Polish Architecture

pawianThreads: 80 Posts: 4,542 Joined: May 30, 08 ♂	Jan 5, 09, 16:17 #61
loco polaco: i find the wooden structures the most unique of all. the other arch. all types are found all over the place outside of PL too.

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Edited by: pawian Jan 5, 09, 16:53 #62

SeanBM:

Correct me if I am wrong but was Warsaw, old town not destroyed by Hitler and then rebuilt with the use of painting, during communism?.

Exactly:

Bellotto`s (also called Canaletto) paintings were used by architects who reconstructed destroyed Warsaw after the war.

However, only the Old City was reconstructed more lor less faithfully under communism. Many 19 century bourgeoisie houses which survived the war were castrated of their ornaments, see the difference:

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Jan 5, 09, 16:58 #63
pawian: Exactly: Wow, that is amazing. I have never seen that before.

PrinceThreads: 26 Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 4, 08 ♂	Edited by: Prince Jan 5, 09, 17:01 #64
wooden houses are typical only in our neighbourhood. Poland: Russia: Sweden: Norway:

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Edited by: ladykangaroo Jan 5, 09, 17:13 #65

SeanBM:

Church of Peter and Paul

On one of the photos you can see the black sculpture on the pedestal outside of the church. That's Piotr Skarga, one of many modern, ugly things which seem to be put in random places, among old buildings, without paying any attention to the way the public space is used by people. Usually the sculptures depict John Paul II, (you might see samples here: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomniki_papie%C5%BCa_Jana_Paw%C5%82a_II ) and next one is probably going to be thrown onto Wawel hill.
That's one of the dark sides of Polish town planning.

SeanBM:

the photos from Plac Szczepański

First two show an art nouveau palace of the Associaton for the Friends of Art, the next two show the theatre. There is also great modern gallery there, called Bunkier Sztuki (Art Bunker).

SeanBM:

piece of art camouflaged in the soot

Soot is not the biggest problem of Kraków buildings, more harm is being made by the acid rains.

Prince:

What are the differences between German and Polish architecture ?

That actually depends of the region. The north of Poland has been deeply influenced by German construction style (the typical for the North brick nogged timber wall is even called the Prussian wall):

(yes, I know it's quite similar to the British half-timbering :) Gorgious samples can be seen in Gdansk, the old city there looks like old Anntwerp. Or Brughes :) )

Prince:

Edward Konieczny is nominated to Mies van der Rohe award 2009

You got it right the second time. Robert Konieczny :)
He was also nominated for the World Architecture Festival Award (the houses category featured the Irish Sleeping Giant as well, too bad none of them won).

SeanBM:

rebuilt with the use of painting

Canaletto's (Bernardo Bellotto's) :)
Warsaw old city looked like that:

There is a nice exposition showing the old / new Warsaw called Miasto Feniksa - War*Saw Eyerything, the shots taken in 1944 during Warsaw Uprising were merged with the present views of the same streets:
http://kultura.wp.pl/gid,10208859,galeria.html?T[page]=1

I don't even know where to start on Polish Architecture, I will need to come back to this topic in some spare moment. With the photos of medieval castles, Polish noblemen's manors (they are copied everywhere across the country and the results can be absolutely great - or truly miserable). With the old and new bridges - I totally love this one:

Warszawa, Most Świętokrzyski, photo by cysio83

... with Kraków I love, with Kazimierz nad Wisłą, with industrial Łódź and good and bad examples of rural houses...

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Jan 5, 09, 17:18 #66
ladykangaroo: I don't even know where to start on Polish Architecture, Fantastic start!.

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Edited by: wildrover Jan 5, 09, 18:58 #67
SeanBM: SeanBM If you come to my place i have a book in Polish all about Polish buildings...it was presented to me by head of childrens foundation...some very nice pics in it....its called ...Polska piekno architektury..by Agnieszka and Wlodek bilinscy....oh and its in English text too...

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Jan 6, 09, 06:34 #68

wildrover:

oh and its in English text too...

Phew! i would not be able to read a book about Polish Architecture for a long long time.
And thank you for your kind offer.

On the corner. Karmelickiej i Batorego you can find Teodor Talowski's house Kamienica Pod Pająkiem, ( Grand old building under the spider).
I don't know why but this is my favourite building in Krakow.
It is asymmetrical, which normally I dislike but some how it balances itself.
I also like the spiders on the doors and the roof, like a fair tale building.

Teodor Talowski (Wiki)

HarryThreads: 59 Posts: 7,994 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂	Jan 6, 09, 11:25 #69
ladykangaroo: WarSaw Eyerything I do wonder where the city of Warsaw finds the morons who write their slogans. We've gone from the dire "Let's Warsaw together" to the banal "WarSaw Eyerything". Why not just be honest and use a slogan like "Warsaw: not as shit as you think!"?

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Jan 6, 09, 11:27 #70
Harry: Warsaw: not as shit as you think!"? lol thats a great selling point

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Edited by: time means Jan 6, 09, 12:29 #71
trying the irfanview. damm too big.

ladykangarooThreads: - Posts: 73 Joined: Jan 2, 09 ♀	Edited by: ladykangaroo Jan 6, 09, 13:59 #72
Try to edit -> resize the photo and then go to "save as" and play with the quality slider to the right, it can save you a lot of disc space. Also, do not save any additional data, eg EXIF, it's a few kb less as well.

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Edited by: SeanBM Jan 7, 09, 10:28 #73

This is my favorite Modern building in Krakow.
Set in amongst the older buildings, in side Planty 2 mins walk from the main market square.
Is this [url=http://www.e-architect.co.uk/poland/krakow_information_centre.htm ]KRAKOW CITY INFORMATION AND EXHIBITION CENTER
THE PAVILION “WYSPIANSKI 2000” [/url]

And just in case you have forgotten, WYSPIANSKI is one of Poland's greatest artists. (but i know you could never do such a thing ;).

Stanisław Wyspiański: "God the Father the Creator" - stained-glass window that can be found adjacent to this THE PAVILION “WYSPIANSKI 2000” in the Franciscian Church in Kraków beside THE PAVILION “WYSPIANSKI 2000”

Also check This thread for new stadiums in Poland. thanks to a very informative poster McCoy.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Jan 7, 09, 10:36 #74
ladykangaroo: ladykangaroo ladykangaroo: Try to edit -> thanks kanga and i will give it a go.

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Edited by: SeanBM Jan 23, 09, 13:21 #75

Krakow was the foggiest I have ever seen it today.
Looked magical/mystical to me.
The architecture lends itself well to the atmosphere of this wonderful city.

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Jan 28, 09, 07:14 #76

'Szlak architektury drewnianej'
There is a 'Wooden Architectural Building trail' here in Małapolska.
(Click here) Here is the site's link with map in English
There are too many buildings to post on here but i did visit one in Rdzawce yesterday.
Since yesterday, it is completely covered in snow :)

PrinceThreads: 26 Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 4, 08 ♂	Jan 28, 09, 07:37 #77
Branicki residency in Białystok

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Jan 28, 09, 07:40 #78
Who is Branicki?. Old money I presume, from nobility?.

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Edited by: McCoy Jan 28, 09, 07:43 #79
not polish architecture, but from Poland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vang_stave_church

PrinceThreads: 26 Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 4, 08 ♂	Edited by: Prince Jan 28, 09, 07:43 #80
SeanBM: Who is Branicki?. Count Jan Klemens Branicki, Great Crown Hetman and patron of art and science. This residency has been build in late 18th century.

PuzzlerThreads: 11 Posts: 1,613 Joined: Mar 21, 07 ♂	Jan 28, 09, 07:46 #81
Prince: Count Jan Klemens Branicki, Great Crown Hetman and patron of art and science - Prince, was he the collaborator with the Russian invaders?

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Jan 28, 09, 07:47 #82
McCoy: not polish architecture, but from Poland: Wow, Relocated from Norway, impressive. Prince: Count Jan Klemens Branicki, Great Crown Hetman and patron of art and science. Wow again, with a name like that he would need to be rich, imagine the size of his business card :)

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Edited by: McCoy Jan 28, 09, 07:49 #83

Zamość was founded in the year 1580 by the Chancellor and Hetman (head of the army of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) Jan Zamoyski, on the trade route linking western and northern Europe with the Black Sea. Modelled on Italian trading cities, and built during the Baroque period by the architect Bernardo Morando, a native of Padua, Zamość remains a perfect example of a Renaissance town of the late 16th century, which retains its original layout and fortifications (Zamość Fortress), and a large number of buildings blending Italian and central European architectural traditions. The Old City quarter of Zamość has been placed on the UNESCO list of World Heritage Sites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamość

PrinceThreads: 26 Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 4, 08 ♂	Jan 28, 09, 07:56 #84
SeanBM: Wow again, with a name like that he would need to be rich, imagine the size of his business card :) :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Łańcut_Castle The Łańcut Castle is a 17th century palace in Łańcut, Poland. It was the home of the noble Polish Pilecki, Stadnicki, Lubomirski, and Potocki families. Currently the castle is the home of a large museum.

time meansThreads: 9 Posts: 2,309 Joined: Apr 21, 08 ♂	Edited by: time means Jan 28, 09, 07:59 #85
bloody picture.

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Edited by: SeanBM Jan 28, 09, 08:00 #86
McCoy: Zamość was founded in the year 1580 The plan of the defensive wall reminds me of the town wall of Nicosia, Cyprus. Venetian city wall, built between 1567 and 1570

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Jan 28, 09, 08:13 #87
SeanBM: The plan of the defensive wall reminds me of the town wall of Nicosia, Cyprus. Yeah, sure. Nicosia was fortified by Venetians in 1567. Its the same period of time and pretty close design.

PrinceThreads: 26 Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 4, 08 ♂	Edited by: Prince Jan 28, 09, 08:19 #88
Raczyński Liblary Poznań http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raczyński_Library_in_Poznań The Raczyński Library was founded by Edward Raczyński (1786-1845) in Poznań

SeanBMThreads: 41 Posts: 8,647 Joined: Mar 10, 08 ♂	Jan 28, 09, 08:21 #89
McCoy: Its the same period of time and pretty close design. Great design for fortification. Prince: Raczyński Liblary Poznań Strange the way the columns only start about half way up, do you know the reason or was it just the fashion of the day?.

PrinceThreads: 26 Posts: 826 Joined: Nov 4, 08 ♂	Edited by: Prince Jan 28, 09, 08:26 #90
Leszczyński palace in France (nancy) And his monument in Nancy polskieradio.pl/krajiswiat/archiwum/TematTygodnia/_images/200707020956 3282.jpg Nancy Leszczyński palace in Poland

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