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War too risky nowadays?


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El Gato
  Feb 1, 08, 16:56  #1

I've come to the conclusion that war has become too risky for the developed countries of the world. Nuclear weapons have taken the "fun" out of it for powerhouse countries like the US, Russia, UK, etc.

They know that if they go to war with another country that has nuclear weapons, or allies with nukes, that it is just a bad idea. This leaves undeveloped countries like Iraq the only "safe" targets for war. Anybody agree?


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plk123
  Feb 1, 08, 17:01  #2

yup, punking on the weaker nations seems to have become the status quo.. although we're not really punking on Irq or Afghan.. we think we are but in reality we're not..


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Przemas
  Feb 1, 08, 17:04  #3

God bless nuclear arsenal.

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El Gato
  Feb 1, 08, 17:06  #4

plk123 wrote:
yup, punking on the weaker nations seems to have become the status quo.. although we're not really punking on Irq or Afghan.. we think we are but in reality we're not..



It's actually really sad that a country like the US hasn't finished this war after the first year.

Horrible planning, insufficient support, and stupid leaders made a horrible combo for a war...


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AvJoeUK [Guest]
Edited by: AvJoeUK  Feb 1, 08, 17:10  #5

El Gato wrote:
It's actually really sad that a country like the US hasn't finished this war after the first year.

Horrible planning, insufficient support, and stupid leaders made a horrible combo for a war...


Absolutely I mean its got nothing to do with the insurgents who still wish to prolong a fight for an aimless cause or terrorists from surrounding countrys who come in to kill civilians...

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El Gato
  Feb 1, 08, 18:22  #6

AvJoeUK wrote:
Absolutely I mean its got nothing to do with the insurgents who still wish to prolong a fight for an aimless cause or terrorists from surrounding countrys who come in to kill civilians...


Exactly. Bush should have had some kind of escape plan if the war wasn't over by year 2.


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z_darius
  Feb 1, 08, 22:01  #7

El Gato wrote:
It's actually really sad that a country like the US hasn't finished this war after the first year.

But they did. Didn't they? :))




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shopgirl
  Feb 1, 08, 22:15  #8

I think we need a new definition of how to know when a war has been won!
Maybe a punch list would be a good idea! :)


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Seanus
  Feb 3, 08, 19:10  #9

War is way too risky for obvious reasons. Pre-emptive strikes being right up there. Exaggeration of intentions too. We should take solace in the fact that the Cold War didn't see nukes being used. It was a tense stand-off


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plk123
  Feb 3, 08, 19:25  #10

AvJoeUK wrote:
Absolutely I mean its got nothing to do with the insurgents who still wish to prolong a fight for an aimless cause or terrorists from surrounding countrys who come in to kill civilians...

i think he mentioned lack of planning, didn't he? like this was not inevitable?

z_darius wrote:
But they did. Didn't they? :))

oh yes.. :D

shopgirl wrote:

I think we need a new definition of how to know when a war has been won!

see where m yquote above came from.. there lies your answers.


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Seanus
  Feb 9, 08, 19:39  #11

youtube.com/watch?v=iqoJHOSrjQo&feature=related, this is must viewing


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isthatu
  Feb 10, 08, 09:54  #12

Im just wondering when you all think war wasnt risky...........


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Seanus
  Feb 10, 08, 10:14  #13

Good answer isthatu


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z_darius
  Feb 10, 08, 10:19  #14

isthatu wrote:
Im just wondering when you all think war wasnt risky

When it was fought with someone else's armies.
Divide and rule!
;)


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hairball
  Feb 10, 08, 10:37  #15

z_darius wrote:


isthatu wrote:
Im just wondering when you all think war wasnt risky

When it was fought with someone else's armies.


For example Iran/Iraq?


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Seanus
  Feb 10, 08, 10:40  #16

The war of attrition. Thanks to America, Iraq emerged victorious. Sad to think that, only 3/4 years later, America declared war on Iraq. Talk about demoralising those countries.


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Patrycja19
  Feb 10, 08, 12:46  #17

El Gato wrote:
This leaves undeveloped countries like Iraq the only "safe" targets for war. Anybody agree?


no, it makes people look bad.. of course the weaker nations who think they are
big shots should keep their mouths shut and not say I have WMD and no one will
bother with them... its not like any of us are going to move and take over any of their
land.. as if.. ha.

Let me see, can I have the large brick ranch no windows.. fewer bugs and partial
mold growing.. kitchen has large woodburning stove and a exhaust fan ( hole in roof)
and we would also like the double lot for the kids swimming pool.. providing we can
remove most of the sand. is the area high dust? and does the public schools teach
our children to be respectable to other peoples property? or how to fly planes?

sorry Im bitter folks..


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isthatu
  Feb 10, 08, 14:47  #18

Patrycja19 wrote:
its not like any of us are going to move and take over any of their
land.. as if.. ha.

How much land do you think has already been taken over with mil' bases and civilian contractor compounds?
Patrycja19 wrote:
kitchen has large woodburning stove and a exhaust fan ( hole in roof)

caused by countries energy supplies ruined during allied airstrikes hence wood stove and hole in roof,need I explain what a USAF bomb will do to a mudbrick house?
Patrycja19 wrote:
sorry Im bitter folks..

You have no right to bitterness sat comfortably in the united states,the only people with a right to feel bitter are the countless thousands of civilians displaced,bereved or disfigured as a result of the USA trying its hand at vietnam ptII.


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Grzegorz_
  Feb 10, 08, 14:49  #19

Not too risky. Just bad for business.


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tornado2007
  Feb 10, 08, 15:26  #20

Grzegorz_ wrote:
Not too risky. Just bad for business.

totally agree with that one!!


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fluxor
  Feb 10, 08, 18:01  #21

The US has developed cancer in it's leadership. And that is what is destroying it.

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Patrycja19
Edited by: Patrycja19  Feb 11, 08, 00:08  #22

isthatu wrote:
You have no right to bitterness


yeah I do, and if you understood my post rather then twist it to your liking
then maybe we would get along, but no, Im bitter and I have a right to this
we all came to the us to be free. then some arseholes come to the US and start
war by killing well over 3000 innocent human beings just going to work that day!!
certain individuals keep saying what about the civilians? hmmm
well what about our civilians?? we wouldnt be there if they would have stayed
the he*L away...

I had a premonition dream.. and yes.. guess whos face was the devil in my
dream?? you got it.. it was saddam hussein whos insane..
guess what.. I woke up hysterical. because I seen people dying, with blood all over them under this large train station like place.. it didnt hit me till 2001 when all these
people died.. so yeah,, I have a right to be bitter when I witnessed death in my sleep
and it caused me to loose alot of sleep after that and affected me for a while..



my opinion stands, im bitter.. and until proven otherwise.. it will stay that way
we didnt choose that country to live in.. they did.. if you dont want to leave
no one can make you. when they do get to leave, someone steals a bunch
of planes and kills alot of people.. and they used our schools to learn how to fly..

People say we dont belong in Iraq, no not for the people sake, but for the terrorist
sake, yes, some of them came from Iraq.. and other muslim countries.. not just
afganistan..
im not going to get into another conversation about the war on terror..
theres another thread, that shows my feelings towards it.. dont like it,, then dont
read it..i never said I wasnt feeling bad for the civilians.. but they stay because why?

they choose too...


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isthatu
  Feb 11, 08, 11:36  #23

Patrycja19 wrote:
yeah I do, and if you understood my post rather then twist it to your liking

seems from reading your subsequent post I understood it just fine,and my point stands,you have no right to bitterness.
Patrycja19 wrote:
I had a premonition dream.. and yes.. guess whos face was the devil

OMG you had a bad dream so you are worse off than kids growing up in a war zone caused by your loony leaders...jeez,get some frikkin perspective and stop whinning.
Patrycja19 wrote:
my opinion stands, im bitter.. and until proven otherwise.. it will stay that way
we didnt choose that country to live in.. they did.. if you dont want to leave
no one can make you. when they do get to leave, someone steals a bunch
of planes and kills alot of people.. and they used our schools to learn how to fly..

sorry,but the ramblings of someone with ZERO understanding of the facts.ie IRAQIS DIDNT HIJACK PLANES!!!!SAUDI ARABIANS DID!!!!
Patrycja19 wrote:
bad for the civilians.. but they stay because why?

they choose too...

yes because its their fekin country that our troops have turned into a warzone!!! fekme,should you have to leave your country if things go wrong? Good god woman,if this is an example of US feelings on these the world is feked!


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Patrycja19
Edited by: Patrycja19  Feb 11, 08, 12:15  #24

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328832,00.html

isthatu wrote:
fekme,


ok,, heres something for you to read stupid... stop acting like you got your thumb
up your arse.. you think that no Iraq Al-queda is involved.. then you seriously
need to get your **** in one sock.. I do admit to my misguidence of media..

but for you to come along and tell me you know everything... well are you living in
iraq right now? do you see daily the **** these guys who dont want to be there
are going thru?? you just call the united states barbaric but its ok for these
terrorists to hide inside their own country amongst their own people and get them
killed, kill our people and above all use little boys,, young as 6 -7 years to start
learning how to carry a gun and attack.. and guess what!! they did this before
the united states ever landed on muslim soil!!!!

get your head on strait,, they came to our territory.. they killed alot of Americans..
who didnt deserve it .. so yeah, if we listen to you the world is feked.. because
its obviously apparent they want more from other countries and would do anything
to get it by force of Killing civilians.. they have bombed the UK< US < other countries

so let them come and kill. oh that makes perfect sense.. what a Idiot .. save the
Iraq people but oh, go and take my children and put bombs on them.. right..
fek you and the horse you rode in on.


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Patrycja19
Edited by: Patrycja19  Feb 11, 08, 23:28  #25

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/03/1968221.htm

heres some more reading..

doctor born in Iraq.. he was one of the few who was involved in the Glasgow
incident..

some more interesting facts about british muslims./recruitment.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article542420.ece


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isthatu
  Feb 12, 08, 13:36  #26

wow,she gives a link to foxnews and expects the world to take it seriously lmfao.
I dont need to counter,fox news omg....about as unbiased as joe goebells.
Im sorry,you just sound like a ranting nut job,stereo type inward looking "yank" without clue one as to what actually goes on in the rest of the world....are you guys not happy without boggey men to be scared of?


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Patrycja19
  Feb 12, 08, 19:53  #27

isthatu wrote:
and expects the world to take it seriously


nope.. I said my opinion.. you said yours.. good luck in life..

oh and sorry that the truth hurts .. least I had something to back me up
as to why Im bitter. I resent children being taught to hold guns.. do you?

if that makes me a nut job.. well then so be it.. crazy gal I am..

I resent a whole lot more. but our conversation is done..


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isthatu
  Feb 13, 08, 15:28  #28

Patrycja19 wrote:
least I had something to back me up

lol,foxnews...say no more..
Patrycja19 wrote:
I resent children being taught to hold guns..

well,shame your tax dollars have gone on US Advisor teams doing just this for decades now....google el salvador if you actualy give a dam about kids.


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Tran Anh
  Feb 15, 08, 10:09  #29

Przemas wrote:
God bless nuclear arsenal.

Or a hundred thousand suicide bombers!


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Dzhaklin
  Feb 18, 08, 18:53  #30

Is war risky or is the money and the resources a country can loose risky? I think war especially nuclear war is risky not just to developed countries but to the whole world.


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