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How to say Polish rz?


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andybk [Guest]
  Jan 8, 07, 14:45  #1

just a question about how to say polish rz is it like polish sz or ¶ or completely different, can any one help proszê

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Maya
  Jan 8, 07, 15:10  #2

duno how 2 write it down, am not sure if it will help u anyway but its the same pronauciation as other polish letter '¿' as in word ¯aba ...soz if i hvnt helpd much

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WannaLearn [Guest]
  Jan 9, 07, 07:33  #3

try Ivona speech synthesiser (google it) she'll tell you

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Dagmara
  Jan 15, 07, 22:09  #4

like "g" in "genre"

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Thiaren [Guest]
  Jan 21, 07, 03:54  #5

Well, maybe not like in "genre" cause "g" is like polish "d¿"
If you know a little french try saying "je taime" (i love). "j" sounds exactly like polish "rz"
in english it's hard to find a word like this

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Kamyk
Edited by: Kamyk  Jan 25, 07, 13:39  #6

try saying mea[su]re or plea[su]re - that's the sound of polish rz/¿

polish sz - english [s]ure
polish ¶ - ?? cannot think of any right now

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FISZ
  Jan 25, 07, 13:49  #7

SZ and ¶ are similar, but the shape of the mouth is different...hard to explain. You can see the differences/similarities here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_phonology

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Amathyst
  Jan 25, 07, 14:49  #8

how the French would pronunce the very begining of June...dz

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Eurola
  Jan 25, 07, 20:04  #9

Quoting: Amathyst, Post #8
how the French would pronunce the very begining of June...dz

I think it would sound more like in 'Je t'aime" (not sure of the exact spelling), which sound more like polish '¿e'

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Moonika01
  Apr 20, 07, 07:46  #10

Maybe it will help u :
¯ - is the same like for example english word PLEASURE
D¯ - like in JUST word, but a bit harder spoken ;-)
RZ - sounds the same as ¯
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Karima
  Apr 20, 07, 08:54  #11

between rz and ¿ isnt any deferent. is saund simialr like in french word 'je taime' like j

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Karima
  Apr 20, 07, 08:55  #12

Quoting: Eurola
I think it would sound more like in 'Je t'aime

sorry i didnt noticed it

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xXlisaXx
  Apr 20, 07, 10:37  #13

i wrote out as 'jur' to get the phonic sound

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angela
  Apr 21, 07, 13:07  #14

rz and z with a dot

if you lay your tongue flat on the floor of your mouth and say je in je t'aime or su in pleasure you will get the sound.

sz is sh tonge at floor of mouth s accent is sh tongue raised a little towards palete.

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Grzechu [Guest]
  Apr 23, 07, 09:15  #15

In many words in polish when 'rz' is after consonant you pronounce it like polish 'sz'. Fo example word 'krzy¿' (cross) or 'trzcina' (cane)

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Grzechu [Guest]
  Apr 23, 07, 09:16  #16

... and polish 'sz' is english 'sh' like in word shattered

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glowa
  Apr 23, 07, 09:51  #17

rz sounds like g in 'genre'

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Grzechu [Guest]
  Apr 23, 07, 09:59  #18

That's generally true, but not always... above I have given some examples of polish words where they are pronounced as 'sh'

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glowa
Edited by: glowa  Apr 23, 07, 10:01  #19

yeah, I know, I read it and indeed you're right. but the one I wrote is the simplest comparison to and English sound I could come up with
and t seems to work best when it comes to describing the 'rz','¿' sounds.

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Magg [Guest]
  May 2, 07, 05:58  #20

after voiceless consonant!!! this is phonetical assimilation.

BTW ¶-¼, æ-d¼, ñ, are palatal sounds. The middle of your tongue softly touch the palate.

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glowa
  May 2, 07, 06:45  #21

Quoting: Thiaren
Well, maybe not like in "genre" cause "g" is like polish "d¿"
If you know a little french try saying "je taime" (i love). "j" sounds exactly like polish "rz"
in english it's hard to find a word like this

yeah and 'genre' is exactly such a word.

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vlk
  May 14, 08, 05:04  #22

Thiaren:
Well, maybe not like in "genre" cause "g" is like polish "d¿"
If you know a little french try saying "je taime" (i love). "j" sounds exactly like polish "rz"
in english it's hard to find a word like this


In this case it would be as in English "pleasure", though it´s not exactly like rz, still very close.
rz varies between ¿ (morze), sz (zaparz) and cz (trzy)...

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