A thought on Poland!

If Germans would have developed atom bomb it would have been used surely more than twice as it was with US. US never tried to exterminate/enslave whole nations or peoples. And no, dont start with the USA & Native Americans, there was never a systematic plan to kill them all.



The gassing exemplies the systematicness and industrialization of the killing. It is carefully planned with all the blueprints etc. It is different than going into village with machete´s in rage like it was with Ruanda.

It's not true...the Reservations for Native Americans may be considered as prototype of the concentration camps in Europe.

Oh, here's some pertinent news regarding the medieval oppression in some European countries.

PRISON FOR COMPARING ABORTION TO HOLOCAUST

Dr Johannes Lerle, Lutheran priest, was given a one year sentence for 'Holocaust denial.' He compared abortion to the Holocaust of the Jews. 'One hundred and fifty thousand abortions every year in Germany are the same as the murder of innocent Jews in Auschwitz,' he said.

(after Polish website ekumenizm.pl)

May God protect Herr Lerle!

WTF ??? How this can be seen as Holocaust Denial ? Comparing abortion and Holocaust may be bad taste but that is a whole another matter.

Isaac B. Singer said once "When it comes to treating animals, all people are nazis."
Is that statement Holocaust denial also...

Shocking... K twins should give him political asylum.

It would have been more okay if Germans had not killed Jews at all.

Unfortunately It seems you missed the whole point of my post and the point was, that the reason standing behind the specialness of WWII is the fall of thought that together with the development of our civilization we will escape our beastly nature. That we will learn something from the history of mind kind and finally evolve... Unfortunately what this civilization development brought us was just more efficient inventions and ways to exterminate our fellow human beings. I'm not trying to say that the holocaust was the most despicable act of human bestiality, but if someone would make a list containing such acts I'm sure it would be somewhere up there on the top.



Do you mean if there is a big difference between a painful death and a long and painful death? I guess that both end the same, but I can imagine people going for the first option. Personally I would choose to be killed by an angry mob than to go to a concentration camp.

No they are not concentration camps.

The intent of reservations was to keep tribes together and offer compensation for lands that had been settled by whites. While I definitely do not think Native Amercians were treated with dignity, fairness or respect....the emphasis was more on "converting" them to whilte culture (religion, language, lifestyles) than extermination.

In clashes between very agressive tribes and the US govt, yes, there is a very sad and bloody history. But not all tribes were the same. Some tribal governments were more adaptive and friendly to early settlers, others regarded whites with stiff opposition and resisted them fiercely.

Constantine....I think you have seen too many "Western" movies from Hollywoood! :)

re: more okay if Germans had not killed Jews at all.

- I just wonder Matyjasz why are you so concerned about Jews, and not e.g. about Poles? Do jews care about the killed Poles, or for that matter about anybody else but jews?

Is it an obsession with some people this whining about Jews?

You'd better be concerned about Poles killed by jews e.g. during stalinism.

Or about the outrageous property claims levelled at Poland by the 'Holocaust Industry' today.

Or about Palestinians, including children, killed today by jews almost everyday.

Puzz, I went to Oswiecim (Auschwitz), when I was in 6th grade (long time ago) :)
I still remember the horror of this place. Not to mention, the stories from people who were actually there and survived (including my uncle). The camp was built to kill people, and it is just one of many.

Because my real name is Matiyah Finkelstein... :) nah, because I was answering BB post:





Everyday you learn something new. Thanks.

That was hysterical! :)