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U.S. Missile Base in Poland----Your thoughts?


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daffy
  Mar 23, 07, 21:09  #241

Quoting: ArturSzastak
They're a lost cause. I gave up (not quit, but grew tired) and i'm doing fine


seconded.

its hypocritical, unfounded, biased, xenophobic, unrealistic (germany has 'plans' for poland alright...but the only invasion will be economic in the form of EU grants!!!)

 
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Edited by: Crow  Mar 24, 07, 10:45  #242

Quoting: daffy
its hypocritical, unfounded, biased, xenophobic,...


In case with my position...

Propaganda war against Serbs put us (Serbs) who are true victims (all Yugoslavs are victims of German [on the first place] expansionism) in situation that we in defansive must again and again offering explanations for- what`s happened during civil war in former Yugoslavia.

In fact, true meaning and mission of: EU, NATO, Germany, Britain, Israel, USA, Saudi Arabia, etc (think- what unites them?) was exposed on examples of Yugoslavia and Serbia, that is- OBEY or you would be destroyed.



Yugoslavia as state reached highest level of multiculturalism, only because her fundaments was Slavic culture and heritage. USA, EU could only dream about that. No, not even to dream.

Democracy, human rights, ... etc are only tools for THEIR interference in bussines of other people (civilisations). There is no THEIR mission. They only GRAB- people and resources- in world of dissorder.

Everything will be exposed. SLAVIC RESISTANCE (OTPOR SLOVENA) is on the way!


Mussion of Slavs- last free native Europeans, is to bring peace, justice, order, love and hope to humiliated world.

Slavic world is balance between civilisations and we must be free.

Glory to SLAVDOM!

 
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miranda
  Mar 24, 07, 10:46  #243

Crow

 
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Edited by: Crow  Mar 24, 07, 10:48  #244

Quoting: daffy
germany has 'plans' for poland .........in the form of EU grants!!! )

Not only for Poland


We Serbs,...we recogized the beast.

 
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Ranj
  Mar 24, 07, 10:49  #245

Quoting: miranda
Crow

My thoughts, exactly, M!

 
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Edited by: Crow  Mar 24, 07, 10:51  #246

Quoting: Ranj


Quoting: miranda
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My thoughts, exactly, M!

What?

I gave my respond on provocation.



 
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  Mar 24, 07, 10:54  #247

Quoting: miranda
Crow

Tell me, ... tell me beutiful rose of Polish garden, where I mistaken and I would apologise.



 
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  Mar 24, 07, 10:56  #248

Quoting: Ranj


Quoting: miranda
Crow

My thoughts, exactly, M!

OK and this goes for you



 
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Edited by: miranda  Mar 24, 07, 11:11  #249

Crow,
I had to refresh on the rules of this forum. All political themes should be avoided - the sam goes for religious ones.
all your postings here are on political themes. I don't have problem with it, eccept for the fact that it's a Polish forum. I have nothing against you or the country you come from. It just seems odd that you consantly talk about uniting the Slavs. Most of the time I just ignore your posts because to me they seem a little out of touch with reality. That's all.
I wish you can comment on other topics from time to time.
How does your post relate to this thred???
No need to apologize, maybe just for that "Rose" - sound a bit like - do not worry your little head .........

 
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Patrycja19
  Mar 24, 07, 13:06  #250

Quoting: miranda
How does your post relate to this thred???


good question Miranda. how does it crow?

 
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polish pride [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 13:11  #251

You people probably also felt it was a good idea for Polish soldiers to go to Bush's war in Iraq. This was a mistake and it will be a second mistake for Poland to support this stupid missile base. There are better ways to make Poland's economy better than by building a base. One of these is the flat tax idea by Donald Tusk. Unfortunately, he wasn't elected.

 
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polish pride [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 13:14  #252

By the way I already have emailed lech Kaczynski with my complaints.

 
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miranda
  Mar 24, 07, 13:16  #253

Quoting: polish pride
By the way I already have emailed lech Kaczynski with my complaints.

that's a spirit, at least you not one of those people who complain on the internet and do noting about it.
Can you give Kaczynski's address, please?

 
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Patrycja19
  Mar 24, 07, 13:27  #254

Quoting: Patrycja19
You people


who are you referring to? I never said that. what planet did you get off of that you
can say that we feel this way. you have not a clue and no idea what your even
talking about , you refer to all of us, and so many dont even want war. get
real!!

 
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Patrycja19
  Mar 24, 07, 13:28  #255

Quoting: polish pride
By the way I already have emailed lech Kaczynski with my complaints.


hmmm good luck, you should chain yourself to his car, you might get better results!

 
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polish pride [Guest]
  Mar 24, 07, 13:44  #256

Just google president.pl under president and important links.
Also, I was referring to you people who blindly support decisions like the war and the missile base without looking at the bad consequences of these decisions

 
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miranda
Edited by: miranda  Mar 24, 07, 13:57  #257

Quoting: polish pride
I was referring to you people who blindly support decisions like the war and the missile base without looking at the bad consequences of these decisions

read the whole thread, thanks for the e-mail clue

 
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Grzegorz_
  Mar 24, 07, 14:37  #258

Quoting: Crow
Glory to SLAVDOM!


True.

 
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Edited by: Crow  Mar 24, 07, 14:56  #259

Quoting: miranda
How does your post relate to this thred???



Please, don`t be selfish. Poland is important Slavic country. If you aren`t aware of it, that`s your problem, not mine.


After all, look batter. All my posts in this thread are related to this topic, more or less.

For people with pan-Slavic feelings, decision in case with missile base in Poland are very important question. You know, I grow up in Yugoslavia and I live in Serbia which politics and ordinary/public life always strongly depended on destine of other Slavs. Forget for a moment what BBC and CCN told you about Serbs. If you don`t know something you batter ask so that at least for the moment you can get information about Serbian side of story. You have many Catholic and Protestant Slavs who could tell you what they think about Orthodox Serbs. For example, you can ask Lusatians, Slovenians, Slovaks, Czechs. Ask Poles from Voivodina (Serbian Northern province). All of them, don`t see survivor of Slavic South without Serbia, all of them are awere that Serbs aren`t anti-Catholics, all of them were supported (even Croats) by Serbs in time of their need and they understand what is in the game. All Slavs who know little from Slavic history know that Serbia was Slavic piedmont during Austro-Hungarian occupation. We were hope for those under Turkish occupation and for those who suffered under Germans/Austrians/Hungarians. Don`t base your view about Serbs on the base of pro-German Croatian propaganda and other anti-Serbian sources.


Of course, question about missile bases, is on the first place Polish internal question but, nuclear base on Polish ground in this constellation between powers sounds little too much for me. For me, that look’s dangerous for Poland and that way dangerous for global salvation of Slavs.

Are you aware of consequences? When you are legitimitate target for nuclear missiles, you can be victim even of possible mistake. I mean true mistake and `mistake` (something like- `ups sorry, we didn’t mean it`). And, what you think that somebody from USA or Europe can do about that mistake (to help Poland to recovery? to start global nucler war? think!). Some German magnate for example wouldn’t risk his life or his business for Poland. Isn’t it? THEY could say- `After all they are all Slavs, we would do business with those who survive`. On the end THEY maybe even decide to `support` Poland or to make `business` behind back of Poland. Yes, yes. And, what would we whose heart would bleed if Poland bleed?


Take also in consideration feelings of ordinary Russians. I am deeply sure that ordinary people in Russia have strong pan-Slavic feelings but, Russian elite is divided. There are selfish people who don’t give a sh** even for Russians and on the other side there are people with great Slavic soul in the ranks of Russian elite and they fights to create batter democratic Russia which would be able for true mission among Slavs, not false.

Missile base in Poland wouldn’t help to Russia. No, those bases would just push her harder in the hands of those selfish people, same people who would be ready to negotiate with Germany about division of Poland. Why Poland wouldn’t help that Russia consolidate instead that Poland strengthen antagonisms inside of Russia?

In this very moment, pan-Slavic wing of Russian elite fights great battles inside of Russian parliament, in Russian society- because of pressure on Serbia. Selfish people who are ready to sell Slavic interests are weaker then ever. Russia is now full with pan-Slavic energy and something beautiful could happen, on the behalf of whole Slavdom and all progressive humankind. Order could be restored in the international relations (that for beggining).


Listen what was situation in Serbia during NATO bombardment when Russians start too deploys their SS-300 and SS-400 systems in their embassy in Belgrade (after destruction of Chinese embassy)...

In first moment Serbs were happy that somebody can do something. Then, people started to think- `If Russians hit some NATO projectile, on the end that projectile must fall somewhere`. And, people become aware- `on the heads of Serbs`. Then people started to worry and were even upset. There were also rumors that Russian airplanes fight battles against NATO somewhere on our sky (Serbian aviation was already destroyed- it was 1 Serbian airplane vs. 15 NATO airplanes). I can confirm that it was unpleasant situation. Same about it, you can heard from Bulgarians, Macedonians, even Italians (all those territories were affected).

And, those NATO bombs were full of radioactive materials. Many Serbs died and dying because of those bombs even today and even in the future would die.

 
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Edited by: Crow  Mar 24, 07, 15:22  #260

Quoting: miranda
No need to apologize, maybe just for that "Rose" - sound a bit like - do not worry your little head .........

I’m sorry and I apologize if you taken that comment that way. I am really sorry.

For me all Slavic women are Roses of White garden and I respect those mothers, sisters and daughters.

Slavic females share tragic Slavic history and situation of Slavdom with Slavic males and deserve to be respected. Our females were with us in days of our glory and in days of our downfall. Unfortunately, we Slavs sometimes failed to protect our beautiful woman and even then, they are good to us.

Our Lord is good to Slavs when He granted Slavic world with all that wisdom, strength, beauty,... in magnificent Slavic woman.

 
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LoneStranger
  Mar 24, 07, 15:28  #261

Quoting: Crow
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Calm Down.

 
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Edited by: Admin  Mar 24, 07, 15:41  #262

Angus Reid Global Monitor : Polls & Research
Poland Rejects U.S. Missile Shield Base
February 5, 2007

angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/14635

Angus Reid Global Monitor : Polls & Research
Majority in Poland Rejects Missile Shield
March 24, 2007
angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/15151


Thanks Poles, for you choice. that will buy time to best in all of us.


Slavs are connected more than many people think...

I can inform you that Serbs already taken stance with Russia in case with natural gas . No matter on tragic Serbian situation and dependence on all possible help, our message to Russian gas companies was- `if no gas for Polish children, we too don’t need cheaper gas, we don’t need Russian gas at all`.

This reaction from Serbia, boosted pan-Slavic feelings inside of Russia and many members of Russian parliament strongly demand that official Russia stop to blackmail other Slavs with gas.

This is just the beginning of true changes in Russian society.

 
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Crow
  Mar 24, 07, 15:46  #263

Quoting: Grzegorz_


Quoting: Crow
Glory to SLAVDOM!


True.

Thank you in the name of future of our children.

 
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miranda
  Mar 24, 07, 18:00  #264

OK Crow,
no offence taken

 
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polish pride [Guest]
  Mar 29, 07, 19:41  #265

If poland approves of this missile base polish parents should invest in two things to protect their daughters, karate lessons and chastity belts.

 
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daffy
  Mar 31, 07, 03:43  #266

Quoting: polish pride
If poland approves of this missile base polish parents should invest in two things to protect their daughters, karate lessons and chastity belts.


so what makes these bases in Poland different to bases in any other NATO country?

Parents don't need to go to such far-fetched extremes.

Quoting: Crow
Thank you in the name of future of our children.


Glory to HUMANKIND crow, Glory to HUMANKIND!!!

BIG picture.

 
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Edited by: Crow  Mar 31, 07, 07:23  #267

Quoting: daffy
Glory to HUMANKIND crow, Glory to HUMANKIND!!!

Tell me daffy...What would you tell to your children if they say `Glory to our family`?

You would probably correct them and say- `No, no, you need to say Glory to our town`.


I can understand that but, don`t forget- one who don`t bellong to family, will lose himself in this beautiful but cruel world.

All Slavs are my family and I care for them and I believe that specific Slavic culture has important mission for salvation and progress of whole humankind.

And, maybe just maybe, one day, when Slavs get opportunity to choose as free people (no- as slaves, servants or prisoners), Slavs could decide to combine their culture with some other`s culture. Untill that moment we would tend to free ourself, to be equal with other humans, not to be humiliated. We would contribute to humankind on our unique way.


You get the picture?

 
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daffy
  Mar 31, 07, 07:38  #268

Quoting: Crow
And, maybe just maybe, one day, when Slavs get opportunity to choose as free people (no- as slaves, servants or prisoners), Slavs could decide to combine their culture with some other`s culture. Untill that moment we would tend to free ourself, to be equal with other humans, not to be humiliated. We would contribute to humankind on our unique way



erm the slavs aren't slaves to the nazis or communist's anymore. they voted, the slavs voted, to be in the EU. the slavs have spoken.

Quoting: Crow
You get the picture?


i get your picture. as a very narrow view of humanity that fails to see beyond your nose (figure of speech) and see the bigger picture. the picture your and my lord jesus christ instructed us to live in.

which, i wonder with posts like the last one, if you are living only half of it. (ie the have that suits you and your notion of freedom)

Quoting: Crow
Tell me daffy...What would you tell to your children if they say `Glory to our family`?


as i said, glory to HUMANKIND and they are my children, id be surprised as prejudice is usually indoctrinated by family.

BUT if they did, id ask what they mean, if they mean our extended human family, id be so proud.

if they said it in your definition, id remind them of god's message and i am not that religious to the point of oppression, I would more than likely let them know that there family that they wish glory for is humanity

and id be proud of them still

 
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polish pride [Guest]
  Apr 1, 07, 15:12  #269

If you want your daughter to be a prostitute or stripper for American soldiers you much not have much pride in Polish women. This will be the result of the missile base. Polish people should reject this missile base.

 
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daffy
  Apr 1, 07, 16:00  #270

Quoting: polish pride
If you want your daughter to be a prostitute or stripper for American soldiers you much not have much pride in Polish women. This will be the result of the missile base. Polish people should reject this missile base.



this is not the case in any other nato country host to bases, why would poland be any different.

besides. its the POLISH gov't letting such happen. Poland decided to join Nato, nato did not conquer poland.

 
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