foster EMPATHY, and that trait alone can save this rather childish world!

I watch them, I get angry.. yet I am talking to you and find you excellent human being
we misunderstood each other , its our world powers that are at fault then..

so lets stop listening to the crazies and be our human selfs..

That was not an answer Tran!

:(

What you call "great fault" has the nature inbred into every human being for a reason!

That "fault" makes us developing, evolving...without that desire to compete we would had died out long ago!

The whole nature is a competing sharks pond!

now your back to braggin.. :(

Yes...that's my charm! :)

But how should wounds heal if every new generation will feel the same anger again and again?
When I listen to stories about the horrors of the bombing of german cities or from people who suffered the Vertreibung I feel hate too...even if I never experienced that myself!

those third world countries are still going strong..

No...I didn't want to brag just stating a fact!
If these are reasons for Poland to always feel uncomfortable or defensive against Germany then there is NOTHING we can do about it...we can't change it!

I know its all the history we learn.. i wasnt born then.. so why should I feel this
anger? but I re assessed my feeling to be directed at people who do in-human things
even though it didnt change much .. because then we get into a whole bigger picture
and it contradicts itself.. *frustrating* Sigh*

stating it for what reason?? this is where misunderstandings come in.. I could take
you two different ways.. but I think mostly the sarcasim comes in stronger..

now if you were stating it to educate me.. you would say.. did you know that germany
is the largest country in the eu? and as the population grew so did our economy?

etc etc.. your approach was off kiester :)

Ps.. lol dont ask me what off kiester means,, i havent a clue.. :)