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Edited by: Lukasz Mar 17, 08, 06:21 #1

http://talkingbear.typepad.com/blog/2006/09/stag_parties_in.html

This week I'll be taking a look at bar tourism in Kraków, Poland's southern party capital, where every week-end beer and culture come together in the same sentence, and tourists and residents alike go out on the town.

Moving back to Poland, stag parties are creating havoc for bartenders around the country. Or are they? The reactions in Kraków have been mixed to the onslaught of drunk Englishmen, but not everyone's complaining all the time, as a visit to some of Kraków's bars showed.

“They come in tours, they come every week, they visit us starting Friday and finishing Sunday. They take, I call it ‘tourism drinking’, because they start Friday evening, they visit pub by pub, restaurant by restaurant, but generally, they come here, because we are a kind of pub, this is not a restaurant, this is a place to drink.”

“They come here to have fun in Kraków, I think, they are young people, they got free week-ends and they need to do something with it. There were years when Prague was very popular, there were years when Budapest was popular, right now it’s Kraków, it’s normal, so they are coming here to have fun, so I think they are very happy, actually.”

“I don’t want to use hard words, but they don’t behave here, they are not very polite, I think that they come here to have a nice party, but they do a little bit of a mess. They want to make signs on the doors that Englishmen are not allowed, because they don’t want to serve beer and other strong alcohol for them because after a couple of shots and a couple of beers, they behave like animals. They are drunk all the time, and then they go back to their place, that’s all. And I don’t like such types of tourists coming to Kraków.”

“Well, I was sitting next to one of the members of the stag parties itself, and I have to say he seemed the most affable of gentlemen, and he seemed to be coming to a country with more than the intention of drinking himself silly.”

Others expats living in Kraków mention that they feel embarrassed about the situation, thinking that the Brits that come here give them a bad name.

11 pm and the Rynek is packed with drinkers. Amongst them is a group of Brits on a stag party – the main culprit is wearing nothing but a pair of leather shorts, saying that he is in Poland to be punished…

I have posted one of my favourite pictures. ;-)

finaly not all tourists are behaving like ... some are here to see something or learn something.

DaisyThreads: 16 Posts: 2,172 Joined: Apr 28, 07 ♀	Mar 17, 08, 06:28 #2
Unfortunately Lukasz, these people have always existed and they are in the minority Before cheap air travel, they invaded British seaside resorts.....I grew up in a seaside holiday town and stag parties would turn up in buses..........we hated them, they would cause trouble and damage and make it very unpleasant for local people to go out in their own town Perhaps we should cull them

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Edited by: Lukasz Mar 17, 08, 06:55 #3

This year law has changed in Krakow and it is less liberal, situation is still better than in Prague and Krakow preferes rather to be cultural capital of Poland than ... as I know there will be special security in old market to hold everything in order ... normal tourists will have easier life, citizens will be more "relaxed" and I think most of English people will be happy when some group of people will stop destroing their reputation.

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Mar 17, 08, 07:10 #4

Lukasz wrote:

This year law has changed in Krakow and it is less liberal

Excellent !

My Polish friend who lives in Krakow told me, when I first came to Poland in June 2007, how annoying those people were. I'm glad there was repression against the phenomenen. Indeed, when I came back last Ferbuary I saw less of these ********.

My God, "to go to another country and party because the beer is cheaper" really tells a lot on the kind of people who do that. And it often goes together with "their girls are easy". WRONG.

rafikThreads: 21 Posts: 740 Joined: Jun 22, 06 ♂	Mar 17, 08, 07:15 #5
Lukasz wrote: finaly not all tourists are behaving like ... some are here to see something or learn something. what is he trying to learn? i think that he just put his willy in this bin and pretend to be leonardo di caprio in "titanic"

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Edited by: Lukasz Mar 17, 08, 07:33 #6

There is one problem in Krakow, it isn't so easy to buy drugs on streets, in Prague it is very easy.

In Prague sex-business in much more developed ...

Now the law will be more strict, I hope this kind of people will just come back to Prague or move somewhere ealse. 2 seasons is enought. Krakow will be capital of Polish culture and more sophisticated tourists will enjoy it. What is important people have learned how to react ...

rafik wrote:

what is he trying to learn?

I have been talking about normal people, who came here to teach English, they like Krakow, they enjoy its heritage... not about this dumb guy form pic.

as I know Poles like to go to Lwow to have a party for resonable money, as I know nobody complains there.

Finaly I think this 2 years episode goes to the end (I hope so)

ShelleySThreads: 18 Posts: 3,647 Joined: Jun 26, 07 ♀	Mar 17, 08, 07:45 #7
rafik wrote: i think that he just put his willy in this bin and pretend to be leonardo di caprio in "titanic" ROLF... The English are well known for getting their kit off in public, the first bit of sunshine and thats it...it all comes off... As long as the message goes out strong and clear that bad behaviour will not be tolerated, then it will be all good

panienkaThreads: 2 Posts: 215 Joined: Mar 4, 08 ♀	Mar 17, 08, 08:00 #8
yes, i have heard it often and have seen it also on TV. Sad but real. Some of them make a lot of mess in pubs, others are walking along the street naked... and then pay for every damage to make the owner silent. Lukasz wrote: finaly not all tourists are behaving like ... some are here to see something or learn something. of course :)

penfold23	Mar 21, 08, 15:21 #9
7 of us are coming to cracov 28/04 for 3 days and need a few ideas what to get up too

Filios1Threads: 15 Posts: 1,953 Joined: Nov 13, 07 ♂	Mar 21, 08, 15:22 #10
penfold23 wrote: 7 of us are coming to cracov 28/04 for 3 days and need a few ideas what to get up too YES. Don't go to Krakow. Hopefully some of my former friends over there will be around to crack your skulls if you start acting like typical drunk Western twats.

SouthOfDaThamesThreads: - Posts: 96 Joined: Mar 9, 08 ♀	Mar 21, 08, 15:38 #11
Lukasz wrote: Now the law will be more strict, I hope this kind of people will just come back to Prague or move somewhere ealse. If only they would go and try it in Riyadh or somewhere like that :)

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Mar 21, 08, 15:52 #12

Lukasz wrote:

normal tourists will have easier life, citizens will be more "relaxed" and I think most of English people will be happy when some group of people will stop destroing their reputation.

Very true Lukasz. I have been visiting Kraków to family for more than 25 years and watched as fast food outlets and even a sex shop on Ulica Florianska opened business and unwittingly damaged the reputation of the old central city.
Now I am disheartened when people who I work with laugh about their visits for the cheap beer and prostitutes.
They show no respect, yet demand respect from others by threat of violence.
Maybe that if they were told to pay double or treble price, then they will go to Włoch na przykład

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Mar 21, 08, 16:03 #13

I'm going to a mate's stag party in a couple of weeks. Rather sensibly, we chose Milton Keynes for the skydiving-simulator and St. Albans for the pubs. I'll save going to Krakow for another time. That is partly because we are sensible people, partly because none of us have any money, and partly because I'd rather go to Krakow on my own and not with a bunch of p!ssheads. Then I'd get a chance to see what there is to see there.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Mar 21, 08, 16:31 #14
U can earn money by letting people ride u round the market square Osioł. Put ur skills 2 good use

panienkaThreads: 2 Posts: 215 Joined: Mar 4, 08 ♀	Mar 21, 08, 17:57 #15
Seanus wrote: Seanus hah i love this post

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Mar 21, 08, 17:59 #16
Thx, I need to wind him up. Expect Donkey boy near u soon

HarryThreads: 62 Posts: 8,508 Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended]	Mar 21, 08, 18:01 #17
Poland has this wonderful institution called the Drunk Tank. Perhaps if local police were a little more willing to use this for foreigners, the problem would be solved!

SouthOfDaThamesThreads: - Posts: 96 Joined: Mar 9, 08 ♀	Mar 24, 08, 17:28 #18
Seanus wrote: U can earn money by letting people ride u round the market square Osioł. Put ur skills 2 good use Michał could push them around in that Tesco trolley and show them the sights:)

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Mar 24, 08, 17:28 #19
Now that's gainful employment

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Mar 25, 08, 15:02 #20

Well I'm on my second visit to Krakow next month and hopefully the dickheads will be few and far between. Last time the weather was not so good for taking off clothes (although it would have perhaps stopped the idiots breeding)

I think the authorities need to get tough or lose the well-behaved tourists. Dublin discovered this some time ago.

I drank my fair share last year in Poland but hopefully managed to enhance the UK reputation rather than reinforce the stereotype.

I must admit I do like to stay away from places where the English or Americans dominate. Something good about being the only foreigner in the place.

And if any stag people want to ruin my sleep at the hotel, they'll need some good health insurance!

SouthOfDaThamesThreads: - Posts: 96 Joined: Mar 9, 08 ♀	Mar 25, 08, 19:06 #21
Raskolnikov wrote: I think the authorities need to get tough or lose the well-behaved tourists When I was there, I behaved myself! And what's more, I never spoke a word of English either... so there goes the stereotype of British tourists in Poland! lol :) mind you, being a non-drinking English-born Pole does mean I cheated a little. <g> :)

Grzegorz_Threads: 81 Posts: 6,213 Joined: Nov 16, 06 ♂	Mar 25, 08, 19:23 #22
Some people make a living robbing these clowns.

SouthOfDaThamesThreads: - Posts: 96 Joined: Mar 9, 08 ♀	Mar 25, 08, 19:35 #23
Grzegorz_ wrote: Some people make a living robbing these clowns. Good luck to them, I say

MatyjaszThreads: 2 Posts: 1,786 Joined: Jul 20, 06 ♂	Mar 26, 08, 02:43 #24
Yet, we cannot deny them their good sense of humor. Lukasz wrote: 11 pm and the Rynek is packed with drinkers. Amongst them is a group of Brits on a stag party – the main culprit is wearing nothing but a pair of leather shorts, saying that he is in Poland to be punished… That one was hilarious. :)

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Mar 26, 08, 04:13 #25

Grzegorz_ wrote:

Some people make a living robbing these clowns

and some people like weeing on them too ;-)

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Since the arrival of cheap flights and the discovery by the masses that Eastern Europe has cheap beer its attracted these idiots....you cant avoid them no matter how far you get away from the centre, they seem to penetrate every square inch, I have to say it wasnt the English or the kilt wearing Scots I had a problem with when i was in Krakow it was the pervy loud Italians...ewwwww

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Matyjasz wrote:

Yet, we cannot deny them their good sense of humor.

We can question their dress sence though...No?

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Apr 23, 08, 12:45 #26

Hi there, my first post! It's reading stuff like this that worries me about stereotyping, though I can fully understand why. I am off to Krakow on a stag do in a couple of weeks. There will be 16 of us, ages 35-40ish, I have read elsewhere on the internet that there is a crackdown on British Stag groups in Krakow, for example some pubs and clubs not letting all male British groups in. Again I can understand this as there is an obvious British culture when it comes to drinking and being overly rowdy.

This will be my fourth visit, the last two with my girlfriend and a month ago. I absolutely love the city and cant get enough of the culture (and great food!). Hoping to explore the Jewish Quater a bit more this time.

The worry that I have is how we will get on in Krakow and how many places wont let us in. We are not into wearing the same t-shirts/shirts, getting too drunk, upsetting locals etc. The first time we came (6 of us) we thoroughly enjoyed the restaurants, trips out and taking in as much culture as we could. I'm armed with a number of guides and planning on visiting some museums, especially the Archaeology one, couldnt find it last time! To be honest it would be nice to avoid the other British stags there.

Will we get barred from places for just being British (which I've seen mentioned) or if we were simply too plastered (which could be any nationality and something we dont do anyway)? Any recommendations for bars and restaurants that will accept a group of 16?

I'm hoping to book a large table at the Wierzynek restaurant, been there each time I've been and love it.

Thanks for any advice given,

Mike

IronsE11Threads: 2 Posts: 799 Joined: Mar 3, 08 ♂	Apr 23, 08, 13:01 #27
mikejd72: Thanks for any advice given, Make sure you don't look like your enjoying yourself too much. It has been known to upset the locals.

PolskaDollThreads: 44 Posts: 4,134 Joined: Jun 15, 07 ♀	Apr 23, 08, 13:33 #28
mikejd72: There will be 16 of us, ages 35-40ish, It's quite a large group but your age group should favour you. I'd imagine that you won't have much problems unless you plan on being loutish :) It's really the drunken, disorderly "younger" stag parties that they are cracking down on. I imagine if you are planning a meal and then some drinks it will be fine. :)

inkrakow

Apr 23, 08, 14:16 #29

You're better off sticking to the irish pubs that are used to accepting such large groups of men - the Irish Embassy, Irish Arms etc. I read in the local paper a few weeks ago that the local restaurateurs and bar owners are not going to serve people who are 'inappropriately' dressed, and the police are going to clamp down on nakedness in public. Shame they weren't around last Saturday on the Rynek when I saw one tosser doing naked star jumps while his mates cheered him on from the bar...

IronsE11Threads: 2 Posts: 799 Joined: Mar 3, 08 ♂	Apr 23, 08, 14:24 #30
inkrakow: I saw one tosser doing naked star jumps while his mates cheered him on from the bar... Ironic how the British are known for being prudes! Still, unacceptable behaviour imo.

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