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Want to live and work in Poland, but it is not possible?


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cloud
  Feb 25, 07, 03:10  #1

am I going to appear a bit dim here? I am living with a Polish man. I want us to live in Poland, but he says it is impossible as he has to 'register' for work in two places and can't for legal reasons. Can this be true or am I being fobbed off? Because of the language barrier between us - he speaks english but a lot is lost, I can't quite grasp what he is trying to tell me and it's causing us to argue. I would just like someone to explain what the Polish law is on living and workng in Poland, is it so different to England?
I hope there is someone out there who can help. Thank you to anone who can

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Grzegorz_
Edited by: Grzegorz_  Feb 25, 07, 04:10  #2

Hi.

Quoting: cloud
I would just like someone to explain what the Polish law is on living and workng in Poland


All EU citizens may live and work here.


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daffy
  Feb 25, 07, 04:29  #3

Quoting: cloud
can't for legal reasons


Bull,

As Grzegorz says, all EU citizens may live and work in Poland.
He may just not want to go back
He is more than likely making more money where you are (you didnt say where)
and doesnt wish to return for this (or other reasons)

But its not about legal reasons (involving work)

Taxation CAN come into it. BUT if yer man gets his finished working form in IRE/GB and goes back to Poland he is prob afraid of paying tax on earned wages twices. This just cannot happen.

There are double taxtation treaties between all EU countries. If he must subsequently pay Polish income tax on his return, he claims back the tax he paid in the IRE/GB.

hope this helps

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Matyjasz
  Feb 25, 07, 04:37  #4

People that started to work outside Poland from the 1st January 2007 don't have to pay another tax in Poland. They only pay the one from the country they have worked in.


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cloud
  Feb 25, 07, 08:34  #5

Are you saying that you don't have to register (as a Pole) to work in Poland? He has been living here for seven years (In London). He supports his wife financially, - because she can't go back to Poland and get work because of him. I can't see how he can't work there but can work here, surely that must be illegal? I am now frightened that there is something else he isn't telling me. I really do appreciate your comments. Don't hold back! I am rapidly becoming aware that i am about to uncover something I would rather ignore, but i need to know. thanks for your help

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cloud
  Feb 25, 07, 08:53  #6

This site is becoming an obsesssion - there is so much information here. I was really looking forward to going to Poland. I love my Polish guy to bits, but I know he is lying to me - about what I don't know yet. So sadly I think we have reached the parting of the ways.

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Grzegorz_
  Feb 25, 07, 09:00  #7

Quoting: cloud
He has been living here for seven years (In London). He supports his wife financially, - because she can't go back to Poland and get work because of him.


Wow. Amost like a Brazilian soap opera


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daffy
  Feb 25, 07, 09:03  #8

cloud - it would seem there is more than meets the eye.

it would seem ye need to either, say nothing, put up with it.
leave
or confront and see what happens?

there are other options too, i just dont know the whole story...



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Matyjasz
  Feb 25, 07, 09:07  #9

Quoting: cloud
Are you saying that you don't have to register (as a Pole) to work in Poland? He has been living here for seven years (In London). He supports his wife financially, - because she can't go back to Poland and get work because of him. I can't see how he can't work there but can work here, surely that must be illegal?



Hmm I'm not sure why he says he can't work here, but I do understand why he doesn't wan to go back. If he does he will have to pay the back tax. Only people that started to work after the 1st January 2007 don't have to pay the double tax in Poland. 7 years? That would cost a fortune.


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Grzegorz_
  Feb 25, 07, 09:14  #10

Quoting: Matyjasz
If he does he will have to pay the back tax.


Theoretically yes, but in practice how tax office will know that he worked in UK ? Besides tax office can claim taxes only 2 or 3 years back.


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Matyjasz
Edited by: Matyjasz  Feb 25, 07, 09:22  #11

Quoting: Grzegorz_
Besides tax office can claim taxes only 2 or 3 years back.



That's a relief. Few of my friends received letters from the Urząd Skarbowy here in Poland with the warrant to pay the back tax. One lived in GB for 10 years and always have paid the tax in the UK so probably that’s how they tracked him.


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cloud
  Feb 25, 07, 09:34  #12

Thanks for the advice so far............... it is not in my character to 'put up and shut up'. Now I'm on a quest. I have to get to the bottom of it. hang in there everyone for the next installment!!

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Grzegorz_
  Feb 25, 07, 09:36  #13

Quoting: Matyjasz
Few of my friends received letters from the Urząd Skarbowy here in Poland with the warrant to pay the back tax. One lived in GB for 10 years and always have paid the tax in the UK so probably that’s how they tracked him.


Interesting, I know a few people, who worked in UK and nothing like that happened, although of course they didn't pay tax here.


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Bartolome
  Feb 25, 07, 09:39  #14

Well, if I had a woman and a good job here I wouldn't like to come back. And it's strange that he's been living in the UK for 7 years, has a British partner and you still face a language barrier in contacts wit him.

Welcome to PL Forums.


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cloud
  Feb 25, 07, 09:43  #15

It's not a huge language problem - just sometims I say things in a way he doesn't understand - and I've only been with him for 18 months. I'm trying to learn polish, but not getting on very well. Not the easiest of languages to get your head round.

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cloud
  Feb 25, 07, 09:45  #16

would his wife be able to go back and work/live in Warsaw? Would she be 'hit' for earnings he's made here in the uk? Are there 'spous' laws?

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Bartolome
Edited by: Bartolome  Feb 25, 07, 09:58  #17

Well, perhaps one of the reasons is he doesn't want to face his own or/and his wife's family - after all he left his spouse, let alone for a foreigner, what in Poland may be still a cause for a massive condemnation.


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Bartolome
  Feb 25, 07, 10:04  #18

Quoting: cloud
would his wife be able to go back and work/live in Warsaw? Would she be 'hit' for earnings he's made here in the uk? Are there 'spous' laws?

Some time ago (two years or something), there was introduced a law in Poland, that forbids prosecuting for partner's debts (I don't know whether it applies in that case, though). I'm not an expert, but I guess that she can go back to Poland without any fear for being prosecuted.


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