ARE POLISH NIGHTCLUBS UNSAFE?

rant2012Threads: 4 Posts: 19 Joined: Dec 13, 11 ♀	Dec 20, 11, 14:09 #1
Do you guys think Polish nightclubs are unsafe? After the stairs in my favourite Kitsch collapsed Im starting to wonder about the health and safety standards in pubs and nightclubs....let's face it when we're drunk we don't notice these things and how often do you go to nightclubs completely sober...

splintersoldierThreads: - Posts: 9 Joined: Jun 11, 10 ♂	Dec 20, 11, 19:07 #2
Just like anywhere else in the world, some are some are not. If you are really concerned ask a local building inspector.

beckskiThreads: 19 Posts: 2,148 Joined: May 15, 07 MEMBER ♀	Dec 21, 11, 22:28 #3
rant2012: safety standards in pubs The pubs I had visited in Poland were very modern. I wouldn't have entered a building, looking as though it lacked required safety standards. A sincere thanks PF, for putting up with me FIVE terrific years, muah!

welshguyinpolaThreads: 32 Posts: 463 Joined: Jan 9, 08 ♂	Dec 21, 11, 22:53 #4
If you have ever been to a club called SPATIF in Sopot you would witness total chaos. If there was a fire there, no-one would ever get out. THe fire exits are all blocked and there are so many ppl its unbelieveable. Fire regualtions don't exist in Poland and if they do, they are not enforced

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 21, 11, 23:07 #5
What fire exits? Since when has Spatif had a fire exit?

welshguyinpolaThreads: 32 Posts: 463 Joined: Jan 9, 08 ♂	Dec 21, 11, 23:59 #6
There is one in the back room, where the big round table is. Cant u agree Harry that SPATIF is a deathtrap?

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Dec 22, 11, 01:39 #7
welshguyinpola: Fire regualtions don't exist in Poland and if they do, they are not enforced Oh, they are enforced. The problem is that the regulations can be ignored if the firemaster just so happens to be friends with the owner. An interesting case study for you - examine why hostels aren't bound by hotel fire regulations ;)

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Dec 22, 11, 11:29 #8

delphiandomine:

Oh, they are enforced. The problem is that the regulations can be ignored if the firemaster just so happens to be friends with the owner.

An interesting case study for you - examine why hostels aren't bound by hotel fire regulations ;)

Which means they are not properly enforced. some of the practises here would never be allowed in the UK, I'm talking heaklth and safety, manual handling and food hygiene practises

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Dec 22, 11, 11:53 #9

welshguyinpola:

There is one in the back room, where the big round table is.

There certainly wasn't one there when I used to go to the place twice a week, but that was back in 1996.

welshguyinpola:

Cant u agree Harry that SPATIF is a deathtrap?

Deathtrap is a bit strong. Those stairs aren't exactly safe but I would quite fancy my chances of surviving a jump out of the window at Spatif. I wouldn't fancy my chance of doing it without any injury at all but I have seen that done.

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Edited by: peterweg Dec 22, 11, 12:09 #10

rant2012:

fter the stairs in my favourite Kitsch collapsed Im starting to wonder about the health and safety standards in pubs and nightclubs....let's face it when we're drunk we don't notice these things and how often do you go to nightclubs completely sober...

I was really concerned at the state of the stairs on that night club a few months before they collapsed. The fact is H&S is not taken seriously, an article in Krakow Post quoted a owner as saying a lot of the basement clubs are death traps in a fire - I'd tend to agree.

The problem is that the regulations can be ignored if the firemaster just so happens to be friends with the owner.

leksander Rączka, son of Wielopole 15 owner Jan Rączka, told the newspaper Gazeta Krakowska

“We are very sorry for what happened in our building. However, from our side all the mandatory inspections of the building were made. These showed that the condition of the building was good and that there were no structural defects.”

It was safe becuase we were inspected... typical. I'm not a structural engineer but ancient stone steps in a domestic house with no steel support will eventually break with heavy use.

Thats why the place was not suitable to be used as a night club.

Dublinerdoyle	Dec 26, 11, 01:17 #11
I was in Kitsch in June 2011, No crowd control old cracked staircases, no visible fire exits and not designed for a Night Club I'm surprised this hasn't happened before and nobody has died in that deathtrap.

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