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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 22:37  #61

Quoting: FISZ
You've misunderstood me. I'm not saying we're different in these aspects...I'm just stating that our country is a mess because our President is having a hissy fit because congress want's to sent troops home. GWB want's to win HIS war and he's now pouting like a child and threatening congress that he's gonna veto anything that comes to his office because he'd rather spend more money on the war instead. I'm embarassed to have him represent our people. And Blair is his little b*tch.


ok, I dont like this war, but were in it now, and now Oil is the most important
thing ( look at soaring prices) , do you or anyone else think when they come home
that will change?

no it will be even harder, because now since we are there, weve pissed them off
so bad, they want revenge, if we dont secure the oil now, we dont secure our
future, as much as I am against the war, the evidence presents itself and bush
did screw up, but its either tighten up and add some strenght with other countries
helping so we can secure it or were all going to be back on the horse and buggy
and pooper scoopers.

I said I hate this war, I dont want them there, I hate the fact that my tax dollars
go towards this, but its to late, and with the threat of Iran, we would be facing
some kind of armageddon. <~spelling?

ahh, yeah.

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larry casula
  Mar 30, 07, 22:45  #62

Quoting: Patrycja19
armageddon.

Your right it's just around the corner!! Look for the Horsemen!!

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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 22:56  #63

Quoting: larry casula
Your right it's just around the corner!! Look for the Horsemen!!


as long as my TV and my hair dryer dont attack me I am fine, I have the dog
under control and the guinea pig! but no walking microwave ovens and
computers taking over my house, I will pull some heavy artillery and cut all their
wires!

did you watch that documentary on all the house appliances coming to life?
some things are overboard, but if it does happen, I will start pulling plugs and
run like she-ra!

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larry casula
  Mar 30, 07, 22:58  #64

Quoting: Patrycja19
did you watch that documentary on all the house appliances coming to life?
some things are overboard, but if it does happen, I will start pulling plugs and
run like she-ra!


No I did not, but sounds kinda wierd, did this really happen?/ or are you pulling my leg?

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Eurola GOLD MEMBER
  Mar 30, 07, 23:00  #65

It really annoys me that it is such a big deal when they quote in the media that another soldier(s) is/are killed. They are soldiers and they are at war. Most of them want to be there (money or education reason) and/or are proud to be there.

There are many more people killed in America every day for totally "no reason" i.e. car accidents, gang/drug wars, domestic dispute - you name it. Somehow, no BIG deal here.

I know that Europe deals with a very expensive oil/gas prices and it is considered normal. We are basically driving here for free. A few cents up a gallon creates drama.
I too hate the war. Not only because it seems pointless, but also it does drive the prices up. If they want a freedom in Iraq, they should just start to fight for it themselves. All freedom loving countries (including Poland) have done it. So can they. That's is. We pissed them of enough for helping anyway.

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larry casula
  Mar 30, 07, 23:08  #66

Eurola,
there have been 99 slayings in Philadelphia just this year so far!! from people using guns!

Now I am for the use of firearms for protection, dont get me wrong,
but I agree, the media hypes this way too much, actually there were thousands killed in WWII especially in the invasion when America entered the war, so in 5 years its pretty dag gone excellent, our military if you ask them want to be there and they see the good they are doing and we never hear here from the drive by media!!
Our troops are the best and deserve our adoration!!

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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 23:15  #67

Quoting: larry casula
No I did not, but sounds kinda wierd, did this really happen?/ or are you pulling my leg?


yes, dam, now I want to hear the name of the documentary, it was about the
future, and someone else who was like nostradamus was talking , oh yeah
he was American indian, and he spoke of the great spirit. it was quite interesting
makes you wonder if we should be really taking advantage of our convienences
or just go back to the good ole days when candles lit the tables. Progress has
become chaos.

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Patrycja19
  Mar 30, 07, 23:21  #68

Quoting: Eurola
It really annoys me that it is such a big deal when they quote in the media that another soldier(s) is/are killed. They are soldiers and they are at war. Most of them want to be there (money or education reason) and/or are proud to be there.

There are many more people killed in America every day for totally "no reason" i.e. car accidents, gang/drug wars, domestic dispute - you name it. Somehow, no BIG deal here.

I know that Europe deals with a very expensive oil/gas prices and it is considered normal. We are basically driving here for free. A few cents up a gallon creates drama.
I too hate the war. Not only because it seems pointless, but also it does drive the prices up. If they want a freedom in Iraq, they should just start to fight for it themselves. All freedom loving countries (including Poland) have done it. So can they. That's is. We pissed them of enough for helping anyway.



I agree with you but now it is to late, and as with any war, its shear luck you make
the right call or the wrong call as a superior. you dont know which way the enemy
will go, so its all guess work. just like here at home, we dont know that some
idiot is going to pull a gun, we feel secure, so hey, take that early morn walk and
go to that shopping mall, here come the attackers. we at war in every town, its just
less publicized as you say.

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Patrycja19
  Mar 31, 07, 00:21  #69

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yes, dam, now I want to hear the name of the documentary, it was about the
future, and someone else who was like nostradamus was talking , oh yeah
he was American indian, and he spoke of the great spirit. it was quite interesting
makes you wonder if we should be really taking advantage of our convienences
or just go back to the good ole days when candles lit the tables. Progress has
become chaos.


Larry the discovery channel Duhhhhhhhh. but the name of the doc was something
to do with future something or another. I found it to be kinda eye opening till he
mentions the machines turning against mankind, but in essence, this could only
happen with progress and someone being so good at the computer to program
a virus in everything we own to make it do crazy stuff. that I would believe. some
master mind behind the keys. pretty much everything can be run by a computer
except my toaster and fridge, if they touch my kitchen I will have their arse!!!!

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larry casula
  Mar 31, 07, 06:17  #70

Quoting: Patrycja19
except my toaster and fridge, if they touch my kitchen I will have their arse!!!!

Yeah the blender had better keep its shavers to itself, and that goes for the rest of you appliances, if you leave your room you'll be grounded (out)!!!

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crasyman77
  Mar 31, 07, 08:02  #71

for sure us brtis won't let our brothers suffer for long in that stupid Iran. We won' let a stupid idiot iranin government rule for long GOD SAVE THE QUEEN GOD SAVE AMERICA

Brothers lets not let the ignorance of the arabs prevent us from enjoying our world

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FISZ
  Mar 31, 07, 09:10  #72

Quoting: Patrycja19
because now since we are there, weve pissed them off
so bad, they want revenge

Yeah, so wouldn't it make sense to have our troops home where we may need them?

Quoting: Patrycja19
if we dont secure the oil now

Now you sound like one of them. Sad...reallly. Are you a R by chance? Didn't it ever occur to you that we can utilize other natural resources? We just spend our $$ on war instead. We also have Alaska, but before we piss them off, we can at least try to use a more efficient source for fuel.

Word is that we're supposed to air raid Iran's nukular sites in early April. I'm not sure if I can believe that though. I hear this is news in Poland too. What's the word in the UK? Any hostile reactions from Blair?

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swatdoc [Guest]
  Mar 31, 07, 09:39  #73

I just love hearing some of you folks just flap your gums. espcialy ones who have not ever had to fire a shot in anger in ther lives. Sitting here on a furum trying to armchair quarterback those royal marines well I was in the U.S. military who has trained in England.
and have been in combat in the Iraq war.
and i'm willing to bet most of the blowhards in here when the time came would not rise to occasion to defend the very freedoms they enjoy. listen i'm not into politics but before you talk sh_t about these guys remember remeber you were not there and never will be...

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Patrycja19
  Mar 31, 07, 09:46  #74

Quoting: larry casula
Yeah the blender had better keep its shavers to itself, and that goes for the rest of you appliances, if you leave your room you'll be grounded (out)!!!


lol I know where the fuse box is!! lol

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FISZ
  Mar 31, 07, 09:53  #75

Quoting: swatdoc
I just love hearing some of you folks just flap your gums. espcialy ones who have not ever had to fire a shot in anger in ther lives. Sitting here on a furum trying to armchair quarterback those royal marines well I was in the U.S. military who has trained in England.and have been in combat in the Iraq war. and i'm willing to bet most of the blowhards in here when the time came would not rise to occasion to defend the very freedoms they enjoy. listen i'm not into politics but before you talk sh_t about these guys remember remeber you were not there and never will be...


I'm sure you're right about thos who talk shite. I've already done my time and served my counrty. It's just unfortunate for our troops that our country hasn't a clue of what to do next.

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Patrycja19
  Mar 31, 07, 10:05  #76

Quoting: swatdoc
and i'm willing to bet most of the blowhards in here when the time came would not rise to occasion to defend the very freedoms they enjoy. listen i'm not into politics but before you talk sh_t about these guys remember remeber you were not there and never will be...


no ones saying anything about the guys who are fighting, we honor them , dont think
we dont support the troops. on the contrary, its many who dont support the cause
which you can agree has run off its course. And the public (especially those who have
family involved in this war) the right to know whats going on through politics.

our govt still isnt telling us truth,. and one man which is a very notable and honorable
soldier was killed by friendly fire, and the family as well as the president was even
misinformed to avoid embarassment because it was our own who caused this.

I feel it was more embarassing holding it back, and for the family of this football
player/soldier who didnt deserve this, it was shocking.

How many others have been misinformed? how much is the public misinformed?
maybe what we have posted, we dont know everything, but what we do know
we may comment about, and not every post is going to be agreed with.

I commend you on speaking out, and also fighting for our freedoms. but I dont
really think the govt is actually fighting for our freedom at this point, its the Iraq
people whom is the cause at this point and I think People are frustrated because
we know the impact of war for All nations of people involved in this war.

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Patrycja19
  Mar 31, 07, 10:28  #77

Quoting: FISZ
Yeah, so wouldn't it make sense to have our troops home where we may need them?


Fisz, I agree with you on that, but then what? do you think that now they will stay
in their country? we seen what happened in 9/11 and that was just a taste.

what is the right answers? stop them from coming? not let people enter into
the united states because they could be terrorists?

they dont have labels that tell us they are terrorists. And they dont need guns
weve all seen this.

now more threat with this new Iranian President. do you think peace is in the
future? mmmm far to late Fisz. that is the sad part. I dont know the right answers
I dont think anyone else does either.

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FISZ
  Mar 31, 07, 10:32  #78

Quoting: Patrycja19
we seen what happened in 9/11 and that was just a taste.

OK, so we just occupy them now...for how long?And this was Al Queda...in Afghanistan...not Iraq.

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daffy
  Mar 31, 07, 10:33  #79

Quoting: FISZ
OK, so we just occupy them now...for how long?And this was Al Queda...in Afghanistan...not Iraq.


what are the suggestions really? occupation is not feasible long term (americans would not stand for it back home that long and change gov't that would?)

the cost would bankrupt the US?

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Patrycja19
  Mar 31, 07, 10:58  #80

Quoting: FISZ
OK, so we just occupy them now...for how long?And this was Al Queda...in Afghanistan...not Iraq.



Theres more then just Al-queda out there, al-queda was the one we honed in on, but
theres other groups -cells- which exist and are in all the countries Pakistan, Iran, Iraq,
afganistan, and they might not all be part of osamas following, but they sure got
some issues with America , and were not occupying all their countries.

Plus, remember we had a soldier turned muslim who was helping al-queda and getting
our guys killed.

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Patrycja19
  Mar 31, 07, 11:06  #81

Quoting: daffy
what are the suggestions really? occupation is not feasible long term


its been long term already, The Iraq govt needs to step up and take over its own
and its never going to be like our country, which is what I think they are trying to
do. but theres to many who want power in their own country alone.

I couldnt tell you how many times I watch the TV and see one of their presidents
get asassinated. then someone else takes over. the only one who held any kind
of power was saddam, who knows how many times he was shot at.

I dont think our country is a mess I think their country is. our politics might be
but their daily lives must suck. theres no control.

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daffy
  Mar 31, 07, 11:09  #82

well im listening for withdrawel strategies so? (not sarcasm)

im curious to hear realistic strategy to aid Iraq's regeneration after the US (...and the coalition of the willing...) went 'in'

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FISZ
  Mar 31, 07, 11:09  #83

I'm wondering what Blair's going to do next. He has to impress Bush somehow.

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daffy
  Mar 31, 07, 11:11  #84

Quoting: FISZ
He has to impress Bush somehow.



dont we all

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Patrycja19
  Mar 31, 07, 11:15  #85

Quoting: daffy
well im listening for withdrawel strategies so? (not sarcasm)


Sigh *

maybe....... hopeful......soon.

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daffy
  Mar 31, 07, 11:18  #86

Quoting: Patrycja19
Sigh *


ah, i see :/ well, shouldn't it have been a consideration of the adminstration BEFORE going in|?

while saddam is not in my favorite books - the bush admin have been shown to have fabricated evidence of WMD's

I couldnt elect such a pres....

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Patrycja19
  Mar 31, 07, 11:26  #87

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I couldnt elect such a pres....


I didnt..... hes a result of cheating, his brother helping and for god sake, I hope
no one else will beg to be in his administration, these people hes picking are
not screened obviously, clinton was angel compared to all these guys who have
child porn , espianage, etc on their records now. uggghhh and arghhhhhh.

And the media brought the cheating to the attn of the public. Tanks media.
he got it anyway. I still love Clinton. and hillary has my vote.

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daffy
  Mar 31, 07, 11:41  #88

cool, fair enough, that answers one thing

but how to help iraq? iran...and resolve the conflict

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FISZ
  Mar 31, 07, 11:49  #89

Quoting: daffy
but how to help iraq? iran...and resolve the conflict

Play Tiddlywinks

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Patrycja19
  Mar 31, 07, 11:58  #90

Quoting: FISZ
Play Tiddlywinks



if it were only that easy...... Sigh* Again.

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