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Under contract to teach and fraud, is there a fine to leave Poland?


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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Dec 18, 07, 19:14  #31

Quoting: MrBubbles
Typical attitude I've come to expect from the Poles


- Aren't you unfairly generalising? - I know tons of cases from both UK and US where Poles have been duped and ripped off without mercy. Should I regard the employers' frauds an expression of 'the typical attitude I've come to expect from the British and Americans'?

Take it easy, pal.

If this man has been ripped off by some Polish creeps, he should put up a fight to get even with them, pure and simple. Unlike e.g. many Poles in North America, in Poland he has the chance to fight for justice.

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db1874
  Dec 19, 07, 02:11  #32

Quoting: Puzzler
Aren't you unfairly generalising?
Puzzler's standard reply to anything negative said about Poland.....

Quoting: Puzzler
in Poland he has the chance to fight for justice
are you kidding, he's a foreigner...!

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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Dec 19, 07, 02:30  #33

Quoting: db1874
Puzzler's standard reply


- Yes, it's Puzzler's standard reply to a standard insult. Did you expect my reaction to be different? Why? Do you keep quiet when they insult your little precious country? I wonder.

Quoting: db1874
are you kidding, he's a foreigner...!


- Why would I be kidding? He has got not only the possibility, but also duty to fight for justice there.

Do you think otherwise? Why?

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hanseatic seak
  Dec 19, 07, 04:21  #34

Quoting: Puzzler
- Why would I be kidding? He has got not only the possibility, but also duty to fight for justice there.

Do you think otherwise? Why?



One has "duty" only WITHIN a pre-existing SYSTEM of justice, on whose parameters all involved parties concur. There's been little here to make me believe there is any such thing that might hold up its end of the transaction. “Good faith” seems a quite alien notion (see above on benefit of the doubt). On the contrary, the dozens if not truly 100s of the other aforementioned experiences suggest otherwise...

Any effort to carry out some SUPRA Polish duty, whereby justice on a grand scale, like karma, will come around, maybe at soonest, on our initial climb out of Chopina, depends, at this point in world history, on something like a robust Hegelian belief in the cosmic-connectedness of world spirit. And in fact, I do subscribe to something like that.

I bear these people no malice, nor, bless ‘em, do I think they do me. But good will is something else again. (But wasn’t Kant from around here?) Fortunately, however, the relevant cosmos extends beyond even the revised Schengen borders. And this butterfly would prefer to beat its wings afield, probably among some very particular amber grains, rather than his head (or just as likely, someone else’s) on some wall free enough of graffiti – if he can find one.

Rippling in a stream, spattering on a mural, or poesizing on a forum, I have to leave a mark – in all good faith, it’s my duty. One the locals, on the whole, seem destined neither to understand nor appreciate.

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MrBubbles
  Dec 19, 07, 05:41  #35

Quoting: Puzzler
Should I regard the employers' frauds an expression of 'the typical attitude I've come to expect from the British and Americans'?


No, read my post again. I'm talking about the attitude of Poles that 'oh it's your fault you got ripped off and now I'm going to get back to the TV or whatever.'. The employer's a shark and they should be made accountable.

PS It's rude to call people 'pal'

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