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Polish-American racism, as seen on PF

delphiandomine Threads: 54
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  ♂  :-( Jun 15, 2011, 01:54pm  #

Hello everyone,

I'd like to ask a simple question - is racism widespread among the Polish-American community?

From this forum, the following posters (all of whom identify as Polish-American) have been making such comments -

PolskiMoc:
You are British go back to Britain.

We don't want your Ugly, Snippy, Stupid, Obsessive Compulsive defects in Poland.

We don't want to risk your monkey genes to mix with our genes.

Keep your monkey genes on that Island where it belongs.


Des Essientes:
The man shearing the youths in the video looks exactly like alot of stupid conformist German-American idiots I have known


Havok:
The majority of the people on this forum, with a few exceptions, represent an ideal sample of the Polish population. Dumb'n'poor could pretty much summarize it.


RobertLee:
Some Jews evidently took yet other option, that is "Stay, don't integrate, betray the country, collaborate with the agressor against gentiles, pretend to be a victim" and you approve.


Among many, many other comments. Is such ugly racism widespread in America?
SeanBM Threads: 42
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  ♂   Edited by: SeanBM  Jun 15, 2011, 02:11pm  #

delphiandomine:
Is such ugly racism widespread in America?

Is the recent rise of racism/xenophobia due to economic scapegoating/scaremongering?
People on here seem to be fine with being Polish and American but those bloody Mexicans...

And Delphi, I am not very impressed with your quotes, I am sure you could have quoted far worse.
PolskiMoc Threads: 6
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  ♂  :-( Jun 15, 2011, 02:13pm  #

You have many Anti Polish comments yourself.

Your comment is anti Polish American prejudice.

I think you are seriously retarded.

You claim to hate prejudice. Yet, you think prejudice against Polish Americans is okay?

Does your brain work?

Proportionately Poland has much more Far Right Nationalists than the U.S does.

I don't find this to be a bad thing.

What is wrong with Poles wishing to preserve Poland for the Polish?
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  ♂   Edited by: SeanBM  Jun 15, 2011, 02:15pm  #

PolskiMoc:
Proportionately Poland has much more Far Right Nationalists than the U.S does.

Says who?

PolskiMoc:
What is wrong with Poles wishing to preserve Poland for the Polish?

You aren't here, are you?

i think what is wrong with keeping Poland Polish, is this slogan usually comes from people on here who have next to nothing to do with the country and speak out of their butts.
delphiandomine Threads: 54
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  ♂  :-( Edited by: delphiandomine  Jun 15, 2011, 02:15pm  #

SeanBM:
Is the recent rise of racism/xenophobia due to economic scapegoating/scaremongering?


I do wonder actually - especially with the state that the US is in, it's not surprising that racism would start to rise. But how would that explain the Polish-American racism on here?

SeanBM:
And Delphi, I am not very impressed with your quotes, I am sure you could have quoted far worse.


I know, but I was in a hurry before they get binned ;)

What's interesting to me is the utter hatred towards Jews by these Polish-Americans - could it be that, just like the language, they've kept the traditions of the grandfathers while European traditions have moved on? The Polish used in the USA is very old fashioned - as is the English - so could it be that they're simply stuck in a timewarp with their views?

(Mods : please don't delete any racism from this thread by Polish-Americans - it illustrates the point beautifully)
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  ♂  :-( Edited by: PolskiMoc  Jun 15, 2011, 02:17pm  #

SeanBM:
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PolskiMoc: Proportionately Poland has much more Far Right Nationalists than the U.S does.
Says who?


The statistics I have seen show there are more Neo Nazis in Poland than in the U.S

You have other Far Right Nationalists in Poland too.

When you count Polish Hooligans too there are much more Far Right Polish Organizations than the U.S

But I am for Far Right Polish Hooligans. They stood up to the Communists.
Today they stand up for Poland being Polish.
They are Polish Patriots.

Not like Deph the Fag Pipe Blower here. who talks smack about Poles all the time on this forum & wants to have Poland be taken over by Non Poles.

He should go back to Scotland where is Fag Pipe blowing Skirt wearing self belongs.
gontowski     Jun 15, 2011, 02:17pm  #

well that is our right to hate the british because all they do is call us dirty dole blugers and say we took there jobs when the real reason is we are harderworkers and just because some poles go around beating some races it doesnt mean every pole is like that my best mates black and replying to havok the polish in some countries are poor because we aernt greedy and we consider office jobs and stuff like that to be womans work if u are to get a office job your family would most likey laugh at you and for being for being stupid ive never met a dumb pole infact every pole ive met in my country(Australia) are the smartest people i know and i no alot of people
Harry Threads: 95
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delphiandomine:
could it be that, just like the language, they've kept the traditions of the grandfathers while European traditions have moved on? The Polish used in the USA is very old fashioned - as is the English - so could it be that they're simply stuck in a timewarp with their views?

I think that you may have hit the nail on the head there, delph.
JonnyM Threads: 15
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  ♂   Jun 15, 2011, 02:24pm  #

PolskiMoc:
Proportionately Poland has much more Far Right Nationalists than the U.S does.

I don't find this to be a bad thing.

What is wrong with Poles wishing to preserve Poland for the Polish?

How would you know what is bad or good for Poland?
SeanBM Threads: 42
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  ♂   Jun 15, 2011, 02:25pm  #

delphiandomine:
it's not surprising that racism would start to rise.

A good friend of mine asked me once, so this recession with the banks and all, now imagine people were starving and the bankers were Jews.
The rise of evil indeed.


delphiandomine:
But how would that explain the Polish-American racism on here?

I think it is everywhere, perhaps the PolAms are more vocal but that's about it.

delphiandomine:
What's interesting to me is the utter hatred towards Jews by these Polish-Americans

Have you seen the shite people put on Youtube? Anti Semitic drivel sold off as "WAKE UP TO REALITY!!!!".

On these occasions (for this is not the first), people stop trusting their governments and turn to any available source of alternative (youtube) media. And although I recommend not believing what you read but be critical, I find these people just switch off when it comes to applying the same criteria to youtube.
Any ass with a camera can make a youtube thingy, hell I have even done it :P

One of my mates at home, won't stop with Israel and Chemtrail and HARRP conspiracies.

There are very many conflicts in the world and yet these guys go on and on about Israel, who ******* cares about a place smaller than Wales? But it's all the ''alternative media'' is spewing.

Another one I hate, while I am at it, is "Living off the grid, mannn", = unemployable lazy fecker.
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  ♂   Jun 15, 2011, 02:26pm  #

Maybe you could try to find the full stop, comma and other punctuation marks on your keyboard. It reads a little easier.

And I can't seem to see the connection between "all they do is call us dirty dole blugers and say we took there jobs" and "when the real reason is we are harderworkers". The real reason for what?

And the last twenty or so words don't make a lot of sense either, to be honest ... :S
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  ♂   Jun 15, 2011, 02:28pm  #

PolskiMoc:
When you count Polish Hooligans too there are much more Far Right Polish Organizations than the U.S

But I am for Far Right Polish Hooligans. They stood up to the Communists.

Erm, it seems you don't realise that most of today's hools weren't even born during that time, and that the communist riot squads were made up of their forebears.

I invite you to Poland to see how it really is. You'd be surprised.
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  ♂   Edited by: SeanBM  Jun 15, 2011, 02:28pm  #

PolskiMoc:
The statistics I have seen show there are more Neo Nazis in Poland than in the U.S

Hmmmm.... interesting because I don't see Poland on Wiki's stats, oh look there's America.
Got those stats to show us?

PolskiMoc:
But I am for Far Right Polish Hooligans. They stood up to the Communists.

You're an idiot, if I don't reply to anything you write, it just means I would prefer to knock my head against the wall, repeatedly.
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JonnyM:
Erm, it seems you don't realise that most of today's hools weren't even born during that time, and that the communist riot squads were made up of their forebears.


Most Polish Hooligans today are still Anti Communist.

They might be a new generation of Poles.

But, Polish Hooligans are generally Polish Patriots.
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  ♂   Edited by: PennBoy  Jun 15, 2011, 02:33pm  #

delphiandomine:
is racism widespread among the Polish-American community?

Everyone is a little prejudice no matter where they come from. There's always certain people you prefer more to be around or with, if you say no you're lying to yourself. BTW, I know a Scottish girl who works in one of the bars in downtown Philly, she told me English folks are really racist, so don't talk about it like it's an American thing.
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  ♂   Edited by: SeanBM  Jun 15, 2011, 02:34pm  #

PolskiMoc:
Polish Hooligans are generally Polish Patriots.

Do you actually read what you write or does it just flow straight from your arse?
In 3 May 2004 Ruch Chorzów was playing a match with ŁKS, arch-rival of Widzew which hool's have friendship with Ruch firm Psycho Fans. Planned riots errupted in halftime. A lot of fans of three clubs were injuried also policemen (55 hospitalized), 12 police cars were devastated. Despite the capture of many hool's (over 100) Policja are still looking for participants in brawl. That was a gigant brawl.[7]


In March 2006 a Wisła Kraków fan was dragged from a car and stabbed to death, the eighth stabbing murder in twelve months of football hooligans in Poland.[2]

Football hooliganism in Poland


*off to bank my head against the wall*


PennBoy:
don't talk about it like it's an American thing.

I don't think it is, since the crises, I have noticed a rise in the far right in Europe.
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  ♂   Jun 15, 2011, 02:34pm  #

PolskiMoc:
Most Polish Hooligans today are still Anti Communist.

They might be a new generation of Poles.

But, Polish Hooligans are generally Polish Patriots.

Most Polish hooligans don't know the difference between one political theory and another - they often don't have the reading skills to handle a ballot paper. Which is why we don't have a right-wing government here.
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  ♂  :-( Edited by: PolskiMoc  Jun 15, 2011, 02:36pm  #

SeanBM:
Hmmmm.... interesting because I don't see Poland on Wiki's stats, oh look there's America.
Got those stats to show us?


Poland's neo-Nazi skinhead scene was estimated at some 2,000 active members in 1995.

In 1988, there were approximately 2,000 neo-Nazi skinheads in the US

I think I recall one statistic from the mid 90's that said the U.S had 1,500 neo nazis but I can't find it.

at any rate Poland has more Neo Nazis than the U.S does proportionately.

JonnyM:
Most Polish hooligans don't know the difference between one political theory and another - they often don't have the reading skills to handle a ballot paper. Which is why we don't have a right-wing government here.


Eh, There are probably more dumb ones. I have met some Polish Hooligans who were extremely smart actually.

One Ex Polish Hooligan I met was living in America & He knew more about American history on arrival than most Americans do who have lived here for 70 years.

I think Slavs in general are more multi talented than Western Europeans.

In Western Europe almost all tough people are retards & almost all smart people are wimps.

It is not like that with Slavs so much. Like Doctor Klitschko the boxer
Des Essientes Threads: 9
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  ♂   Jun 15, 2011, 02:42pm  #

I am not a racist. The quote from me, in the original post of this thread, expresses my observation that a German Nazi shown in the video of the original post of a thread entitled "Polish Pig German Traitor" has a smug intolerant look on his face that I have seen before here in America on the faces of politically right-wing racially intolerant German-Americans that I have had the misfortune to know. I was not condemning all, nor most, German-Americans.
SeanBM:
Is the recent rise of racism/xenophobia due to economic scapegoating/scaremongering?

Yes, Sean, here in the USA there was a debate amongst the rightist presidential candidates yesterday and their pandering to the xenophobia their voter base was apalling.
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  ♂   Jun 15, 2011, 02:42pm  #

PolskiMoc:
at any rate Poland has more Neo Nazis than the U.S does proportionately.

Got any stats because I don't believe you.
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Des Essientes:
I am not a racist.


Really?

Because they have been negotiating the 2 state solution for 20 years and all that time the Zionists have been illegally settling the territory that the 2nd state is suppossed to occupy. Plastic, it is estimated that 2/3 of the money donated to Democrats for their election campaigns comes from Jews and 1/3 of the money donated to Republican candidates comes from Jews. Until there is campaign finance reform in America the Jewish minority will have our politicians in their pockets and this means that the Palestinians will remain dispossesed, because when it comes to their ethnic state in Palestine American Jews, who are otherwise mostly liberal and enlightened, become irrational racists.

More racism.
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  ♂   Edited by: SeanBM  Jun 15, 2011, 02:48pm  #

PolskiMoc:
I just showed you statistics

No, you posted what you "thought".
Can you see the difference?

*I'm off to bang my head against a wall, it's more enjoyable than reading your drivel*
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SeanBM

No I did post statistics you retarded British isle ape creature.

In 1988, there were approximately 2,000 neo-Nazi skinheads in the US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_power_skinhead

Poland's neo-Nazi skinhead scene was estimated at some 2,000 active members in 1995.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right_in_Poland

I posted the links since your British Isle Monkey paws or retarded British Isle brain can't post them into google for the source.

Now I know you are retarded. But bare with me.

That staitistic shows Poland has a much higher proportion of Neo Nazis than the U.S

Because the U.S has approx 9 times more people than Poland.

Got it?
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PolskiMoc, what do you think about the fact that there's a black person from Nigeria in the Polish Parliament?
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  ♂   Edited by: Des Essientes  Jun 15, 2011, 02:57pm  #

delphiandomine:
More racism

No, not racism but rather a statement of the actual political situation in the USA. I am anti-Zionist because Zionism is a racist movement that denies rights to Palestinians that it grants to Jews. I believe that there should be equal rights for everyone in Palestine. Nothing I wrote in the statement you quoted was racist. Jewish-Americans can, and should, be criticized for misusing the influence they have in setting the foreign policy of the USA if they use it to perpetuate a racist regime in Palestine.
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  ♂  :-( Jun 15, 2011, 03:01pm  #

delphiandomine:
PolskiMoc, what do you think about the fact that there's a black person from Nigeria in the Polish Parliament?


Black people don't belong in Poland.

We don't need anymore Simon Mol

The aids epidemic likely was bought to Russia by African Students.
alexw68     Jun 15, 2011, 03:03pm  #

Des Essientes:

No, not racism but rather a statement of the actual political situation in the USA. I am anti-Zionist because Zionism is a racist movement that denies rights to Palestinians that it grants to Jews. I believe that there should be equal rights for everyone in Palestine. Nothing I wrote in the statement you quoted was racist. Jewish-Americans can, and should, be criticized for misusing the influence they have in setting the foreign policy of the USA if they use it to perpetuate a racist regime in Palestine.

A reasonable position (which leaves the question of whether one agrees with it open). Fair enough.

But does that remark today about what the Greeks should have done to Paul in Ephesus really stand shoulder to shoulder with it?
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  ♂   Jun 15, 2011, 03:12pm  #

alexw68:
But does that remark today about what the Greeks should have done to Paul in Ephesus really stand shoulder to shoulder with it?

I said the Ephesians should've done more than just shout Paul down if they wanted to stay true to the great goddess Artemis and keep their pagan faith. I didn't advocate violence nor specify any actions that they should've taken whatsoever. A Greek poster had claimed, perhaps jokingly, that the loss of their classical dieties was traumatic for them and that was my response. Where is the racism in that?
alexw68     Jun 15, 2011, 03:14pm  #

Des Essientes:
I didn't advocate violence nor specify any actions that they should've taken whatsoever.

Fair 'nuff. Cheers for clarification :)
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  ♂   Jun 15, 2011, 03:20pm  #

Yet another anti-Polish thread made by delphiandomine with blessing of mods
here is one sample of his creativity, (Oct 27, 10, 22:58)
Polack/American Polonia/Plastic Pole "culture" #1PF
Plus you all can check how many times he called Poles Polacks. He, Soobieski and Harry are known bashers.
Harry:
I think that you may have hit the nail on the head there, delph.

I wonder where is sobieski? In synagoga or he steal the money from Poles.



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