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osiol
  Apr 19, 08, 18:52  #121

PinkJewel:
Scotland

PinkJewel:
England

Where are you? What makes you think you can accuse England of being so bad whilst saintly Scotland isn't the hjome of people like noimmigration?

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PinkJewel
  Apr 19, 08, 18:57  #122

Oh noimmigration, one person.

I am pointing out that those who are claiming Britain thinks this and Britain thinks that are actually talking about England.

BTW - I know you aren't included in the anti-Polish brigade.

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tornado2007
  Apr 19, 08, 18:59  #123

PinkJewel:

BTW - I know you aren't included in the anti-Polish brigade.

i don't actually think there are many anti-polish, they are just confused

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miranda
  Apr 19, 08, 18:59  #124

PinkJewel, good post and cool head. Nice pics BTW.

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PinkJewel
  Apr 19, 08, 19:05  #125

miranda:
PinkJewel, good post and cool head. Nice pics BTW.


Thanks on both counts :)

tornado2007:
i don't actually think there are many anti-polish, they are just confused


Well, I'm not sure about that one. I think rather than anti-Polish then, they may be anti-immigration...

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tornado2007
  Apr 19, 08, 19:07  #126

PinkJewel:


Well, I'm not sure about that one. I think rather than anti-Polish then, they may be anti-immigration...

yes maybe some are anti-immigrant, not immigration, i think there is an important difference here. People like myself are anti-immigration, meaning we think the policy is wrong and needs to be changed. Being anti-immigrant is against the people themselves which i can say i am not against any individuals who enter this country.

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osiol
  Apr 19, 08, 19:09  #127

PinkJewel:
I know you aren't included in the anti-Polish brigade.

I realise trhat, but my own personal experience suggests that England is not very anti-Polish. Is my England too small? Am I in my own little world?

The anti-Polish brigade are the 'There ain't no black in the union jack' brigade, the 'the French are garlic-eating surrender monkeys' brigade, the 'Gerries are all Nazis depsite the fact that we're the real fascists now' brigade. Why give their pathertic views such weight?

And since when has Scotland been so wonderful in comparison?

I am a working class Englishman (albeit one who believes in his own self-education) and in my place of work, there is a Polish chap who seems popular with everyone, as well as a few others from other odd corners of the globe. There is also a new colleague who is engaged to a Polish girl. The other Poles we have had at work have generally been seen in a favourable light, particularly in comparison with some of the other temps we have seen over the last few years.

I was served in one of my favourite old pubs this evening by a Polish lady (I didn't know she was Polish back when I used to drink there about four years ago), and she is liked by the regular drinkers and so oin and so on and so on

and so on and so on...

THE PEOPLE WHO MOAN ABOUT POLES ARE JUST XENOPHOBIC W@NKERS WHO DON'T EVEN LIKE THEMSELVES.

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z_darius
  Apr 19, 08, 22:51  #128

Mali:
Can you reword this? It does not make sense....common or otherwise.

He's a lawyer. He's not supposed to make sense.

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Matyjasz
  Apr 20, 08, 01:56  #129

commonsense:
Polish people or any migrants should not be allowed ANY benefits. If you cannot find work you should go home.


Polish people are entitled to claim benefits only after they have worked and paid taxes for over a year.


BubbaWoo:
immigration is obviously a concern for many in the uk. ignoring it or labling people who dare to mention it as racists does nothing to address the problem, and it is a problem, and a growing one.


commonsense:

Kilkline, I raise my views as I am a subject of the British Crown. I am a British citizen and unlike Poles, I can vote to change Her Majesty's governments. My opinion is the most important to the government, not a Polish or any other migrant.



Alright than, how can I help you?

May I just add that I am a citizen of Rzeczpospolita Polska without any rights that could change Her Majesty's government and alter its immigration policy what so ever.

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Bartolome
  Apr 20, 08, 03:21  #130

tornado2007:

i don't actually think there are many anti-polish, they are just confused

Yeah, imho 'a Pole' is a synonym of 'immigrant' for them. As if there weren't others, legal or illegal, trying to get into your country.

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szkotja2007
Edited by: szkotja2007  Apr 20, 08, 05:41  #131

osiol:
And since when has Scotland been so wonderful in comparison?

The following is a link to a previous post in which the request was genuine......
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osiol
  Apr 20, 08, 06:44  #132

You forgot to include all the warm welcomes from all those lovely Neds.

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Sophia
  Apr 20, 08, 07:07  #133

PinkJewel:
Scotland welcomes immigrants.

Not all of it. Noimmigration is Scottish remember, and I know plenty of people who express the feelings of the OP. I wish they wouldn't express it to me. I hear it often in my workplace, especially since a recent experience in another department of my job. I experienced a lot of bitterness towards Polish and other workers not born here.

On the other hand, the problem does seem to be less here [and it may be just my area which is particularly bad with this bitterness] as people from other areas of Scotland on the forum have expressed the same view you have.

Though, I think someone once said this may be due to proportion.

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Wroclaw Boy
  Apr 20, 08, 07:08  #134

osiol:
THE PEOPLE WHO MOAN ABOUT POLES ARE JUST XENOPHOBIC W@NKERS WHO DON'T EVEN LIKE THEMSELVES.

Actually the majority of British people who have issues with Poles are being financially affected by their immigration to the UK.

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Daisy
  Apr 20, 08, 07:17  #135

Sophia:
Noimmigration is Scottish remember

Yes, and he has his own thread and didn't get suspended after the awful things he said about the Lithuanian girl whose body was cut up and dumped

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Sophia
  Apr 20, 08, 07:22  #136

Daisy:
awful things he said about the Lithuanian girl whose body was cut up and dumped

I never saw that. He is a very twisted individual. I thought he couldn't get any worse after his other 'joke' about the Polish woman.

Things like this - I find it to be ruining the forum.

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szarlotka
Edited by: szarlotka  Apr 20, 08, 07:28  #137

Sophia:
Things like this - I find it to be ruining the forum.


Unfortunately I tend to agree with you Sophia. I was just reading through the recent posts with a view to updating the Omnibus Edition. There are so many outbreaks of intolerance, ignorance and downright insulting/vicious behaviour that I gave up. It's becoming a slanging forum. I know we have had debates on this in the past but this time I think it has gone too far. Not much hope for the world when people are so crystallised in their opinions and reluctant to even try to listen.

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Sophia
  Apr 20, 08, 07:33  #138

szarlotka:
I was just reding through the recent posts with a view to updating the Omnibus Edition.

I'd guess it is hard to find amusing things or interesting things on the forum to sum up when there is so much negativity, and most of it expressed in such a horrific way.

I hope it passes.

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Daisy
  Apr 20, 08, 08:35  #139

I did think of starting a thread "let's all be nice to one another" but then I thought why bother, people would only end up fighting and arguing anyway :(

I think I might go and watch Eastenders Omnibus edition, less violence on that

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Matyjasz
  Apr 20, 08, 08:38  #140

szarlotka:

Unfortunately I tend to agree with you Sophia. I was just reading through the recent posts with a view to updating the Omnibus Edition. There are so many outbreaks of intolerance, ignorance and downright insulting/vicious behaviour that I gave up. It's becoming a slanging forum. I know we have had debates on this in the past but this time I think it has gone too far. Not much hope for the world when people are so crystallised in their opinions and reluctant to even try to listen.



It is interesting how easily one can draw a line between people using differences among them, like in this case nationality, and set people against each other.

What saddens me the most is that some people might think that those animosities between poles and brits on this forum look the same in the real life. I must say that aside of few chavs and some british men with their subtle patronizing attitude at the beginning of our meeting, I have nothing but good memories of the UK and its people.

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szarlotka
  Apr 20, 08, 08:45  #141

Matyjasz:
I have nothing but good memories of the UK and its people.


And I have nothing but good memories of Poland and its people. Yes there were some difficulties in adapting to life there but aren't there always?

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Matyjasz
  Apr 20, 08, 08:57  #142

szarlotka:
And I have nothing but good memories of Poland and its people. Yes there were some difficulties in adapting to life there but aren't there always?



Than maybe there is hope for mankind after all.

Eeekhhem... we better stop right now szarlotka or things may get emotional.

Our friendship was just not ment to be. ;)


PS: Now I know how Romeo must have felt. :)

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szarlotka
  Apr 20, 08, 09:01  #143

Matyjasz:
Our friendship was just not ment to be. ;)


LOL - the proverbial 'ships that passed in the night'...

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Grzegorz_
  Apr 20, 08, 09:06  #144

szarlotka:
It's becoming a slanging forum.


That's because Admin is a gay and don't do things, which should be done...

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Matyjasz
  Apr 20, 08, 09:08  #145

szarlotka:
LOL - the proverbial 'ships that passed in the night'...



That's just beautiful. heheheh :)

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Daisy
  Apr 20, 08, 09:10  #146

As if I wasn't depressed enough, now you too are going to make me cry!

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Matyjasz
  Apr 20, 08, 09:30  #147

Daisy:
As if I wasn't depressed enough, now you too are going to make me cry!



Don't cry. One day we will all meet on that beautiful little island up there, in the sky, where the immigration policy will be top notch and none shall clean thou toilet… ;P

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tornado2007
  Apr 20, 08, 09:32  #148

Matyjasz:

Don't cry. One day we will all meet on that beautiful little island up there, in the sky, where the immigration policy will be top notch and none shall clean thou toilet… ;P

Matyjasz:

Don't cry. One day we will all meet on that beautiful little island up there, in the sky, where the immigration policy will be top notch and none shall clean thou toilet… ;P

lol, toilets will always need cleaning though, it just remains to be decided by who :)

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Seanus
  Apr 20, 08, 11:11  #149

Matyjasz, u didn't really answer commensense's position. He said that Polish people should not be allowed any benefits. U said, rightly, that they are but u didn't address his position of SHOULDN'T be entitled. What's ur take?

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Mister H
  Apr 20, 08, 14:35  #150

osiol:
THE PEOPLE WHO MOAN ABOUT POLES ARE JUST XENOPHOBIC W@NKERS WHO DON'T EVEN LIKE THEMSELVES.


That's a pretty cheap shot there.

My views on immigration are not based on xenophobia or prejudice. They're just based on having to live with a system that's biased in favour of everyone else but the British.

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