We welcome Polish people to Britain!

sshhhhhhhh! I'm here incognito Are you Mr B?

If anyone reading this thinks I am too harsh on Manser they should go to polandpoland.com and read what he has written there. All 10 or so pages of it.

What gets me is that he asks for advice, is given it (time and time again), people sympathise (time and time again) and then he has the b***** audacity to call us idiots. Does he actually know what went on in these camps? Perhaps if his grandparents were in one of these he would be more careful in what he says.

merry Xmas!

That's nice. I'm living near B'ham more than 2 years now and believe you me I haven't met anybody with that attitude..

can be

I actually felt bad myself.

no, I don't think you are being too harsh, but manser seems to display the same behaviour as I have for some while.

let's just say I think he might be in more pain than you would think, more pain than he wants to tell anyone. maybe he wants sympathy without having to tell the entire truth as it could be very embarrassing, or painful. maybe manser is feeling totally alone and maybe he has too many troubles.

let's just say I think manser is an okay fellow, but he needs people to talk to and some time to open up completely.

just like me. and manser, I know I'm probably not right about everything, so don't go there. but believe me, stop what you're doing, talk to someone who does understand the meaning of the word trouble.

because I think you are a sensitive fellow, otherwise you wouldn't go on about it so I think you will regret hurting someone when the truth comes out? anyway, whatever you do, face your demons. fight them or accept them, that's your own choice. just don't do what I did.

thank you for your time. just consider, don't have to defend yourself.

and also, I have a somewhat silly question for you aniah, but do you have a twin sister by any chance? just wondering if you're someone I've known, because it could be we've met before.

but nevermind if you aren't.

No offense to you, but Bullsh*t

I can understand if you're talking smack about women because you were "hurt"but to slag off a whole country for it? Come on eff that. He's an inconsiderate sob.

oh really? well, that's your judgement.

I have a reason for saying this. maybe you should really come and live where I live for a while. you'll get yourself stabbed in no time if you trust everyone around you. friendly polish? yeah sure they're like you and me all the same.. but in the not so fortunate neighbourhoods you'll find yourself the little less friendly polish.

and if these are the guys who also take the jobs you happen to need desperately, your judgement of a nation might get clouded by frustrations. and don't get me wrong, I don't think this is right and I disagree with the things he is saying, but you should ask yourself if the guy really means it.

so no offense to you, but some people do live in a different world and do get a load of crap on them, which sometimes can be a little too much. and I happen to think he lives downtown too, if you understand what I mean.

but like I said, I could be wrong about a few things. I'm not a shrink.

anyway, don't go there. I would like to hear it from him in person before we start all types of arguments again.

Arien - you are typical brit, just stupid.

Ola...you've not elevated our friend from Holland to being a Britisher?....lol

I've always thought the word "stupid" is assiciated with a Polish person.. lol

I always thought that ppl with nicks like "rambo" are pathetic and ugly.

OH come ooooon. Will you create excuse for me to post such a **** like you created for manser? Im waiting. Dont be so biased toward brits. At least I didnt post that all brits should go to death camps.

forget it god. anyway dont spend boxing day on the net, cya later.

and of course not i dont mean anything I said. Im beyond pissed off right now.

Dont worry me too, saying that brits are stuipid or that they are traitors and should sink with their island, I didnt mean that too. But if you dont stop yourself from posting **** why should I?

im not going to anymore ok.

i dont know you guys so come on, i dont have anything against you lot obviously.

forget what I said about camps or what ever, you say anything when your raged.

just listen to Arien he/she is bang on correct.

I'm not a brit. and thanks, compared to what most girls call me, that would be a compliment.

I have no idea why you feel the need to call me stupid though, I'm just guessing there, not saying I knew for certain. and I'm not banging on the polish in general, but it seems you can't take any form of criticism or realism when it comes to subjects like criminality.

which is weak. because when some polish people talk like ''in almost every bar they sell drugs'' or ''all dutch are arrogant'' or ''unpleasant'' when they talked about ME and MY country..

did you see me get all offended? the answer is: no. because I do have an open mind and I do understand some bitterness. and unlike you, I know people have reasons and feelings and say things they don't really mean.



I'm a he by the way. just guessing mate, let's say a lot of things you've mentioned sounded awfully familiar. hope you chill out some.. things'll work out for you, sometimes
it just takes time and effort, and a lot of patience.

anyway, that's what I mean ola, you can't always tell what reasons, - right or wrong - someone might have for being a little ''excited''. we all have strong emotions sometimes. now if you'll accept manser's excuse, we might get along and even help eachother out and who knows we could even act friendly every now and then.

sweet dreams ola, I think you've got some fire. you're adorable.

Oh Mincer, I vould love to bitten zyour end... and zstuff it zup your zass.

OK, Zgubiony so you are not Mr B. Are you Marek?

I think Arien has a point, Manser is hurt, we know he is hurt, how could we not know?He has written enough on the subject, and I do still remember what it feels like to be hurt in love, I am not that old The point is you do not say deeply deeply DEEPLY offensive things just because you are dissapointed in one person.

It's a good job, Aldona is a slow duck like you say and her English is poor, Manser, because if she came on here and read what you have written about her, her friends, her fellow countrymen and Poland in general I don't think her or her family would give you the time of day again. As it is you can live in hope.

Actually, I think you probably are an OK kinda guy, just immature like I said,but then you are only 20 so it kinda goes with the territory. It's just that when people read this kind of think they forget the person who wrote it is only 20 and they take it literally.

Don't forget we can all edit what we have written - don't be afraid to use that edit button now and again

Well, Xmas is over, so Happy New Year! Doseigo Nowego Roku!

PS. Arien, in answer to your question, yes I do have a twin, have you heard of Doda?



Just kidding.

Very diplomatically said Arien , but manser isn't slaging off Polish people because he lives in a less fortunate area, but rather because he was dumped by a polish girl named Aldona. Instead of taking this rejection like a man he pity’s himself. The reason why he says all those nasty things about Poles and Poland is because, just like rafik wrote somewhere on this forum, he’s an attention seeker. He looks for sympathy, and after he gets it he says that he was wrong, but when people stop paying attention to him he starts the slaging all over again. Just like a little baby, that shouts in order to be noticed by his mother.He said many times that Aldona was very immature, but how else would you describe his behavior. I think I know what attracted these two to each other in the first place. Pathetic.

Manser, are you happen to be, by any chance, an only child? Just being curious.

I am aka FISZ. Marek, I'm not


And I always thought rambo is stupid, what's your point?


They do say you should never type when you're angry. You may say some regrettable things.

I suppose I'll wait for the next aniah to come along then. or a magdalena. they must be out there somewhere and I never had a chance to say goodbye.

and I've never been a star in leaving without words, so maybe it's immature or silly, but unfinished bussiness really eats me. it's been almost two years ago now, I believe they're both 21 now. don't worry, she didn't break my heart.

yeah, some polish ladies actually do have class. and these two, well, if you ever come across them..

take a deep bow, trust me. they're angels.



so you say. I noticed a few slang words and a way of talking you'll only find in certain areas. and like I said, I don't know the whole story, but do know people might have more reasons than meets the eye sometimes.

let's just say I'm no fan of not caring, you can seem the biggest prick in the world at first glance, but sometimes it doesn't have to be that way.



which everyone ofcourse, does sometimes? *cough* some more often than others. doesn't mean they stay that way.

some people might have more difficulties dealing with things than you have, no shame in that if you try to make up for it. it would be a shame if you never learn from it though.

am I boring you? oh my, look at the time..

If he really had some problems with nasty Poles before, I presume, after reading his posts, that he would have mentioned it abut zillion times already.



It's nice to care, but when somebody is playing the "look at me, I'm so miserable, please comfort me and give me a big hug mommy" card it really gets on my nerves. Especially if the person talks crap about other people in order to get this attention.



Thank you, I do try my best.

Im not convinced that you are Polish you do irony and sarcasm in a perfect English manner

oh man, why do I have to get in trouble for trying to help? you can tell me it's silly, okay, fine..

really, no need to flip over it.

Irony and sarcasm is also present in polish humor. Probably that's why I liked English humor from the very first moment I run into it. It's brilliant.



I wasn't trying to attack you Arien. It’s very noble of you that you want to help. I just don't like the manser guy.

doh. I know. you're just flattering yourself now. lol

I agree to a point, and you know, there is alot of people out there who have
alot of anger, depression. were in a forum, so we cant take a look into his
eyes and say , yeah, this guy is really hurtin. were judging by his typing.

yes he said some mean stuff, but he is still growing, 20 years old , he hasnt
had to many relationships to learn that Hurt goes along with them.

especially if this was his first true love. you can like many, but there is only one!

anyway, I probably make no sense.

Manser, just try to come out of that " I hate" mode, because it will eat you up!

you'll end up hurting someone you should really give a chance to, and that starts
a whole viscious process. Like I said, its better to say I have loved then to never
loved at all.

Someone nice will come along and you will find your heart again.

and yes People. at times I am to soft hearted, but its Christmas and I dont
feel like being mean or stubborn! lol

Come ON Group HUG!!!! (((((((((((((((((( EVERYONE)))))))))))))))))))))))))!!

Mrs P you can be too nice at times, for me he was an attention seeking little pr*ck who thinks that because his x treated him badly, all Polish are the same and this is just simply not true, you know my feelings on people airing their dirty washing in public....its just simply not cricket! - english expression - meaning - its just not the done thing.....somethings should be kept between you and the other person...and not plastered all over the web...there are however two sides, she's probably just got on with things...

I am a Scot and I know many of my own people who are total scumbags! I also know English, Europeans, and Asians in a similar category. Thank God, though, that there are many, many good folk among these people. There's good and bad among all people, and I am pretty sure the good ones are a huge majority.