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Views of Poles in UK on Bulgarians/Romanians coming here?


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z_darius
  Nov 6, 07, 12:20  #31

it's smaller

 
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anuska
  Nov 6, 07, 14:20  #32

when people post conversations like this it always ends up like people slagging people off then the name calling starts when at the end of the day there is no need for it why post on here if things are gonna turn nasty

 
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Michal
  Nov 6, 07, 15:01  #33

Quoting: z_darius
t's smaller

A bit. Poland is 312,679 km squared and Romania has 238,391 km squared-still a large country. Obviously Poland has a much larger population but then again, Poland has stolen a lot of land in the West which belongs rightfully to Germany, so the argument of true size is open to question. It was interesting as soon as Germany gained 'independence' the Poles were very quick to start quibbling over future boundaries so obviously it is a sore point with the Poles and a continued thorn in their side!.

 
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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Nov 6, 07, 15:03  #34

Quoting: Michal
A bit. Poland is 312,679 km squared and Romania has 238,391 km squared-still a large country. Obviously Poland has a much larger population but then again, Poland has stolen a lot of land in the West which belongs rightfully to Germany, so the argument of true size is open to question. It was interesting as soon as Germany gained 'independence' the Poles were very quick to start quibbling over future boundaries so obviously it is a sore point with the Poles and a continued thorn in their side!.



Russian provokation

 
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Michal
  Nov 6, 07, 15:07  #35

Quoting: anuska
when people post conversations like this it always ends up like people slagging people off then the name calling starts when at the end of the day there is no need for it why post on here if things are gonna turn nasty

I think it all starts from the following topic. Ja mam wielki dom i wielki ogrodek. Ja jestem bardzo gruby a wiec jestem wielki i, oczywiscie, mam bardzo wielki rower tez. Mam zone i troje dzieci to znaczy, ze moja rodzina jest wielka. Moj silnik w samochodzie jest wielki poniewaz samochod jest wielki. Do not ask me what all this is about. Of course, my daughter, being born in England speaks fluent polish without the slightest hint of an accent and as for her Russian, well, when she goes out most people mistake her for one of Gorbachov's daughters!

 
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Michal
  Nov 6, 07, 15:09  #36

Quoting: Lukasz
Russian provokation

Not in the slightest! Szczecin is a German city and always was. Poland has no claim to this land. If Poland has a claim, why was Poland so quick off the mark to reiterate the official borders between the two countries?

 
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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Nov 6, 07, 15:11  #37


 
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Michal
  Nov 6, 07, 15:13  #38

Thanks, nice map.

 
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Michal
  Nov 6, 07, 15:16  #39

Quoting: anuska
there is no need for it why post on here if things are gonna turn nasty

Probably, because after so many years of isolation in the Communist period, some people feel they need to try and 'flex their mussels' a little in the new free World. They simply lack the maturity that we in the West have. It is like alcohol, it just goes to these people's heads, we, on the other hand, are used to our environment for so many generations.

 
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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Nov 6, 07, 15:18  #40

I have changed my post ... I dont want to let some peple destroy all discussions ....

Michal for me you dont exist

 
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Michal
  Nov 6, 07, 15:21  #41

Quoting: Lukasz
BTW I m not going to discusse with you ... it is borring

Yes, it is boring. I am not Russian, either.

 
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johan123
  Nov 6, 07, 15:29  #42

Quoting: Michal
Yes, it is boring. I am not Russian, either.


Hi Michal

Save your breath...You'll need it to blow up your date.

 
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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Nov 6, 07, 15:35  #43

BTW I dont think our discussion sticks to the subject

 
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johan123
  Nov 6, 07, 15:38  #44

Quoting: Lukasz
Michal for me you dont exist


Don't worry ! I will chat to Mike.

 
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Grzegorz_
  Nov 6, 07, 15:46  #45

Quoting: Michal
I am not Russian, either.


We know what you are.

 
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z_darius
Edited by: z_darius  Nov 6, 07, 16:00  #46

Quoting: Michal
Poland has stolen a lot of land in the West which belongs rightfully to Germany, so the argument of true size is open to question.

That land was stolen by USSR and given to Poland, to compensate (partly only) for lands USSR stole from Poland.

 
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Lukasz
Edited by: Lukasz  Nov 6, 07, 16:05  #47

Quoting: z_darius
That land was stolen by USSR and given to Poland, to compensate for lands USSR stole from Poland.


z_darius, just ignore his provokations becuase in this way we are going to destroy all topics on this forum by arguing about issues which dont stick to the subject. as to me the end of this discussion can be moved to USSR talks ;)

 
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postie
  Nov 6, 07, 16:56  #48

Thanks Lukasz,

the topic is Views of Poles in UK on Bulgarians/Romanians coming here?...

In case anyone was distracted by pretty maps and pissing contests :)

 
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Amazed [Guest]
  Nov 8, 07, 04:11  #49

It was the 700,000 Poles coming over here that ruined it for the Bulgarians in the first place. The Poles should be happy enough with the working restrictions placed on Bulgarians (young well-educated Bulgarians with perfect English that will positively impact economy etc) Theoverall effect of the Polish influx is positive, let the Bulgarians in too! (plus I prefer brunettes)

The majority of Bulgarians that I know (after living there) do not want to come here. They have seen the British tourists misbehaving on their Black Sea coast and are horrified by the thought of being surrounded by their people. The quality of life in Bulgaria is very good. I have never been to Poland but I do wonder after seeing homeless bums from Poland on the street in London - no offence intended but can someone here explain that?? The Bulgarians would never let themselves down like this - way too proud.

Plus look at the population of Poland - 40 million, compared to 8 million Bulgarians (they are not called Bulgars by the way thats the steppe tribe that interbred with the Slavs over a millennia ago.

Points systems based on education and skills is the only way. Drastic times call for drastic measures.

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Paul Honnête [Guest]
  Nov 18, 07, 14:52  #50

I completely agree with you about the Bulgarian people, and with that other poster who had spoken about the Romanians further above. I can't quite understand the mentality of the Polish people. They are proud too, believe me, however some of them seem to have a very low degree of self esteem. I have been to Dublin too and my heart bled when I saw one of my compatriots begging in front of a restaurant. However he did not really look like somebody for whom begging was the last stop before ending in a gutter. Most probabably he was one of those people preying on others emotions. Now comparing to those "disfavoured" new european countries, it is true that they are less vociferous in what they do, and never have i seen or heard any unpleasant stories about them. Are we, the Poles, a nation of such extreme mental diversity, that will never allow to create a good opinion (since people have tendency to notice and base themselves only on the bad opinions and facts )?

 
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Foreigner4
  Nov 19, 07, 04:03  #51

Y'know Paul, your post gave me pause to remember a few situations from my stay in UK:

I couldn't help but wonder, while living in London, at what would possess someone to go from their home country to live on the streets and be a general waste of space and a complete nuisance in another country, and not even have a clue about he language mind you.

That'd be like me emigrating to Sweden and then just pissing everybody off and not even bother to learn the language-wtf?

I'm not sure you could pole (no pun intended) the majority of Poles in the UK about Bulgarians as you'd need translators for everything. Actually that's a heck of an idea for a business if anyone hasn't thought of it.

That'd b

 
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sapphire
  Nov 19, 07, 08:44  #52

Well Im English, but here is my 2p worth.. A Bulgarian stole my phone in London and a Roma woman tried to nick my wallet.. they are also undercutting the Polish workforce so my partner has more difficulty finding work.. so for me, they can all go home.

 
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postie
  Nov 19, 07, 15:51  #53

Quoting: sapphire
so my partner has more difficulty finding work.. so for me, they can all go home.


The very same can be said of the Poles coming here. And as you very well know, I aint got a problem with that..... you can't draw the ladder up after you.

See what I mean?

 
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southern
Edited by: southern  Nov 19, 07, 16:56  #54

Avoid romanians by any cost.They are real crooks.
Bulgarians are O.K.They are hardworking(except the gypsies etc).

 
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lennyd [Guest]
  Nov 27, 07, 17:08  #55

Quoting: sapphire
undercutting the Polish workforce

what about the polish undercutting the british workforce , that's ok i guess ? idiot

 
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southern
  Nov 27, 07, 17:21  #56

We have to admit romanian girls work really hard to get at the same level with polish beauties.



 
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lukasz2507
  Nov 27, 07, 17:26  #57

Quoting: southern
We have to admit romanian girls work really hard to get at the same level with polish beauties.



you are a pylon

 
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LondonChick
  Nov 27, 07, 17:27  #58

Tsk Southern.... is this the best that you can do this evening?... the quality was much better over the weekend

 
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lukasz2507
  Nov 27, 07, 17:31  #59

Quoting: Michal
A bit. Poland is 312,679 km squared and Romania has 238,391 km squared-still a large country. Obviously Poland has a much larger population but then again, Poland has stolen a lot of land in the West which belongs rightfully to Germany, so the argument of true size is open to question. It was interesting as soon as Germany gained 'independence' the Poles were very quick to start quibbling over future boundaries so obviously it is a sore point with the Poles and a continued thorn in their side!.

retard

 
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southern
  Nov 27, 07, 17:33  #60

Quoting: LondonChick

Tsk Southern.... is this the best that you can do this evening?... the quality was much better over the weekend


O.K.Another romanian contribution.



 
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