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London Strip Clubs? What's it like for women working there?


patrycja85
21 Mar 2014 #1
This is a bit of an embarrassing question, but what's it like for women working in strip clubs in the London area? What are some of the best clubs in London that pay the most? Is it true that club owners typically prefer women from Poland and East Europe? Do men tend to harass the women at these sort of clubs?
DominicB - | 2,707
21 Mar 2014 #2
Probably not the type of work you would want to do unless you are truly desperate, and even then, there are almost always better options. At best, it's difficult and degrading work for low wages. At worst, it can get very, very bad, indeed. Harassment goes with the turf, and assault, rape, and forced prostitution are not rare. Girls are often shortchanged on their wages to keep them poor and desperate. In any case, it's no road to riches.

The reason strip club owners hire foreign girls is because they are usually more desperate and easier to control, as they have few other opportunities waiting for them should they want to leave. And they can pay them less, of course. Or not pay them at all.
Englishman 2 | 278
22 Mar 2014 #3
It's a horrible life. You're worth more than that.
KochanaPatrycja
23 Mar 2014 #4
At best, it's difficult and degrading work for low wages.

I don't think it's degrading. I find that quite sexist for you to say that to be honest. If women want to work in such jobs, that's their right. We live in the modern world of sexual freedom.

Harassment goes with the turf

I talked to a Romanian friend of mine and she said at the club she works at, the security protects the women there very well.

The reason strip club owners hire foreign girls

It could also be that we're sexier than British women. :-)
InWroclaw 89 | 1,911
23 Mar 2014 #5
I always think of this when anyone mentions lapdancing.

youtube.com/watch?v=PVsDBrfxj4I
szczecinianin 4 | 320
23 Mar 2014 #6
It could also be that we're sexier than British women. :-)

Or cheaper.
KochanaPatrycja
23 Mar 2014 #7
Every British guy I've met has commented on how women from Poland are more beautiful than British women. So please knock it off with disgusting comments like that.
szczecinianin 4 | 320
23 Mar 2014 #8
British men tend to be polite and tell people what they want to hear. If you choose to be conceited about your appearance then you are heading for a fall. I'm sorry if you find the truth 'disgusting'.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,861
23 Mar 2014 #9
If women want to work in such jobs, that's their right. We live in the modern world of sexual freedom.

if that is your idea of freedom.....i pity you.

It could also be that we're sexier than British women. :-)

no love it because you are easier to exploit and cheaper
InWroclaw 89 | 1,911
23 Mar 2014 #10
Don't you think it's the men who are exploited? I tend to think so. We're expected to pay just to speak to a good looking woman and have her give us her attention by means of a dance. In reality, I think a lot of the men would pay just to have someone pleasant looking actually listen to them and feign interest. Girlfriends and wives have heard it all before, and tend to slap down their partner with "I've heard your stories before, dear" remarks.

Also, must say that Polish women are of course generally much better lookers. By far. Present company excepted, naturally!
szczecinianin 4 | 320
23 Mar 2014 #11
Don't you think it's the men who are exploited? I tend to think so. We're expected to pay just to speak to a good looking woman and have her give us her attention by means of a dance.

This would be so if it were the girls themselves who set up the club and kept all the profits. Somehow, I don't suppose this to be the case.

Also, must say that Polish women are of course generally much better lookers. By far. Present company excepted, naturally!

Do you think it reasonable to judge others by their looks? If so, how would you fare personally?

Irrespective of the truth or otherwise of Patrycja's remarks, only an extremely conceited and/or insensitive person would make them.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,911
23 Mar 2014 #12
Do you think it reasonable to judge others by their looks? If so, how would you fare personally?

You can't argue with nature, it's nature to judge by appearance for breeding purposes. How would I fare? I'm not in a business arena where my appearance matters. If I was, I'd be broke.

Irrespective of the truth or otherwise of Patrycja's
remarks, only an extremely conceited and/or insensitive person would make them.

Mirror mirror on your wall.
Englishman 2 | 278
23 Mar 2014 #13
@ KochanaPatrycja, yes, women choose to become strippers. But sometimes people choose the least bad option available to them, which doesn't take away from the fact it's a bad option.

How can it be a nice job for a woman to be leered at by drunken men who get off on making women gyrate in front of them, simulating sex, half naked, and who show off and persuade themselves they are not sad losers by stuffing money into the girls' underwear to make them do private dances?

And how do the women feel when they go home? Empowered? Like a female barrister, doctor or pilot? Or dirty and exploited? Having to pretend to enjoy pleasing those foul men is a way to support themselves and perhaps their children, but I don't think it's a happy way to make a living. Plus it's an industry that attracts sleazy men, who bully the women, put them on drugs, try to get them into prostitution etc. Horrible.
szczecinianin 4 | 320
23 Mar 2014 #14
You can't argue with nature, it's nature to judge by appearance for breeding purposes.

Of course, it is. But some things are better left unsaid.

Perhaps you've got an ugly wife, sister, mother or girlfriend. Is it ok with you for people to go on about how ugly they are? After all, you can't argue with nature.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,861
24 Mar 2014 #15
Polish women are of course generally much better lookers

in general perhaps yes
Wulkan - | 3,203
24 Mar 2014 #16
London Strip Clubs?

It's funny how you agreed to someone in the other post that Polish women have family values and then you reveal to have 5 boyfriends lately and now you wanna get yourself naked in front of random men to back this theory up :-)

Is it true that club owners typically prefer women from Poland

That is indeed a fact and although we know that the reason behind it that would boost your little ego is it's because Polish women are more attractive. However the truth is that they are less demanding more naive and easier to manipulate.

Every British guy I've met has commented on how women from Poland are more beautiful than British women.

I was once filrting with a black woman and I said to her that I generally find black women more attractive, I even managed to keep my face straight.
KochanaPatrycja
24 Mar 2014 #17
How can it be a nice job for a woman to be leered at by drunken men who get off on making women gyrate in front of them, simulating sex, half naked, and who show off and persuade themselves they are not sad losers by stuffing money into the girls' underwear to make them do private dances?

I don't view anything wrong with men being entertained by my body. It's a different thing if the men are harassing women in clubs of course. However, at the club I'm looking into, the security guards will kick out anyone that goes over that line.

It's complex but modern feminist theory is not against púrnography, prostitution and stripping. Modern feminist theory is against the exploitation of these three.

It's funny how you agreed to someone in the other post that Polish women have family values and then you reveal to have 5 boyfriends lately and now you wanna get yourself naked in front of random men to back this theory up :-)

I don't recall saying that. However, it's true that Polish women make great mothers. We are intelligent, hard working, and know how to raise children.

I never said I have 5 boyfriends. You have some reading problems apparently.
szczecinianin 4 | 320
24 Mar 2014 #18
However, it's true that Polish women make great mothers. We are intelligent, hard working, and know how to raise children.

But apparently not, in any way, modest.
Wroclaw Boy
25 Mar 2014 #19
I should imagine that you can earn quite a bit of money in the more respectable ones, and seeing as money makes the world go round within our current paradigm, why not work there. Better than plenty of other professions in circulation. Its a basic supply and demand issue, i don't see strippers being replaced by technology anytime soon.
Englishman 2 | 278
25 Mar 2014 #20
I don't view anything wrong with men being entertained by my body. It's a different thing if the men are harassing women in clubs of course. However, at the club I'm looking into, the security guards will kick out anyone that goes over that line.

It's complex but modern feminist theory is not against prnography, prostitution and stripping. Modern feminist theory is against the exploitation of these three.

I accept that a situation in which men pay women to dance suggestively for them is not necessarily exploitative of the women, in fact it's more likely to exploit the men. However, the problem is that the clubs and the people who run them are so shady. Often there is pressure to perform 'other services' after hours, for favoured customers. There may also be drugs, to keep the girls compliant, arguments over payments, violence, or at least threats.
cms 9 | 1,255
25 Mar 2014 #21
But there are shady people in any cash business with high margins - fast food, scrap metal, used cars - that's life.

If the girls are willing participants and not being coerced then I don't see how anyone can have a problem with it. If I were a 20 something Pole with an attractive figure I would rather work 3-4 hours for 100 euro than sit in an office 8 hours for a third of that money.

In most cases I think the girls pay a retainer to work in the club but they keep the proceeds of their dancing for themselves i.e. they eat what they kill. In that respect its remarkably similar to the way legal and accounting partnerships work !
Jardinero 1 | 405
25 Mar 2014 #22
The OP reminded me of a Dr Brooke Magnanti, who wrote under the pen name Belle de Jour to describe the encounters she had as a high-class call girl while earning money for her PhD, and who now lives in Bristol where she's a research scientist for The Bristol Initiative for Research of Child Health... news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8361557.stm
justlivinbbyh12
5 Sep 2014 #23
I'm black and want to be a stripper to help me with things.
I find it quite hard finding a club all i see is a lot of black women. Can someone help me find one!
Annna1 1 | 2
26 Sep 2014 #24
Seems to be a lot of nasty comments about British women from Polish women going on about how they're better. That must mean Polish women are ******.

bit chy was the blocked word.

Can't have much personality if they need to go on about how they're so much better than others. Maybe British people don't think looks are the most important thing and aren't so superficial?

Plus believing something because some weirdo on the internet said is sad. I bet most of the men were really Polish women lol.
Wulkan - | 3,203
26 Sep 2014 #25
Polish women going on about how they're better.

Don't worry, I can asure you that they are not.
Englishman 2 | 278
29 Sep 2014 #26
Can't have much personality if they need to go on about how they're so much better than others. Maybe British people don't think looks are the most important thing and aren't so superficial?

I think it's true that a lot of British guys are attracted by Polish women. It's not just the looks, it's also the cute accent, the emphasis on education/current affairs/culture, the family values, the European flair, the whole thing...
Annna1 1 | 2
29 Sep 2014 #27
I suppose there are some British men who just prefer foreign women. Usually rejected by a lot of women in their own country, and when many from other countries go after them them for their money they love it. As men are thick when it comes to women, they think it's because they're adorable. Why come on a Polish forum advertising you're an English man, if not to try and pick up Polish women?

This thread is about what it's like for women working in London strip clubs. Please stick to the topic of the thread.
goodluckk
30 Sep 2014 #28
London is of specific demographic or more precisely NOT of white demographic. Consider how you feel being a sexual object for such individuals
jon357 74 | 21,780
30 Sep 2014 #29
How does that make a difference for you?
QUEENSHEEBA
11 Mar 2015 #30
i think Polish women are not that special!!!!some of them are cute...but thats not all:they prefer to work in a strip clubs to get easy money and settle with one of the customers in the club.hard worker???please.... to get a position the just lick assess ...plus not all of them are good educated or raise to be mothers;in fact in London i saw plenty of them having kids with black men and then blow against black people cos they have a racist mentality...

Also the breathe is the worst ever...seems like they eat garlic instead of gum or candy`s.

Lets say that...generally eastern European women are all about the money...some of them are cute some of them are not....

To all the Polish women:STOP TO THINK U R BETTER...U STRIP TO GET **************************** PLEASE


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