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Harry
  Nov 29, 07, 11:18  #31

^ That would be a powerful argument if the paper was a monthly magazine. Unfortunately it is actually a weekly newspaper. I know that this is a small point but it is one which has somewhat of an effect on your otherwise accurate calculations.

A subscription in Poland costs 345zl per year. There are 52 weeks in a year. That makes a cost per issue of 6.63zl including postage.

Who would want to spend 6.63zl a week on the Voice is an entirely different matter. I'd happily spend that much every week to avoid reading the Voice....

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z_darius
  Nov 29, 07, 12:04  #32

Quoting: Harry
That would be a powerful argument if the paper was a monthly magazine. Unfortunately it is actually a weekly newspaper. I know that this is a small point but it is one which has somewhat of an effect on your otherwise accurate calculations.

Indeed, it does.

Let's revise:

Circulation (yearly) of 10500 at an average price of $106 is still a handsome $1,113,000 if all of them are sold to subscribers (I imagine the stand price is higher)

The same circulation, if entirely in zl) at 295zl is $1,264,285 (at the rate of $1=zl2.45)

To make sure the stats are not too optimistic let's use some margin of error and use a safe cooling down factor. What the heck, why cut a whopping 40% of that estimate to see what kind of income they can count on:

if sold in zloty: $667,800
if sold in dollars $758,571
(avg. of $713,185.5)

And all that in Poland where average sallary is what? $14K a year?
I'd say the magazine can easily sustain itself in Poland with this kind of budget. And I'm not even including the advertising revenues.

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ela_lawyer
  Nov 29, 07, 13:56  #33

Quoting: Harry
The article you quote from was written by Danusha V. Goska. The same Danusha V. Goska who wrote of the men who during the 1992 Los Angeles riots attacked Reginald Denny and fractured his skull in 91 places "their action was a protest against white supremacy." Nice to see you quoting such an intellectual giant. Surely you can find something better on jewwatch.com or whatever cesspit you usually dwell in.

While you are quick to point out who is and is not a Jew, you seem rather confused as to whether the Warsaw Voice is anti-Polish or anti-Catholic. Which is it?


Danusha V. Goska, PhD, seems to more of an intellectual giant than you'll ever be in your lifetime. She is an "experienced teacher, an award winning writer, and a published scholar". Her accomplishments and credentials are on the net. Please perform a seach on Google. What exactly are your credenitals, please tell us here at the forum? Do you seriously consider the State University of New York, a highly regarded institution, to be a "cesspit"? Sorry, the other site you mentioned is not frequented by myself. Perhaps, that is the sort of website you often patronize since you are so familiar with it.

Is it not allowed to point out who certain individuals are? In October, 2000, Ms. Pamela Kruger of "Fastcompany.com" did an in depth story entitled "The Best Way to Keep the Devil at the Door Is to Be Rich", about Helena Luczywo and Wanda Rapaczynski, founders of Gazeta Wyborcza, Agora SA (Link: fastcompany.com/magazine/40/wf_agora.html). Ms. Kruger went into depth on how GW was formed, who started it, and who the founders were, in detail. Here is one quote of many from the article:

"To understand Agora's thirst for independence, you first need to appreciate the personal stories of both Luczywo and Rapaczynski. Like most Poles, their personal histories are wrapped up in Poland's traumatic political history. Luczywo's parents, both Jews, fled during World War II to what was then the Soviet Union, escaping the fate of roughly 3 million Polish Jews who were murdered in Nazi death camps. While in the Soviet Union, the Luczywos became friends with Rapaczynski's parents (her father was a Polish Jew; her mother was a Polish Catholic). Michnik, who was also Jewish and who was an outspoken student activist, was arrested several times during that period and spent some time in prison.)"

So, now tell me, if Ms. Pamela Kruger can do an article and point out is who is Jewish, why can't others do it? Also, is Ms. Kruger confused as to the definition of is a Polish Jew or Polish Catholic? I think not. The definition is clear cut.

Poles, the majority being Roman Catholic, are of various faiths in this country. There are Poles of the Roman Catholic faith, Eastern Orthodox Catholic faith, Muslim faith, Protestant faith, Lutheran faith, Jewish faith, and many others. A "Polish Catholic" is simply a Pole of the Catholic faith. A "Polish Jew" is simply a Pole of the Jewish faith. So, where is the problem of understanding you are having? I used the precise terminology as Ms. Pamela Kruger used in her article written 7 years ago. She explicity described Wanda Rapaczynski's parents as "Polish Jew" and "Polish Catholic". Still confused? I suggest you read some good literature on the subject. That might clear up your mind a bit. By the way, you should stay away from such facist websites as you had mentioned.

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Crow
  Dec 1, 07, 05:00  #34

Quoting: ela_lawyer
A "Polish Jew" is simply a Pole of the Jewish faith.

wait.

You mean one can be of Polish ethnicity and of Jewish faith (well, it isn`t impossible)? By anology that would mean that Judaism spered among Poles (not only among them, BDW). If so, i have a question... Who has more tolerance on traditional Slavic spirituality, Chatolicism or Judaism? I think (judging by my expiriance with Christianity (Orthodox version) that Chatolic Church still must have more tolerance for Slavic pre-Christian traditions then Judaism. Am i right? After all, take just Irish expiriance. We all heard for St. Patrick.

What is Polish expiriance with Chatolic approach and tolerance of pre-Christian Slavic spiritual traditions- i would ask?

and, just to add, there are some schoolars who suggests that ancient Slavs even influenced creation of Christianity- which is considered to be close with Slavic old faith, especialy human (tolerance) aspect of Christianity.

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ela_lawyer
  Dec 1, 07, 13:57  #35

Quoting: Crow
You mean one can be of Polish ethnicity and of Jewish faith (well, it isn`t impossible)?


Of course. Just ask Adam Michnik, Editor-in-chief of Gazeta Wyborcza. He openly describes himself as a Pole of Jewish origins.

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Harry
  Dec 3, 07, 13:22  #36

Quoting: ela_lawyer
He openly describes himself as a Pole of Jewish origins.


He openly calls himself a Jew? Well off to the camps with him then!

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