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 Nov 4, 10, 12:15    #211
A J:
Rare? Do they have vampire bats aswell? (Yes, serious question.)

No, they are found in Central American region if my knowledge is right.

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 Nov 4, 10, 12:43    #212
Latin America, yeah. I was just wondering if they somehow managed to migrate.

:)
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 Nov 4, 10, 20:26    #214
Polonia1:
Also does Poland have the largest or oldest wildlife reserve in europe?

I don't think Poland has the biggest but there is a primeval forest Bia³owie¿a Forest (Wiki).

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 Nov 6, 10, 00:15    #215
Half of it is in Poland and half in Belarus....so combined it may be the biggest... its certainly one of the best....
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 Nov 6, 10, 01:33    #216
Polonia1:
Also does Poland have the largest or oldest wildlife reserve in europe?


Bia³owie¿a is considered the oldest reserve in Europe. Unless somebody finds someting more ancient:

The first recorded piece of legislation on the protection of the forest dates to 1538, when a document issued by King Sigismund I the Old instituted the death penalty for poaching a wisent (European bison). King Sigismund also built a new wooden hunting manor in Bia³owie¿a, which became the namesake for the whole forest.

The forest was declared a hunting reserve in 1541 for the protection of wisent.


That's from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bia%C5%82owie%C5%BCa_Forest#History

And I remember reading somewhere, that the last aurochs (tur) was killed some time in the 17th century by poachers in Bia³owie¿a.

Oh, let's do the homework:
The last recorded live aurochs, a female, died in 1627 in the Jaktorów Forest, Poland from natural causes. The skull was later robbed by the Swedish Army during the Swedish invasion of Poland (1655–1660) and is now the property of Livrustkammaren in Stockholm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs


One of the pleasant things in the UK for me was both the similarity of the wildlife here and the subtle differences that made it even more interesting. Foxes on the streets are a sensation in Poland, common thing here. Meeting a stag beetle on a pavement in Bracknell made my day (or my night, as it was), since in Poland they are considered a rare species, and I never saw one ther. Poison hemlock right at my factory's fence made me check and recheck if this is not really a mistake. It wasn't. Tawny owl hooting regularly from the thin stripe of the Tube territory, amongst acres and acres of London suburbs. Bats almost hitting my windows in the London suburb. Rabbits, but no hares...
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Edited by: SeanBM  Nov 8, 10, 21:05    #217
pawian:
My catches:

wearawer

Is that a slug coming out of a shell or slipping out of it's skin like a snake?
I can't make it out.

sdfasf
Where and what is that?

Looks like a half Lobster half shrimp :)

weafwefase
Is that a newt?
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 Nov 8, 10, 21:38    #218
SeanBM:
Is that a slug coming out of a shell or slipping out of it's skin like a snake?

Its 2 slugs making love :D
SeanBM:
Where and what is that?

Its a crayfish in some freshwater.
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Edited by: SeanBM  Nov 8, 10, 22:21    #219
dtaylor5632:
Its 2 slugs making love :D


I think this (click here) is the most sensual non-human cinematography I have ever seen, from the wonderful wildlife documentary Microcosmos.
There is also another one called Makrokosmos - winged migration both French and both extraordinary looks at nature.


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 Nov 8, 10, 22:45    #220
but was i right? :)
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Edited by: SeanBM  Nov 8, 10, 22:46    #221
dtaylor5632:
but was i right? :)

Even a broken clock is right twice a day :)

Just kidding, I am knackered, gonna hit the hay, good night.
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Edited by: SeanBM  Jul 7, 11, 23:05    #222
Stork

The storks, that have been nested on top of people's telephone posts, have grown up so quickly, preparing for their long journey.

It is considered good luck, here in Poland, to have a stork nest on your property, people even buy plastic ones to adorn their houses.

In Ireland, there is an old wives tale, that storks deliver babies by dropping them through the chimney.
Is it the same in Poland?

And I have started smoking again... after three years, the only positive side is I had not had the privilege of seeing the fireflies at night. I know they are only bugs with some kind of phosphorescent on their butts but still, they seem magical to me. And only appear around this time of year.

And I have never seen so many butterflies in my life, as I saw today, there must have been about 50 of the wee fellas. Most were white but others were multicoloured.
And another first, I saw a butterfly with that rainbow, oily, duck neck's thing, that changes colour depending on how the light hits it.
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 Jul 7, 11, 23:09    #223
SeanBM:
And I have started smoking again...

SeanBM:
fireflies at night....they seem magical to me

so... what are you smoking ?
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 Jul 7, 11, 23:14    #224
pgtx:
so... what are you smoking ?

LM :)

Hey, if you are not used to fireflies, they look magical.
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 Jul 7, 11, 23:15    #225
SeanBM:
The storks, that have been nested on top of people's telephone posts, have grown up so quickly, preparing for their long journey.


on Tuesday, I was driving from Koszalin to Warsaw, on route 11, there are so many Stalk nests by the road side, maybe the draw is the number of lakes in the area for food, The stalk bird will always remind me of Poland
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Edited by: SeanBM  Jul 7, 11, 23:18    #226
warszawski:
Stalk

I spelled it this way, tried to google an image in Poland and got "advised" by google to spell it stork.

Are they the same bird? American Vs European spelling?

Wikipedia only has stork and stalking...
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 Jul 7, 11, 23:18    #227
SeanBM:
Hey, if you are not used to fireflies, they look magical.

probably i did already mention it somewhere here, we don't have fireflies in TX, but i was catching them to a jar up north in Michigan...
and every summer when i was a kid in Poland south of Krk... :)
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 Jul 7, 11, 23:21    #228
pgtx:
catching them to a jar

I have seen this done in cartoons ;)
Must look cool when you get enough of them.
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 Jul 7, 11, 23:25    #229
SeanBM:
Must look cool when you get enough of them.

magical, yes :)
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 Jul 7, 11, 23:34    #230
SeanBM:
Are they the same bird? American Vs European spelling?


Looking at the hits, it would seem " stork " is the correct spelling.

While on the subject of animals and insects in Poland, there is a special type of black lice, very common in PL forests, if it gets into your skin, you must go to the hospital ASAP. Anyone know the name of have pictures to show.
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 Jul 8, 11, 01:01    #231
They are ticks and carry lyme disease
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 Jul 8, 11, 03:02    #232
warszawski:
if it gets into your skin, you must go to the hospital ASAP. Anyone know the name of have pictures to show.



They are usually pale green in colour , about one in four of them carry the virus...

If you go into the forest areas you need to check your body to make sure you don,t have any on you , then remove them carefully without leaving the head part in you...putting surgical spirit on the tick , or Vodka if you have nothing else will make the tick release its grip...

Then you need to keep an eye on the bite mark and look out for the bulls eye type red markings around the bite area that will show you have been bitten by an infected tick...

When full of blood they look like a small pea with a cluster of legs and biting bits on one side... you are safe enough if you remove the tick while its still feeding , its when its finished feeding it pumps the white cells back into you , and possibly the virus also...

You don,t feel the thing biting you , so its important to check your body for these things after being in long grass or bushes... These ticks are actually deer ticks , but they will be happy to bite cats , people or dogs .... nasty little critters...
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 Jul 8, 11, 14:01    #233
wildrover:
If you go into the forest areas you need to check your body to make sure you don,t have any on you , then remove them carefully without leaving the head part in you...putting surgical spirit on the tick , or Vodka if you have nothing else will make the tick release its grip...

Not only forest areas. We regularly find ticks on our cat. Gardens have them too. As you say, denatura or something like that does the trick. It gets the tick drunk so it loosens its grip (as we all know). When we come back from mushrooming in the forest we check each other carefully. A friend of mine is a biologist who works in Bia³owie¿a, and he got a tick bite which made him ill for weeks. He had to have a series of injections in his belly. Not at all pleasant. Tourists beware.
alexw68 Edited by: alexw68  Jul 8, 11, 14:11    #234
teflcat:
As you say, denatura or something like that does the trick. It gets the tick drunk so it loosens its grip (as we all know). When we come back from mushrooming in the forest we check each other carefully. A friend of mine is a biologist who works in Bia³owie¿a, and he got a tick bite which made him ill for weeks. He had to have a series of injections in his belly. Not at all pleasant. Tourists beware.

They are bloody EVERYWHERE this year.

Even in the bushes by our central, urban sandpit.

Be careful about the old meths/denaturat trick - avoid it if you can, especially if the tick has been there for a while and has managed to really get embedded. They release their stomach contents into the host's bloodstream in many cases.

My god-daughter went undiagnosed with bruceliosis (?) for 18 months, caught from an infected tick. If the area around the tick bite remains red or grows in the two or three days following a bite, see a doctor sharpish. A short sharp dose of antibiotics specific to bruceliosis should deal with the problem.

Edit: brucelioza = Lyme's disease. Dealing with the issue so often here in PL the English escaped me :)
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 Jul 8, 11, 14:21    #235
alexw68:
If the area around the tick bite remains red or grows in the two or three days following a bite, see a doctor sharpish.


Yes....don,t hang about , the sooner you get treatment for a bite by an infected tick , the better the chance of avoiding long term and possibly permanant illness that can really screw up your life...

I got bitten by one of these little bloodsuckers last year , but thankfully not an infected one...
alexw68  Jul 8, 11, 14:40    #236
alexw68:
Edit: brucelioza = Lyme's disease.

Having a bald moment there. Borelioza.
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Edited by: SeanBM  Jul 9, 11, 22:18    #237
alexw68:
(ticks) They are bloody EVERYWHERE this year.


Yes, two people I know have had three ticks this summer and I have known of no previous cases in all my time here.

Parasites and bacteria is an interesting twist to the wildlife thread.

alexw68:
Be careful about the old meths/denaturat trick - avoid it if you can, especially if the tick has been there for a while and has managed to really get embedded. They release their stomach contents into the host's bloodstream in many cases.

Yes, I just found this out, in Ireland, we use oil to smear on the tick's arse, apparently that's where they bread through, although that could just be a funny way of putting it.
But a recent trip to the doctor's with someone with a tick said they may regurgitate into your blood stream.

As for Lyme disease, this has to be one of the worst descriptions I have read on Wiki, I mean how vague can you get??? :

Signs and symptoms

Lyme disease can affect multiple body systems and produce a range of symptoms. Not all patients with Lyme disease will have all symptoms, and many of the symptoms are not specific to Lyme disease, but can occur with other diseases, as well. The incubation period from infection to the onset of symptoms is usually one to two weeks, but can be much shorter (days), or much longer (months to years). Symptoms most often occur from May through September, because the nymphal stage of the tick is responsible for most cases.[8] Asymptomatic infection exists, but occurs in less than 7% of infected individuals in the United States.[9] Asymptomatic infection may be much more common among those infected in Europe.[10]

Life cycle of a tick:
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*Note to Admin, the above picture will not show because I can't get rid of the space between "life" and the "e". I don't know why.

wildrover:
about one in four of them carry the virus...


Is that true?
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 Jul 9, 11, 22:22    #238
SeanBM:
Life cycle of a tick:



By pure accident, I have run into this page. Some nature lover, a bloodless hunter, shows his pics:
http://karetta.zdjecia.polska.pl/

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Edited by: wildrover  Jul 10, 11, 01:04    #239
SeanBM:
Is that true?



It seems so.... i read it on some science page.....

Before i went on my first trip to Belarus and Russia via the Baltic states i had an injection to prevent tick borne encaphalitus , as i was doing a lot of wild camping in the forests...not a pleasant injection , but not as nasty as the Rabies injection i had...

during my second trip i did not bother with all the injections , but i was a bit more carefull....

Yes if the tick gets distressed it can pump the blood back into you along with any virus , you need to be quick and efficient at removing them....

My cats get them quite often , so i have become expert at removing them just with my fingers...Oh , and if you do touch one of these ticks....wash your hands , you can get something nasty just by touching them...
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 Jul 10, 11, 11:16    #240
SeanBM:
Is that a newt?


I know the question is age old - but not it's not a newt it's just a common type of lizard 'jaszczurka' (there are three native species of lizards in Poland but one is not at all common (jaszczurka zielona = european green lizard)


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