A thought on Poland!

True. We should f. them up at the first opportunity.

And then?

G live for 2007 not 2000 B.C.

and just like that day when you had a run in with a german guy. well. it wasnt
because he was german, it was because he pushed your friend.. so the german
part had nothing to do with the fact that this guy was a A_HOLE.. theres good in
every nation.. this has to be something people "individuals* come to terms with
because its really stupid to keep the anger flowing!! I know your smarter then those
people who want to keep the anger going right G :)

* looks at G with hopeful grin * :)))

Well, Where is Lef's Smart retort??

Ive been waiting all day/night.. and no retort?

the really ironic thing is.. that he didnt believe me.. and the other ironic
thing is.. that link is provided by someone in Where???

Germany, Berlin!!! say it louder!!! GERMANY, BERLIN!!!

oops.. the other other ironic thing is.. that its dated May of 2007!!!

so its fresh, it is real and exists.. there was other stuff. but I thought
I would only use that one to rub the salt in alot!!!

:D (Sorry G, but that was kinda funny!)

I dont mean to be anyway bad.. I really like and respect G alot too.

It my brothers fault that I am this way.. Honestly... lol

I know you miss my comments on this forum, sometimes you know you just have to shake the dust off your feet and walk away, firstly I was having a conversation with Lord BubbaWoo about Polish/German relations. A serious topic and what I have stated stands. What Polish people need to understand that the German nation has never had much respect for the polish culture and all they are doing now is bleeding Poland dry, The Germans interest in Poland is to make money at the expense of Poland and buy as much land which formed part of the German empire prior to the war. As I mentioned elsewhere the Germans are a very intelligent race, and what they produce or export (ie cars, food, clothing) equals the best. (I'm not anti German)
Your response to my comments Pat, is like a charge from the US 3rd Cavalry, you always have Ranj your faithful Lieutenant at your side and ready to insult... mmmmm

was that u shakin dust.. cause I was makin it lef.. :)))))

or maybe I was winning that kangaroo race .. heh heh..



no, you werent, you commented on my post firstly, bubba asked you why
then you both conversed.. TUCHEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY..



to each his own. just leave me alone , dont pick and I wont pick back.



hey Ranj is my bud.. and we live here, and she sees alot of things I see the same
so why not? I am sorry no one sees things as you do lef.. there has to be another
aussie who wants to become your lieutenant.. then we can play battleship or
something.. :)

Ps.. someone told me that Australia was the dumpin ground for prisoners from england
back in the day.. but me being all patriotic and good hearted told them what do you
care.. Australia is one of "our Worlds" more beautiful countries....

So now what Lef?
* has her dukes up* jumpin back and forth-side to side.. lol..

dont be messin wif da P

Excuse me????? Could you please enlighten me and point out where I insulted you?

Got that right :)) my monsterous hours are from 2 am to 10 am

Bring on the tea!!!!



He cant Ranj that is the point..he asked me for proof and he waited ( not long I
might add) and I provided it, and he tried the ole psycology bit with I was talkin
to bubba.. and LT Ranj bit.. just another way of avoiding saying that for once
he was wrong.. which is ok to admit when your Wrong.. " once in a while"

me and you stick up when it comes to the American bashing, so hes using that as
his tool to avoid the real reasons..

so his Patrycja bashing was unwarranted, Its ok lef.. I forgive you.. sometimes.
as for me not respecting Poland , thats where you are dead wrong. as I have
clarified many times over in many posts..

Very good point, P......he also evaded BW's question a couple days ago when he was asked the last time he was in Poland or Germany......it only asked for a simple answer, yet apparently he had to "go out" so he didn't have time to say, "I was there last month" or "last year" or "I spent five of the last six years in these places."

Oh well, I don't give much creedence anymore to what Lef has to say (actually, I never really did....oh well).

Me Neither.



good point Ranj :)

guess he must have thought our American intelligence was not up to par :)

Tisk Tisk Lef.. :))

Been away for a while and read your post, can I firstly give my unreservedly apology to you and anybody else on this forum who I may have offended. Sorry. In a way its all part of the fun when you belong to a forum of this nature. You have to understand that I am a larrikin at heart (most aussies are) and don't take things to heart.
I do feel for the polish people however and love to see them enjoy the stardards of life as we enjoy here, catcha later.

Ditto!

I just thought it strange that you picked up my post and had your way with it :))

The thing that makes WWII so special isn't TV or the numbers of people that died. It's the fact that in modern times, in the middle of Europe, the continent that can be called the cradle of western civilization, members of a nation that contributed so much to the humanity were building death factories where there were killing fellow human beings as if they were animals and producing soap from them. It didn't happen in ancient times. It didn’t happen in Africa. That's why WWII is so special.

re: producing soap from them

- Matt, it seems that the soap story was just a piece of propaganda. No real proof the story was true. The Germans did various things during WWII, but rather not the aforementioned soap.

First, the soap story is a hoax...ask the Jews themselves.

(Did you know that this Soap-hoax was already used during WWI by british propagandists? In 1925, the British Foreign Secretary Sir Austen Chamberlain admitted that the "corpse factory" story had been a lie!)

"...The claim resurfaced very early during World War II, so early that it almost certainly was not true. However, contemporary jokes, threats, rumors and insults show beyond a doubt that many people thought that it was at least believable. The main support for this belief was found in the abbreviation "RIF" which was imprinted on most pieces of soap available in Germany during WWII. It was interpreted as "Reines Jüdisches Fett" (pure Jewish fat) while, in fact, the abbreviation stood for "Reichsstelle für industrielle Fettversorgung" (National Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning)...."

Second...would it have been more okay if Germans had killed Jews the "old" way like in those many pogroms...with shovels or bullets???
Yes...Germany was a highly industrialized country and it used all it could to kill as many of her percieved enemies as possible and as efficient as possible.
Like the US did with their Atom-Bomb...new technology to reach the goals.
Do you think it made a big difference to the victims if they were gassed or clubbed to death???

I always found this argument especially awkward (and bigot).

Even the creators of the atomic bomb were horrified at the creation they had wrought...they were so caught up in the excitement of the discovery that they hadn't really thought about the application.

re: like in those many pogroms...with shovels or bullets???

- Do you allude to the zionist and neo-nazi horror stories about the alleged 'pogroms' by the Poles? You germans like to repeat this nonsense to divert attention from themselves, right? If you whine that lots of stories about the german alleged atrocities are absurd, then why do you repeat equally absurd tales about the Poles? The usual german self-centeredness, manipulativeness, and lack of higher emotions? Yes, for such reasons as these you can't be a really great nation. You can't compare e.g. with the English.
:)

Nooooo....that was not a shot against Poles...honestly!
But fact is Jews got killed since they wandered into Europe...and the methods were surely not as "modern" as gas chambers but were they less cruel because of that???

Hmmmm......

Puzzler, he's.........speechless! How in hell did you manage that! ;D

I'm just very disappointed! Bye

I'm sorry, Brat. Truly :(

*hugs Brat*

Aww, come back Brat....don't leave like that.

re: But fact is Jews got killed since they wandered into Europe...

- You mean that Jews got killed since they got into Europe? - If yes, well, Jews also weren't innocent lambs and they killed too, as e.g. stalinism (i.e. Russian terror in rougly 1944-53) in Poland shows. Have you heard about the atrocities of Solomon Morel, for example, who ran a concentration camp for Germans (and also Poles) in Silesia? How many thousands of German (and some Polish) civilians did he murder with his own hands? There were scores and scores of those like him.

re: and the methods were surely not as "modern" as gas chambers but were they less cruel because of that???

- I've heard stories about those 'gas chambers' but don't know much about what they were like. How did they look? Is there e.g. any credible photo of them?

Shopgirl, don't worry. If he really clicks with us, he'll be back. If not, then it'd be sad, but well, it's life. I think that if he's really such a splendid 'Teutonic' warrior, then he should come and keep on fighting, until peace is reached.

All the best , Butty.
;)

YOU??? Why are YOU sorry???
I was not disappointed with you girl! :)

I was just disappointed with you Puzzler...whereas I try to refrain from broadest generalizations about Poland and Poles you do use them about Germany whenever it suits you...I thought we were over that....:(

'm sorry Puzzler...there are things which are just not open to discussion in Germany...:(