Warning to British people visiting Poland!!

Please dont do that, its just not you :) I just thought you were just a tad out of order, he was being positive.....how's is going anyway mousey :)

A, everything is fine here. Maybe I'm just tired.

Sorry.

And sorry, darr.

But true...

That's Ok. we all have our own views and thoughts on this subject. Maybe I should have said Poland is a poorer country compared to some other countries :)

Thing is, the wages are low in comparison to other countries and this will take a while to catch up to the levels that we enjoy in the UK. It's a fact, there's no criticism intended.

Im defo going to stand on your tail now... ) be scared little doggie be very scared :))

Thanks to all of you Brits for your responses and of course Ranj, (you know this is a discussion forum and no offense is intended in my posts) can I firstly ask our overnight property guru who has only been to Sopot and the Blighty, mind you he knows everything about Poland, lol. He might just start with washing his mouth with a bucket of soapy water and learn to show respect for the Polish people.
I feel I am wasting my time in giving forum readers the good oil about the future of real estate in Poland, to me its like talking to a group of kindergarten children, I Would however ask people interested in the future of Poland to,

a) Read the History and struggles of the Polish people.
b) Speak to the average Polish person who lives in the city and country areas.
c) Read what the previous Pope wished for the Polish people.
d) Research into factors which effect real estate prices, it will come to no surprise to people who know these economic factors to appreciate that prices in polish real estate will never have a solid base when personal income is so low and secondly Poland is not a rich research country ie it has no oil, steel, or minerals, it will always be a relatively poor country which will not be able to support the old, sick, and unemployed, (like in the US/GB and Aus)
The Brits like to go to Poland for two reasons, Its very very cheap, and the Poles are nice and very non threatening.

Oh, but you must have forgotten about the beautiful Polish ladies of uncomparable beauty, which are sought after all over the world

Absolutely, there was no need for me to repeat what is obvious. (Polish men are pretty good too you know)

True, there are also Polish Sheepdogs - the Polski Owczarek Nizinny (PON) and Owczarek Podhalański which put Poland on the map. And of course, the Polish pope, who made other nations realize that there is such a country like Poland. Now everybody wants to go there, so Poland can make money out of tourism.
Nice to see you still around lef.

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No?
Many people from around here travel to Poland and they really like it there.

once a kunt always a kunt, eh lef?

make that two buckets of hot soapy water.

doesnt matter how many buckets you try to wash yourself in you will always be a silly australian kunt

very good idea ... especially those that wish to study in poland as you do get asked about polish history.



i have polish friends in varied areas of poland and get a different picture of each area, though people do have differing opinions



it would be stupid and naive if you didnt already do that and check out areas and have a knowledge of locality of say schools ... shops ... transport .. before purchasing or renting out a place in Poland



It is not the reason i go to Poland ... i go for the beauty of the landscape .. the history and to chill with friends ....

also i thought a pole was something you stick in the ground and attach things to ... i prefer to use the term Polish people rather than the term pole to refer to someone from Poland!

If so then why are you being offensive in the first few lines of this message.
i.e.
See you enusure you elicit offensive replies. So would be nice if you did just treat this as a discussion forum. You post a quote of something I wrote on a previous occasion so at this point I want to make it quite clear that I do not agree with the above offensive remarks you have just posted.

Now, I'll respond to the other things you have posted.

these are important thats why when you speak to poles and other westerners you will relaise there is a difference
... the values, morals and ethics

Then please do not bother any more on my account. Do you realise you are being offensive by calling people 'kindergarten children'. As if we cannot think clearly for ourselves. We can and if you wish discuss issues with us then please post in a more respectful manner.
Otherwise no one is going to bother debating issues with you.

Now the points you have raised.



I have and all my family have been deeply affected by this in the past. Please don't assume we only get this information from history books.



Have you ? When did you last speak to someone in this manner ? Would be interesting to know ?



Can you be more specific please ? More background information on what you mean would be helpful to try to see what point it is you are trying to get across to us ?



Incomes will rise in Poland, it's only a matter of time now it is part of the EU. I can't follow your line of thought regarding the economic factors to be considered. Not quite sure what the point is there. Poland is growing rapidly. Foreign investment and confidence in the country is at an all time high. Property prices will be dictated by the laws of supply and demand. As Poland prospers, wages will rise and higher standards of living will follow. I consider that to be a good thing for a country, that for too long was not allowed to grow under the Communist regime :(



I disagree. Look at Switzerland. Anyway, Polish people collectively have the greatest resource in the World. Themselves. They are strong, hard working and friendly and that will ensure they have a thriving tourist market, have massive foreign investment,including new industries etc etc and they are highly skilled, educated and intelligent. A great workforce !!

As a matter of interest the UK struggles to look after it's sick and elderly even at this present time. The grass is always greener :) and the Polish people are more family orientated and value looking after their own old relatives. Something very much to be admired :)



That's your view. Not a researched fact !!

Sometimes one can have stereotyped views or memories long held which do not always relate to the changes that have happened in some parts of the world over the last couple of decades. It's usually one held by older people who have nostalgic views of how things were or should be. It doesn't really relate to the views of the people who are living in those countries in this day and age.

It would be good to discuss the isssues through more thoroughly but you need to post some information with you views then we can look at the facts and form our own views. Otherwise, though I am interested in hearing anybodys views, I may not agree with them always and if your posts are meant to persuade us in any area we need supporting information so that we can mull it over in our own mind and make our own views on the subject at hand.

Sometimes? More like "most of the time"! :)
People don't like to change things....not even their mind! :(

True :)) But I'm kind and extremely tired today so am mellow with it....... <smile>

I like to give others the benefit of the doubt. Always........:)

.......anyway nice to see you Sg :)

When I go on holiday I am usually ashamed of being British due to the way we behave. I was in Krakow the other week and prior to this was dissapointed to hear that the city was being spoilt by British twats.

Whilst I saw quite a few stag do's in and around the square, they were all well behaved (although I didn't go to any clubs). I think the regular police patrols helped .

Seem to have it under control.

Are my eyes deceiving me!!!! a Brit saying that :o



hhhmm i'm sure there were a few spanish, italian, german etc etc Twats there too :)



You see not every Brit is a thug, just another stereotype

Not that I could see!

"British are just bad news when it comes to drinking alcohol" <-- I think this is an accurate statement, especially with football! (and I am British).

Unfortunately, well behaved British people abroad seem to fall into the minority. :(

True ^^ When I was there in a nice resturant a group on a stag do at the table behind us were typical, I can say It made me embarrissed for my country.

or it could just be that they dont get noticed...

i think your a little confused there, badly behaved British people abroad seem to fall into the minority that spoil it for the rest of the British holiday makers.

please don't think it is a majority because its not

it is not the majority of british abroad that are causing trouble

it is the well behaved, civil majority go unnoticed and an ignorant few are causing trouble.

i should like to point out that the poles themselves have people like this as it is. ive been in warsaw now two weeks and i assure you there are an EQUAL proportion (also ukrainans too ive noticed)

and in Wroclaw, plenty of local troublemakers and rather no british on the times of my visits.
So this topic should rather read, Warning to people in general - don't be p1ssheads.

Yeah just look at all those well behaved Polish football fans, they sit quietly don't think about causing a riot and getting their team thrown out of the UEFA cup do they???

this backs daffy's point, the incident i am referring too is just a tiny minority of Polish football fans who rioted at one football match. Although i'm sure the Majority of Polish fans are peacful and just want to see a good game of football.

Its the same with the British and drinking, there are some who drink and cause trouble (Minority) and there are the rest (Majority) who just like to have a drink enjoy the beach and have fun :)