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U.S. Missile Base in Poland----Your thoughts?


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 24, 07, 13:28  #121

Of course, that is mistake. NATO is mistake, too.

That is business with devil.


Example… In 1999 via NATO bombing attack…together, with Turks and Germans (what a mind blowing concept ) Poland was involved in devastation of Serbia (100 mlrd $ damage). Slavic South is now weaker then ever. Non-Slavs strengthen, Islam strengthen on Balkan, new Islamic states were created and new is on the way (Graeter Albania). One legal Serbian state was destroyed (Serb Krajina). Greater Croatian hegemony (read German puppet state) was created and continues to spread and strengthen. Germans now controls Adriatic see. Serbs are refuges in their own land, not to mention that Serbs suffered because of economic sanctions, isolation and absolutely abnormal propaganda war.

Now, tell me what Polish peasant (any citizen) have with all this? One word- NOTHING, except consequences. When devil Germanize and feed themselves with South Slavs, he won’t stop. He would turn his greedy eyes in direction of Poland. In direction of Russia, too.

Both of you, my brothers- both of you (Russia and Poland) failed greatly and sold us in your failure. Polish politicians choose to ride with devil and Russian politicians probably achieved great profits from deal called- Sell South Slavs to Germans, to Muslims and to scum of this world. How much Russian get from this deal? I hope that they didn’t sell as cheaply.

From democracy, my brothers, you should take best- not worse.


Why my brothers, you work on our and on your own destruction? Is it come the day that Slavic word need to died and Slavs to extinct? Is it come the day when fathers would sell future of their children?

Is that life? Is that West?

No, it’s not West. West are we who still resist!


I am aware that selfishness of Russian politicians contributed to wrong choices of Poland, sometimes. Also, maybe, sometimes selfishness of Polish politicians contributed to historic mistakes of Russia but, ENOUGH, please. It is ultimate moment that Slavs start to work together, instead to masochistic destruct their own civilization. Civilization of last native Whites (Europoids).

Once, Slavs were glorious. Our ancestors spread secret of agriculture (and many other fundamental things for existence of civilization) all around Europe and further. We were great. Then, our ancestors were defeated, enslaved and they lose rhythm with progress.

Slavs were great and we can be great once again but, ONLY TOGATHER. Only if we work together and, if we are ready to support and to understand each others.


Be yourself, no matter what THEY say. Be Slav, walk with dignity.

Don’t give up!

Don’t make last and ultimate mistake- both of you, Russians and Poles. Forget to target one another with `A` bomb. We are all doomed, if come to that.


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 24, 07, 13:45  #122

Quoting: krysia


rsz_9_519.jpg

Yes, that is real face of false West- the world of Matrix.

I noticed on that picture Slavic woman and those others aren`t Slavs, I see. Where is Slavic man in all THAT.

THEY see Slavic woman in THEIR world but, Slavic males aren`t part of their plans. Well maybe just to be cannon foders and best for use against other Slavs.


Ludilo


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Grzegorz_
  Feb 24, 07, 13:45  #123

To hell with "brothers" like Russians.


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Crow
Edited by: Crow  Feb 24, 07, 14:06  #124

Quoting: Grzegorz_
To hell with "brothers" like Russians.

Serbs are angry at Russian, too but we still believe in ordinary Russians (they are good Slavs) who regularly were/are biggest victims of their own cruel elite which sold Slavic interests to false West.

Also, we hope that Poland can recognize German schemes and start openly to support Serbia. To help us, you Poles and Russians need to work togather. Slavic foes are already united and sronger then ever.


Brothers or ``Brothers``, mother is the same. Who are we to make new wounds on heart of Mother Slavia.

Forgive them, give chance to Russians, as we Serbs offering our hands to both of you.


Come to us brothers and sisters, in time of our need. What would Russians without you? What would you without Russians? What would Serbs without their brothers and sisters?


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minotaurus [Guest]
  Feb 28, 07, 02:21  #125

Quoting: Crow
Brothers or ``Brothers``, mother is the same. Who are we to make new wounds on heart of Mother Slavia.


enough of this thrash.all people are brothers.my best friend is in asylium,he's from Nigeria.I have friends in serbia,in voivodina.students who are little more open minded than you.man,you are pure poison.

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Crow
  Mar 9, 07, 14:36  #126

Quoting: minotaurus
enough of this thrash.all people are brothers.my best friend is in asylium,he's from Nigeria.I have friends in serbia,in voivodina.students who are little more open minded than you.man,you are pure poison.






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Patrycja19
  Mar 9, 07, 23:43  #127

Quoting: Ranj
Russia has very frankly communicated its unhappiness to us regarding the prospect of the U.S.


This really eats at me, WHY?? cause Russian Govt dont want Poland to have power
that is why!! and if they do this, it makes their bond stronger with the U.S.

Russia dont make
many friends (govt wise) , if they stopped being so selfish for once, maybe they
could have sponsored something like this. I dont know what they are all worried
about , unless they still have doubts about peace, they shouldnt even be concerned
with polands talks on missle bases.

my only concern again is terrorists, but I would guess they will be heavily guarded
it would bring some money in for poland for sure. but it is time to buckle down
for poland , no one wants this in their back yard, but the truth is, times are not
the same and one way or another this will be needed later on.


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Patrycja19
  Mar 9, 07, 23:51  #128

Quoting: Patrycja19
they shouldnt even be concerned
with polands talks on missle bases.


Polands suffered enough crap in the past, speaking of brothers and sisters.

no one cared back then, now they do? talk peace, yet, hmmm I will tell poland
we are mad and this could upset us, stop!! stop stop!!

stop trying to control Poland!!


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Patrycja19
  Mar 10, 07, 00:03  #129

[quote=Crow] Of course, that is mistake. NATO is mistake, too.

no one wants war, but personally, I would want poland backing me up
as I dont see much help coming from Russians seeing how they try to
make America not look so appealing and I sense distrust from the govt everytime
something pops up on TV about Russian and United states involvment.


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polish pride [Guest]
  Mar 16, 07, 15:34  #130

i could'nt agree with you more soothsayer. If poles felt the mongols, russians and nazis were bad wait till the blacks of the United States military invade Poland.

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FISZ
Edited by: FISZ  Mar 16, 07, 16:05  #131

Quoting: polish pride
blacks of the United States military invade Poland.

You are so dillusional. One of our very own corn fed rednecks


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euramico [Guest]
  Mar 16, 07, 17:14  #132

the polish economy is taking shape, it seems. thanks to billions of pounds pouring into the country from poles working in Britain and the massive aid in euros from the EU. so when will the corrupt polish politicians think more european than american. until yesterday they were serving the KGB today the CIA and the criminal gang in the white house. there isn't even a single decent motorway in that country and yet they're planning a deal with the US to purchase fighter jets costing billions of dollars!! and now they are preoccupied with this missile base thing to satisfy their masters in America. so can the poles once for all do away with the inferiority complex they have towards the americans and learn to say 'no' once in their lives.

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ArturSzastak
  Mar 16, 07, 17:18  #133

I say Poland should keep to itself. The culture will be ruined if we integrate with others and get involved with other countries' business. I seriously think we should not be in Afghanistan right now, or Iraq for that matter.


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polish pride [Guest]
  Mar 17, 07, 00:39  #134

dillusional? The United States military already has said they will be running the missile base if it is built, not Poles.

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Chenzo [Guest]
  Mar 17, 07, 15:36  #135

Quoting: ArturSzastak
The culture will be ruined if we integrate with others and get involved with other countries' business.


I agree with this sentence at least.

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Maxxx Payne
  Mar 17, 07, 16:33  #136

Quoting: ArturSzastak

I say Poland should keep to itself. The culture will be ruined if we integrate with others and get involved with other countries' business. I seriously think we should not be in Afghanistan right now, or Iraq for that matter.



Integration doesnīt mean culture will be ruined. That happens in assimilation such as Soviet Union.

Polish are doing good job in NATO, they are not afraid going to hot spots such as Iraq or Afghanistan. I wish my country had guts as much as Poland


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miranda
  Mar 17, 07, 16:40  #137

Maax,

I wouldn't say that it has anything to do with having guts.
GDP per head in Poland is $9,840
Finland is $45,020


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Maxxx Payne
  Mar 17, 07, 16:44  #138

^that just proves my point. Poles are not hesitating taking part of the job even with their current GDP per head.


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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Mar 17, 07, 16:47  #139

they are taking the job, because thair economy is not sufficient enough to say NO.
Another factor is Poland's identity crsis. Cannot decide if they are eastern or western/pro-american/antiamerican so they are sitting on the fence.


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Maxxx Payne
  Mar 17, 07, 16:50  #140

Do you mean Poland is getting financial aid from US for going to Afghanistan and Iraq ?
I donīt see how otherwise it would be beneficial for Polish economy going there.


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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Mar 17, 07, 16:53  #141

Poland is not economically strong. Therefore has no cards to play in the political game. Has little bargening power. USA doesn't have to pay, but I am sure perks come in different form and shape, not neccessarily financial. Common.

Poland ownes a lot of money borrowed in the 80's from the IMF and WB - so perhaps negotiating lower interest rates with the bankers could be one of the leads here.

Listen, I am speculating here, but so is everybody else on this thread,


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Maxxx Payne
  Mar 17, 07, 17:00  #142

^mmmm maybe ...But I still think it is more because Poland feels it has to fight against terrorism, Polish have experiences of the previous tyranny, communism. They donīt want anything similar again.

/listening to Silver Threads & Golden Needles by Dolly Parton
damn it is good


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Maxxx Payne
  Mar 17, 07, 17:02  #143

Quoting: miranda
Listen, I am speculating here, but so is everybody else on this tread,



True. But you know I am right




just jokin


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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Mar 17, 07, 17:48  #144

Maax,
you are as right as you want to be


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Grzegorz_
  Mar 17, 07, 17:49  #145

Quoting: miranda
GDP per head in Poland is $9,840
Finland is $45,020


Source ? It's more like $15.000 for Poland, $28.000 for Finland.


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Grzegorz_
  Mar 17, 07, 17:51  #146

Quoting: miranda
they are taking the job, because thair economy is not sufficient enough to say NO.


Sorry, but...

If that was about money we would support France and Germany, then at least maybe they would drop us a few billion more in EU funds. America gives us nothing.


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miranda
  Mar 17, 07, 17:52  #147

Grzegorz,
my source is "The economist", what's yours?


Cheers.


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Grzegorz_
  Mar 17, 07, 17:55  #148

Quoting: miranda
my source is "The economist"


Link ?


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miranda
  Mar 17, 07, 17:59  #149

I am looking, I have a hard copy version, what's yours?


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Grzegorz_
  Mar 17, 07, 18:01  #150

Quoting: miranda
what's yours?


My mega brain

CIA world factbook says:

Poland 14.100

Finland 32.800

cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fi.html#Econ

cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/pl.html#Econ


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