Racism in Poland (at Gdansk airport)

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Aug 28, 09, 08:23 #91

Traveling is stressful....trying to pack, make it to the airport, find parking, checking luggage, getting to the gate, boarding....

It's exhausting! I don't think passengers should be held for an excessive amount of time (enough to cause a missed flight) without reason!

Rules are rules, and security is important, but that can be enforced with a modicum of respect and courtesy. Europe (at least most of it) is not on a Third World standard!

atombomber	Aug 28, 09, 11:05 #92
i'm from poland an can only confirm: polish people are racist as hell. but as no one wants to visit poland nobody cares.

afropolakThreads: - Posts: 8 Joined: Jul 6, 09 ♂	Jan 6, 10, 04:52 #93
Jihozapad sure you must be a racist yourself or a drunkard probably ACCEPT IT YOU ARE ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!! Read LATINOUSA's post and that says it all. Colored people are treated badly in that country. There is racist in other countries but the one in Poland and other Eastern European countries is just stupidity... I have no idea why...and polish people are everywhere...

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Jan 6, 10, 05:04 #94

afropolak:

Colored people are treated badly in that country.

I am sorry, but I have met more dark-skinned racists (me included) than white-skinned ones.

afropolak:

There is racist in other countries but the one in Poland and other Eastern European countries is just stupidity...

Why? aren´t they allowed to be racist? you´re such a racist!

afropolak:

i'm from poland an can only confirm: polish people are racist as hell. but as no one wants to visit poland nobody cares.

They are just proud of their country.

Grzegorz_Threads: 80 Posts: 6,103 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Jan 6, 10, 10:16 #95
afropolak: Colored people are treated badly in that country. Yawn...

Hopeguy

Jan 12, 10, 17:32 #96

I'm a black spanish student, and i was thinking to visit poland... I have a friend of mine, studying in warsaw thanks to an erasmus grant... And i really like the looks of krakow, warsaw, etc.. I have a polish friend here in Madrid, and she is a very enjoyable girl... but it seems that i wrongly thinked that Polish people were kindly people, due to the comments that i have readed here...

I'm so disappointed, and very sad... because this makes people hates each other...
Be proud of your country? yes, but it has nothing to do with anger, hate, and fear...
Like a famous spanish writer said: "The nationalist believes that the birthplace is the best place in the world, and that's not true. The Patriot believes that the birthplace deserve all the LOVE in the world and it is certain" - Camilo Jose Cela

I still like your land...maybe, one day, you want to share it with someone else...

Steve.

convexThreads: 47 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jan 12, 10, 17:47 #97
Hopeguy: I still like your land...maybe, one day, you want to share it with someone else... Come over and see it for yourself and make a decision based on your experience. It'll cost you €100 and a day or two of your time. Isn't that neat? with things like Ryanair and cheap hostels, you can literally check it out yourself for practically no money.

vetalaThreads: - Posts: 512 Joined: Jul 10, 09 ♀	Jan 12, 10, 18:05 #98
Hopeguy You judge the whole country based on a handful of comments you read on the internet? Isn't that sort of... racist?

McCoyThreads: 46 Posts: 1,755 Joined: Jul 3, 08 ♂	Jan 12, 10, 18:20 #99
Hopeguy: I still like your land...maybe, one day, you want to share it with someone else... we already did. with gerries, austrains and russians. that was enough

convexThreads: 47 Posts: 7,189 Joined: Nov 25, 09 ♂	Jan 12, 10, 18:26 #100
McCoy: we already did. with gerries, austrains and russians. that was enough lets not forget the Swedes

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1,439 Joined: Jul 13, 09 ♂	Jan 12, 10, 18:35 #101
convex: lets not forget the Swedes ... and nowadays the Brits ... ;)

BrutalButcherThreads: 1 Posts: 623 Joined: Nov 10, 09 ♂	Jan 12, 10, 18:37 #102
Hopeguy: I'm a black spanish student, That must cause you lots of grief in Spain.

Wroclaw BoyThreads: 56 Posts: 5,264 Joined: Jul 3, 09 MEMBER ♂	Jan 13, 10, 17:06 #103
TheOther: convex: lets not forget the Swedes ... and nowadays the Brits ... ;) were only here because we married Polish chicks. Damn it.

Mr GrunwaldThreads: 34 Posts: 2,354 Joined: Dec 16, 08 ♂	Edited by: Mr Grunwald Jan 14, 10, 00:24 #104
convex: lets not forget the Swedes They barked in and got kicked out... Wroclaw Boy: were only here because we married Polish chicks. Damn it See? The Polish women is astounding :)

allaccess1

Apr 17, 10, 20:18 #105

I am black and hold a British passport.

I have visited over 50 countries for work and holidays and have conducted extensive research on racism in many countries.

There is racism everywhere including black and Asian countries but the worst places I have seen it is in Eastern Europe, my visit to Poland on 3 occasions were met with hostility and clear racism during passport control and on the streets, infact on the last occasion an English couple had to intervene after I started screaming at the immigration guy. on 3 occasions they passed everyone with EU passports and when it came to my turn they pretended to be checking some computer system which I am sure revealed the passport is genuine. It is a new UK E-passport and difficult to forge or change. I could see they knew it was real but found it hard to accept and allow a black European citizen the same rights as whites!

You could see the clear hostility on the faces of customs when dealing with non-white people and you attracted a lot of angry looks if you walk on the streets with a white girl. On 2 occasions some poles have asked the girl I was with what she saw in a black man and if her parents know. She had told them, yes and he is more educated and has more going for him than all of you put together!

There is not enough space here to write my experiences in Eastern Europe; they have the largest number of semi-literate, backward, primitive, idiotic and plank-headed people on the face of the earth. I had to ask several police officers and immigration people at the airport how did Poland ever make it into the EU, what criteria was used? Were they properly rehabilitated and educated and made aware the EU is a multicultural society?

I have polish people in London cleaning my flat and most people who work for me in dirty jobs are East European and I have never tried to discriminate or abuse them. Why can some of them live in civilised countries yet not practice the same in their home countries?

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Edited by: Amathyst Apr 17, 10, 21:27 #106
allaccess1: I have visited over 50 countries for work and holidays and have conducted extensive research on racism in many countries. Cry me a river and take that chip off your shoulder. Try being white and Christan and going to UEA - our guys at work get their lap tops opened and searched! Female enginering staff are not allowed on sites...and you get pissed of because someone looks at you?

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Edited by: MareGaea Apr 17, 10, 21:32 #107

allaccess1:

I have polish people in London cleaning my flat

Don't know why, but I find this a very amusing remark. The most glorious ppl of the world are cleaning a black man's flat? Outrageous :)

But on a serious note, all of my Polish exes always started their ranting about black ppl with following line (and it seems that all racist remarks start with this line): "I'm not a racist, but...." Also, their families were nice ppl, but when it came to coloured ppl, they were relentless.

On an even more serious note: it's generally known that Eastern Europeans are on the whole more racist than Western Europeans. But there are of course exceptions as exceptions do he proverbial rule. I think that this is because they are a bit behind the West as where integration and social emancipation is concerned. They are simply not used to different coloured ppl than we are in the West.

Amathyst:

Cry me a river and take that chip off your shoulder. Try being white and Christan and going to UEA - our guys at work get their lap tops opened and searched! Female enginering staff are not allowed on sites

Yeah, but that's not racist, Shelley, that's sexist :)

>^..^<

M-G (tiens, tiens)

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Edited by: Amathyst Apr 17, 10, 21:43 #108
MareGaea: it's generally known that Eastern Europeans are on the whole more racist than Western Europeans. What you mean is they have not been exposed and its more about xenophobia . There are pletnty of racists in the UK, becauase we are over run with blacks.

BzibziohThreads: 6 Posts: 3,648 Joined: Oct 15, 08 ♀	Apr 17, 10, 21:45 #109
allaccess1: Were they properly rehabilitated How that proper rehabilitation should look like?

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Apr 17, 10, 21:47 #110

Amathyst:

There are pletnty of racists in the UK, yet we are over run with blacks.

Of course there are racists in the UK as well as in NL, even though we too have our fair share of black ppl. Some ppl are racist out of ignorance, others because of xenophobia or simply unfamiliarity. One doesn't exclude the other, in Eastern Europe I think it's more the unfamiliarity than anything else.

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M-G (gaszka kaszka)

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Apr 17, 10, 21:51 #111
MareGaea: Some ppl are racist out of ignorance, Oh right, all racists are ignorant...lol..sorry to give you a wake up call, but there are more racists in the UK now than ever before and most are not ill educated prigs..they are quite the opposite!

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Apr 17, 10, 21:56 #112

Amathyst:

Oh right, all racists are ignorant...lol..sorry to give you a wake up call, but there are more racists in the UK now than ever before and most are not ill educated prigs..they are quite the opposite!

I said some racists are ignorant. Hm, educated racists...Should be a condradictio in terminis...As most educated ppl would know that it makes no sense to reject ppl based on their skin colour, yet they do?

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M-G (takes person per person, not group by group)

TheOtherThreads: 4 Posts: 1,439 Joined: Jul 13, 09 ♂	Apr 17, 10, 21:56 #113
Amathyst: but there are more racists in the UK now than ever before How many Poles moved to Britain once again? :) Just kidding...

wildroverThreads: 180 Posts: 8,143 Joined: Jun 7, 07 ♂	Apr 17, 10, 22:17 #114
allaccess1: I have polish people in London cleaning my flat and most people who work for me in dirty jobs are East European That must make you feel very superior....??

AdamKadmon	Apr 17, 10, 22:24 #115
There are two kinds of racism, offensive one with prominent representatives such as: Sir Francis Galton Houston Stewart Chamberlain Julius Streicher and defensive one - racism of victims, mostly anonymous, common people infected with it, Poles and others.

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Apr 17, 10, 22:42 #116
atombomber: but as no one wants to visit poland What planet might you be on?

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Apr 18, 10, 01:35 #117

I´d like to ask the people here if they really believe there is such a thing as different human races. As far as I know, there is only one race: The human one. Skin colour, head shape and other kinds of features don´t determinate a human´s nature, but the way and the place he is raised in. Moreover cultures play an important role in a person´s development. You may take 2 Germans and let them grow in africa, be raised by a tribe of Sulus and they´d end up being like them, despite of the children´s European ancestry.

That said, what we call racism is nothing more than a mechanism of self-defense. Same as when your parents told you not to trust strangers,you are free not to trust people from cultures you either don´t know or have known and haven´t liked.

As long as this racism isn´t violent, I see no reason to make a big deal out of it. Like there were 100% tolerant humans out there. Being "racist" is part of our human nature.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,898 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Edited by: Amathyst Apr 18, 10, 02:45 #118
AdamKadmon: and defensive one - racism of victims, mostly anonymous, common people infected with it, Poles and others. And those that dont want 3rd world immigrants infecting thier country..most of the new AIDS cases in the uk come from Africa..who is paying for it?

AdamKadmon	Apr 18, 10, 10:52 #119
Racism is as much a disease as AIDS is. You are happy not being on the receiving end of it.

BevKThreads: 18 Posts: 281 Joined: Mar 20, 09 ♀	Apr 18, 10, 11:03 #120
AdamKadmon: Racism is as much a disease as AIDS is. You are happy not being on the receiving end of it. With respect this is one of the most stupid things I have ever ever heard. It's an intellectual choice to be racist. AIDS is an infectious disease (perhaps you make lifestyle choices that put you more at risk). Stating the bleedin obvious aside, it is just a bad parallel to draw.

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