Poland-My 9-day experience

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zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,710 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Jul 24, 10, 15:58 #61
NorthMancPolak: By Mancher I meant some industrial city... ok, is Liverpool better example then?

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Edited by: NorthMancPolak Jul 24, 10, 16:05 #62

zetigrek:

By Mancher I meant some industrial city... ok, is Liverpool better example then?

Somewhere like Bradford or Leicester would have been a better example of industrial cities which are barely worth visiting, to be honest.

As we were talking about Silesia earlier, Katowice is closer to places like that in terms of how "worth visiting" they are. Of course, the Greater Katowice area probably ought to be richer than Warsaw, but I don't want to turn this into a thread which supports Niepodległość Śląska ;)

I don't like Liverpool much, but it's definitely worth a visit if you're in the North West.

delphiandomineThreads: 40 Posts: 9,572 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂	Jul 24, 10, 16:18 #63
NorthMancPolak: Somewhere like Bradford or Leicester would have been a better example of industrial cities which are barely worth visiting, to be honest. Hahaha, I know someone who went on holiday to Bradford, I still can't work it out :D

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 56 Posts: 5,262 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Jul 24, 10, 16:20 #64
Its a little cruel this thread but many points are true.

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Jul 24, 10, 16:51 #65

Some of the points are valid, but most are not, especially to those of us who live here.

Nothing beautiful in Danzig? You've got to be kidding me! It's got the most unique Old Town in Poland for a starter. And it's Gdansk, not Danzig. I don't care what her school books called it. When in Rome...

No waves at Hel? Not on the bay side, true. Walk a few hundred meters across the peninsula to the open sea and you'll find waves.

Most of her inaccurate observations were based upon a short 9 day trip. If she comes back next summer, I'd gladly show her some stunning sights in and around Trojmiasto.

Maybe part of her frustration was having to drive a car without an automatic, or not researching who's eligible to buy student tickets on a train. Some people just like to p*ss and moan.

Lyzko

Jul 24, 10, 16:54 #66

A little late into this thread, but, for whatever it's worth, I LOVED being in Poland. Granted, it was only a short time, and I was primarily in Szczecin, I found the architecture most pleasing to the eye and I found that most people, particularly women, had a highly developed aesthetic sensibility we here in the States used to have,say, in the '50's, but have long since lost ever since the Audrey Hepburn look went out of style-:))

JESZCZE POLSKA NIE ZGINĘŁA!!

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Jul 24, 10, 16:55 #67

AussieSheila:

I noticed some people are riled up, i have no intention of offending anyone.

What if a person went on an Australian website, and read this before going there for a two-week journey;

"The advertisements feature Australians preparing for visitors to their country. It begins in an Outback pub with the barkeeper saying, "We've poured you a beer." Further imagery to a similar effect is then shown, including a young boy on the beach saying, "We've got the sharks out of the pool," and partygoers watching Sydney harbour fireworks saying, "We've turned on the lights". The commercial ends with bikini-clad model Lara Bingle at Fingal Spit stepping out of the ocean and asking, "So where the bloody hell are you?"

The campaign received massive press coverage, but it was soon deemed a failure and withdrawn".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_where_the_bloody_hell_are_you%3F

"'We are much more than a nation of great people and great places,'' Mr Crean will say at today's launch.

''We have won 10 Nobel Prizes and we are a nation bursting with creativity and ingenuity. The Australian way is to underplay our achievements but this kind of modesty only surrenders the edge to our competitors.''

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/lost-for-words-australia-crav es-a-brand-new-label-20090825-ey3n.html

Oh really, what about "Aussie Sheila" then...if she is "modest", then I don't dare to think about a real Aussie talking...

By the way, Poland has 23 nobel prize winners...(Not that it's a competition...).

http://pl-nobel.prv.pl/

So, what does Australia have to offer, besides having to take a plane to visit any other country, or even any city! 90% of the landmass is unsuitable for living (you can only see so many beaches before longing for something else), poisonous creatures of all sizes and effects..including very deadly, shark infested waters, lebanese gangs that gangrape women and beat up everyone they feel like, including at beaches, restaurants and public streets (youtube it), an appaling treatment on the Aboriginees, skippy the bush cangaroo, crocodile dundee and a dead Steve Irwin (God bless his soul). Nobody bloody(!) cares about Australian rules football, cricket or whatever you play down there. The boomerang? Who the hell came up with that idea? And 100 feet long trucks that treck your desert highways....yeah, compare that to Poland, with it's 1000 year old history, castles, dynasties, old town squares, lakes, the possibility of visiting half a dozen countries with your car within a days drive, including cities like Berlin, Prague, Lviv, Budapest. How about skiing, sunbathing at beautiful beaches that stretch for miles and miles, filled with nightlife and modern hotels, snorkling, canoing in any of the thousands of lakes, visting vast protected wild life parks with fantastic fauna and animal life, nightclubbing, concerts, prime cuisine, all connected by modern highways, with cities with millions of people...how far do you come in Australia in the same time? How many different places, sites, cultures, food and people do you encounter there on a daytrip? What's your thing, besides the Opera and the bridge in the harbour, that occupies 90% of all your postcards?

"Aussie Sheila", shows a typical version of the "western" style of demanding things. My wife, born in Poland, but grew up in the U.S, has the same "problem". Everything has to be "immidiate", wether it's food or shopping. If the tower is not the highest, it's not worth seeing, if the street is not the longest, it's not worth walking. And if something takes more than 10 minutes, the restless leg syndrome kicks in...it has taken her 5 years here in a remote city in Norway to "calm down", and accept that beauty is found everwhere, and is not always like portrayed on TV or in magazines with enhanced colours or music for effect. I suspect "Aussie Sheila", is smitten by this and it has blurred her vision a bit. She needs more than a week or two to really understand a place, its beauty and how things should be seen.

This is NOT an attack on Australia, which I KNOW is a beautiful place, or "Aussie Sheila". But you can find faults in every country, like a poster mentioned earlier, it's how you perceive it that is important. For "Aussie Sheila", to actually log on this site, take the 20 minutes it took her to write the, mostly, negative aspects of her journey, shows that she is not the most tolerant, open-minded or positive person that should be visiting another country.

Dariusz

Who can tell similar "bad" experiences from visiting France (Top of Eiffel Tower is SO overrated), England, (The asphalt jungles they call cities gave me psychological trauma), Germany, (talk about dull landscape while driving), Spain, (Someone ban the mopeds...pleeeease).

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Jul 24, 10, 17:08 #68

DariuszTelka:

By the way, Poland has 23 nobel prize winners..

And.....

DariuszTelka:

Dariusz

You attack Aussie Sheila and then post the same.

DariuszTelka:

France (Top of Eiffel Tower is SO overrated), England, (The asphalt jungles they call cities gave me psychological trauma), Germany, (talk about dull landscape while driving), Spain, (Someone ban the mopeds...pleeeease).

It's a steel tower what do expect at the top?

So you prefer the concrete jungles of Poland?

Autobahns?

Mopeds, i agree.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,710 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Edited by: zetigrek Jul 24, 10, 17:28 #69
DariuszTelka: Poland has 23 nobel prize winners 23 ?! what a bs. You count grand children of american/jewish imigrnats who would never call themselves polish... Poles have won only 7 Nobel Prize: Curie Skłodowska x 2 Sienkiewicz Reymont Miłosz Wałęsa Szymborska and thats all.

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Jul 24, 10, 17:33 #70

delphiandomine:

Hahaha, I know someone who went on holiday to Bradford, I still can't work it out :D

PMSL!!!

Where was s/he from? Karachi?? :D

scottie1113:

Nothing beautiful in Danzig? You've got to be kidding me! It's got the most unique Old Town in Poland for a starter. And it's Gdansk, not Danzig.

100% correct :)

DariuszTelka:

So, what does Australia have to offer, besides having to take a plane to visit any other country, or even any city! 90% of the landmass is unsuitable for living (you can only see so many beaches before longing for something else), poisonous creatures of all sizes and effects..including very deadly, shark infested waters, lebanese gangs that gangrape women and beat up everyone they feel like, including at beaches, restaurants and public streets (youtube it), an appaling treatment on the Aboriginees, skippy the bush cangaroo, crocodile dundee and a dead Steve Irwin (God bless his soul). Nobody bloody(!) cares about Australian rules football, cricket or whatever you play down there. The boomerang? Who the hell came up with that idea? And 100 feet long trucks that treck your desert highways....What's your thing, besides the Opera and the bridge in the harbour, that occupies 90% of all your postcards?

It's too hot and they're running out of water as well :)

time means:

It's a steel tower what do expect at the top?

It's about the views, not about the "top of the tower" anyway :) But I'd still rather go back up the Petřínská rozhledna (though not when it's windy :0 lol )

DariuszTelka:

Poland has 23 nobel prize winners

Mostly Jews, unsurprisingly.

Lyzko	Jul 24, 10, 17:36 #71
Technically right, I'm afraid. For instance, Sir Ernst Boris Chain, who won the Prize for Chemistry along with Alexander Fleming, was of Polish-Jewish birth, yet a naturalized Brit.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,710 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Edited by: zetigrek Jul 24, 10, 17:38 #72
NorthMancPolak: Mostly Jews, unsurprisingly. In polish textbooks you can find only 6 polish ppl who won the Nobel Prize. My w Polsce nie naciągamy faktów aby się dowartościowywać...

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Jul 24, 10, 17:40 #73
DariuszTelka: Nobody bloody(!) cares about Australian rules football, cricket or whatever you play down there. You obviously know nothing about cricket or its audience.

aphrodisiacThreads: 19 Posts: 3,906 Joined: Apr 15, 09 ♀	Jul 24, 10, 17:41 #74
DariuszTelka: "Aussie Sheila", shows a typical version of the "western" style of demanding things. not really, I know people like that in Poland as well- some people cannot be pleased, nor should they travel at all.

zetigrekThreads: 59 Posts: 2,710 Joined: May 20, 10 ♂	Edited by: zetigrek Jul 24, 10, 17:41 #75
Lyzko: Ernst Boris Chain wrong german born russian jew. Even Scotland has more Nobel prize winners (mostly in science)

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,648 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀	Jul 24, 10, 17:52 #76
AussieSheila: Poland is not a beautiful country when it comes to flora/fauna, physical landcapes In comparison to Australian flora/fauna and their flat-like-a-table-boring-like-hell landscape - Polish one is magnificent. Any sane person would see that. She is a troll obviously. I won't even bother reading the rest.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Jul 24, 10, 17:57 #77
Bzibzioh: their flat-like-a-table-boring-like-hell landscape I wouldn't call rainforests boring or mountains flat table like.

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06 ♂	Edited by: Matyjasz Jul 24, 10, 18:10 #78
time means: I wouldn't call rainforests boring or mountains flat table like. Australia still is a prison though. ;)

Lyzko	Jul 24, 10, 18:12 #79
"Flat"........??????? Ever been to Zakopane? Check out the Tatra Mts. WSPANIAŁY WIDOK!!

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,648 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀	Edited by: Bzibzioh Jul 24, 10, 18:14 #80
time means: I wouldn't call rainforests boring or mountains flat table like. Yeah, one Kościuszko Hill for the whole bloody continent, how exciting! <sarcasm off> Try not to pee in your pants from excitement, buddy... Wroclaw: agreed. there is a lot of truth in the OP's post Well, it's official: PF has an idiot as a moderator.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Jul 24, 10, 18:17 #81
Bzibzioh: Yeah, one Kościuszko Hill for the whole bloody continent A few more than that dear girl. How many rainforests in Poland? How's Canada by the way? Bzibzioh: Try not to pee in your pants from excitement, You have that effect on me :-)

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,648 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀	Edited by: Bzibzioh Jul 24, 10, 18:22 #82
time means: How many rainforests in Poland? Screw rainforest: Bałtyk has no waves! And on PF it is a legitimate complaint about Poland, ya know ...

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Jul 24, 10, 18:25 #83
Bzibzioh: complain about Poland, I like Poland. Anyway i have to go and press my flairs, i have now mastered the "step forward" to "rolling grapevine right" (see my post 57) and i'm off to the pub. I know how you Polish girls love this dance. If only you were there Bzib, i would sweep you off of your feet :-)

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Jul 24, 10, 18:35 #84

Bzibzioh:

In comparison to Australian flora/fauna and their flat-like-a-table-boring-like-hell landscape - Polish one is magnificent

If you go to the Tatry or Beskidy, the scenery is magnificent. If you take your holidays in Skierniawice or Piotrkow, yes, it's boring as hell. The best way to see Poland isn't from a car window on the main trunk roads.

scottie1113:

It's got the most unique Old Town in Poland for a starter

Yes - it's amazing.

delphiandomine:

Hahaha, I know someone who went on holiday to Bradford, I still can't work it out :D

Saltaire is a UNESCO World Heritage site, and Bradford has a thousand Indian restaurants, the National Museum of Film & TV and is on the doorstep of the Yorkshire moors.

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Edited by: Bzibzioh Jul 24, 10, 18:48 #85

time means:

i'm off to the pub. I know how you Polish girls love this dance. If only you were there Bzib, i would sweep you off of your feet :-)

Ok, you are a moron. What else is new?

jonni:

If you go to the Tatry or Beskidy, the scenery is magnificent. If you take your holidays in Skierniawice or Piotrkow, yes, it's boring as hell.

At least it is GREEN everywhere! Not that dry-sandy-dusty-insects-infested view wherever you look.

AussieSheila

Jul 24, 10, 19:02 #86

Danzig? It's got the most unique Old Town in Poland

The so called Old town is so small and insignificant that you can walk through in 5-10 minutes. The rest is just a dump. Most houses and buildings there deserves to be condemend and bulldozed.

90% of the landmass is unsuitable for living

The 10% of landmass suitable for living is still bigger than Poland, and we have just 20+ million people.

poisonous creatures of all sizes and effects..including very deadly

Which made Australia the richest country in the world in terms of flora/fauna and wildlife and made it more exciting than most other countries for nature lovers.

lebanese gangs that gangrape women and beat up everyone they feel like

Please see your crime rate and notoriously violent and infamous hooligans

Nobody bloody(!) cares about Australian rules football, cricket

We played World Cup Soccer in South Africa, you didn't. We rule the world in Rugby, Cricket and Swimming, have more Tennis Grand Slam winners than any other nation in the world except USA! You are a nobody in sports!

How about skiing, sunbathing at beautiful beaches

Our sun baked country won 2 golds at Vancouver, you won 1. Our beaches are the world's finest, and the best place to surf in the world, only rivalled by Hawaii and California.

wild life parks with fantastic fauna and animal life

I visited a zoo in Chorzow and there was no animal that is associated with Poland. I saw a mountain goat grazing near Morskie Oko and thats the only wild animal I saw in Poland.

scottie1113Threads: 10 Posts: 813 Joined: Mar 13, 07 ♂	Jul 24, 10, 19:06 #87
AussieSheila: The most courteous were not surprisingly, employees of Mc Donalds, KFC, Biedronka. The OP thought Biedronka employees were courteous? Did she really visit Poland?

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Edited by: Bzibzioh Jul 24, 10, 19:11 #88

AussieSheila:

The so called Old town is so small and insignificant that you can walk through in 5-10 minutes

Yeah, especially in comparison to, lets say, Melbourne. You are not for real.

The rest of your points are equally not valid. If you are going to another country only to compare with your own and find faults. You are immature and ignorant. Grow up.

scottie1113:

Did she really visit Poland?

Yes, this whole story smells bad. Nobody is THAT stupid.

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Edited by: jonni Jul 24, 10, 19:13 #89

Bzibzioh:

If you are going to another country only to compare with your own and find faults. You are immature and ignorant. Grow up.

Well said.

Poland, for all its pluses and minuses, is an interesting holiday destination.

If you're looking for super friendly service, dirt cheap prices and a beach holiday, go somewhere else. If you're looking for good quality and value together with history, clean pubs and unspoilt countryside, Poland is a good place for a holiday.

No Eiffel Tower, hanging gardens of Babylon or herds of wildebeest sweeping across the Serengeti though.

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Edited by: aphrodisiac Jul 24, 10, 19:16 #90

AussieSheila:

The rest is just a dump. Most houses and buildings there deserves to be condemend and bulldozed.

true, but there is no money for it, so they are staying.

AussieSheila:

The 10% of landmass suitable for living is still bigger than Poland, and we have just 20+ million people.

true Aussie land is 24 times bigger then Poland.

AussieSheila:

Which made Australia the richest country in the world in terms of flora/fauna and wildlife and made it more exciting than most other countries for nature lovers.

true, but Australia was stolen from the natives, so ...............your wealth is was not made in an hones way. Although, as the ancestors of criminals/unruly people you did pretty well.

AussieSheila:

Please see your crime rate and notoriously violent and infamous hooligans

yes, we have some good hooligans in Poland, but.........there is hope for Poland, as there has been for Aussie land:). If you could do it, Poland can built a great country in the future.

AussieSheila:

true

AussieSheila:

Our sun baked country won 2 golds at Vancouver, you won 1.

hey, one belonged to a former Canadian, so it does not count.

AussieSheila:

Our beaches are the world's finest, and the best place to surf in the world, only rivalled by Hawaii and California.

sure, but look at your shoreline- that is not a fair comparison at all.

AussieSheila:

I saw a mountain goat grazing near Morskie Oko and thats the only wild animal I saw in Poland.

thank God he defended Polish honour when you were there.

Anyways, you arguments are somewhat high school like to be honest.

Poland cannot be compared to Australia, since it is Europe, different history, different architecture, different climate and no waves on the Baltic see.

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