Would like to move back to Poland from New York after living in USA for 20 years.

Jeezus...........never let little things like facts and realities get in the way of your agendas.

The national average for a home loan is $222,261 with a $1,061 average monthly payment for a 30-year mortgage at 4 percent, according to LendingTree. (2012, realtor.org)

realtormag.realtor.org/daily-news/2012/01/03/what-does-average-home-owner-pay-mortgage

you want facts? here are your facts: city-data.com/city/Madison-New-Jersey.html

scroll down to "detached houses", which is the cost of a house. not a condo, not a townhouse, a HOUSE. $799,228.


doubt all you want.


people with $800,000 homes in towns with sky high property taxes, I assure you, are far from "average professional couples".

have a look at this: trulia.com/property/3133600296-115-Woodland-Rd-Madison-NJ-07940

That's a 63 year old house for sale in Madison, NJ, a little above the average house value. 1/2 acre of land. Taxes per year? $13,606. For those that struggle with math, that's over $1,000/month, just for your property taxes. Now try and pay the mortgage. Oh, and try and convince anyone that's for the "average couple".

One more thing.....anyone on here ever heard of The Mall at Short Hills? It's in a number of Hollywood movies and is well known throughout the USA for being one of the swankiest and nicest malls in the country.....which just so happens to be RIGHT down the road from the center of Madison, NJ.

Just for gits and shiggles, I Google Mapped it.....8 minutes. hop on Route 124 from Main St., 8 minutes and you're parked right outside Saks Fifth Avenue.

Merged: Polish born New Yorker who wants to move back to Poland!!

Hello All!

First post on here, so I apologize ahead of time for anything I may do that is frowned upon.

So I was born in Poland, Grajewo to be exact in the Mazury region. Moved to NY when I was about 5. So its safe to say I grew up in the US. Parents always made me speak Polish which at the time I did not like, but looking back at it now at age 23, was a true blessing. I would go back often to visit family and my stays have gotten longer and longer as I get older. I spent 3 months there this past summer. So my point is, I am 2 classes away from finishing my bachelors in Economics. I also just started a job with J.P. Morgan Chase as a Relationship Banker in Copiague, a strong Polish town on Long Island, NY. I am dying to get back to Poland!!! Everytime I spend time there, I leave in tears. I am so much happier there. Now I think I do still have citizenship since I was born there, and I speak the language very well, esp considering how long Ive lived in the US. Reading and writing are not terrible, but need improvment, but not anything that I cant easily learn. I have a big network of family and friends in Poland, but no one that could directly help me with a Finance/Banking job. Any suggestions?? Can anyone share what someone with a bachelors, very fluent bi-lingual ability, a impressive Resume and superb interpersonal and hard work skill/ethics make in a entry-level/just above entry level Investment Banking, Corporate Banking, or this type of position? Any help is appreciated!!

That degree is not worth very much on the Polish job market without abundant heavy-duty experience. Everybody, their mother and their dog seem to have a degree in economics in Poland. Pretty close to the top of the list of useless majors in Poland, right up there with psychology and philosophy. Read an interview with the minister for the economy a few years back, and he said that if Poland stopped granting degrees in economics altogether, there would not be a shortage of economics grads for thirty years.

Competition for entry level and junior positions is therefore incredibly fierce, and wages are abysmal, especially in a place like Grajewo, which is in the one of the poorest parts of the country. Lots of people are willing to work for nothing at all in unpaid internships, just to get their foot in the door.

Sorry to disappoint you, but if you want to make it in Poland, the only reasonable option is to get hired by a Western company, and get transferred to Poland at Western wages. That would be a lot easier to do with an IT or engineering degree, or with a masters in a math-heavy and very-much-in-demand economics-related field like econometrics, financial mathematics, financial engineering or actuarial science. You're not going to get very far with just a bachelors in economics.

So your dream of moving back to Poland is not totally unrealistic, just unrealistic until you acquire some serious qualifications and experience. Spend the next five to ten years working on that, and it will be much easier for you to pursue a promising career in Poland.

By the way, I moved to Poland for a twelve-year long sabbatical myself. It was great fun because I had degrees, qualifications and experience that put me in great demand, and plenty of savings. Poland is a great country to live in if you have cash and something truly useful to keep you occupied. Otherwise, it can be quite depressing.

Thank you for your reply