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szkotja2007
Edited by: szkotja2007  Dec 12, 07, 17:16  #151

I had a mate who was complaining about this, he had been on the dole for 6 months and hadn't seen any jobs he wanted.
Two days later a Polish friend returned to Scotland. They arrived in the morning and by the afternoon they had a full time job in Tescos and a part time one in B&Q at the weekend.





Edit - the quote didnt look right!

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The Codfather
  Dec 12, 07, 17:23  #152

Quoting: PolskaDoll
there are some positions some Brits seem to see as "below" themselves


Absoloutly right.My business involves fish,obviously.Yet when I used to advertise,or tell people ( Brits) what the job involved,packing,icing,freezing etc......the common reaction I got was "Yuk! Im not touching fish".Then they used to go away and get a job earning less than what I was paying.
When some of these people are still doing the same dreary job in ten years time,..............I WILL be laid on the sand outside my beach house in Mexico,with my Polish wife,hopefully :))

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lennyd [Guest]
  Dec 12, 07, 17:37  #153

Quoting: The Codfather
sometimes we would do a 18 hour day

just proves this person wants to exploit no one works 18 hours a day , we fought for better rights now poles have destroyed our workforce , shows what a piece of scum this man is working 18 hours with pollocks , even the primeminister has said british jobs for british workers and british should have a living wage , this mass immigration has done nothing to help the working man , just complete madness if he loves poles so much he should go to poland and take them with him we've built up this country through our forefathers to give better rights to our own people there are more brits on benefits now than ever before because of people being denied proper rights and yes we should have unions , that's what unions fought for so unscruplious little men couldn't exploit like you

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lennyd [Guest]
  Dec 12, 07, 17:47  #154

Quoting: The Codfather
in Mexico

yeah mexico they will work 24 hours a day for 50 pescos , yeah his attitude stinks more than his fish , i'm ashamed to be british with people like him at least i know i'm what the majority are thinking one less unscruplious employer and one less pole here if he goes to exploit mexicans

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Puzzler
  Dec 12, 07, 17:48  #155

Quoting: lennyd
pollocks


- What a racist scum you are. Why don't you die, scum?

Why the hell are you ranting on a Polish forum? Get the hell out to your BNP-Daily-Mail forum.

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wildrover
  Dec 12, 07, 17:59  #156

Quoting: lennyd

Quoting: lennyd
wants to exploit


Where is the exploitation..???? .he wants workers...the workers want a job...sounds like a reasonable arrangement to me.....
Quoting: lennyd
what unions fought for

Seems to me Unions fought for the downfall of the country...We would still have a car industry , and a coal industry if not for the unions.....

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Foreigner4
  Dec 12, 07, 18:07  #157

Quoting: Puzzler
What a racist scum you are. Why don't you die, scum


no, he is upset at the situation, and thinks it should be better than what it is.

Look, you played the punk on that rebuttle and you owe yourself better.
Quoting: lennyd
this mass immigration has done nothing to help the working man , just complete madness if he loves poles so much he should go to poland and take them with him we've built up this country through our forefathers to give better rights to our own people there are more brits on benefits now than ever before because of people being denied proper rights and yes we should have unions , that's what unions fought for so unscruplious little men couldn't exploit like you



^that is a very legitimate point^ If you're going to go on the offensive then attack the point, not the person.

You only proved that you're quick to lose your temper should anyone speak (or write) about Poles in a way you don't approve of. If you really cared so much about poles being done wrong then i gather you'd be fighting for fair wages for poles here in poland.

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Puzzler
  Dec 12, 07, 18:28  #158

Quoting: Foreigner4
no, he is upset at the situation, and thinks it should be better than what it is.


- He calls us racist names; he is therefore racist scum. He is racist scum also because he attacks only Poles, but doesn't attack other foreigners, particularly those from the Third World, working in UK - and there are more of them there than Poles. Racist scum, I say.

Quoting: Foreigner4
You only proved that you're quick to lose your temper should anyone speak (or write) about Poles in a way you don't approve of


- Hm, answering in kind to a crap insulting me you call 'losing my temper'? You actually mean losing my temper without any reason?

You're defending him out of nationalistic solidarity, right? :)

Quoting: Foreigner4
If you really cared so much about poles being done wrong then i gather you'd be fighting for fair wages for poles here in poland.


- I actually want all of my people out of Britain. I hate the fact they are there - often ripped off and insulted by scum like this one here. I am persuading them to go back and leave it all to the Third World.

As for fighting for better wages in Poland, who should I fight with? There's no money in Poland for wage increase. Can you understand that?

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Foreigner4
Edited by: Foreigner4  Dec 12, 07, 18:38  #159

if calling a spade a spade is insulting, then i am very prone to insults. And you still seem to be losing your temper, cool it, it's not condusive to anything constructive. anyhow you've missed your mark for a second time-no i've no national identity in common with him. there's no reason to keep calling the guy "scum," you can't know all that much about him, but you do know that you both have something in common (you would both like to see poles return to poland and you both have a distaste for worker exploitation).
Quoting: Puzzler
There's no money in Poland for wage increase. Can you understand that?

No i can't understand that, i can't understand how multinational companies and larger national companies can report growing profits but salaries and wages don't keep pace with either profit or inflation. I can't understand how, at a time that should be brimming with improvements thanks to e.u. grants, there is mass emigration.

I don't get it, explain it to me. I'm not terribly talented at this so i won't mind if you use only basic terms and info to start with.

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Polanglik
  Dec 12, 07, 19:07  #160

Quoting: lennyd
now poles have destroyed our workforce


a bit of an exaggeration don't you think ?

like some posters have already said .... Poles are prepared to do certain jobs that Brits would not ...

Quoting: lennyd
even the primeminister has said british jobs for british workers and british should have a living wage


..... and you actually believed him ....:o))

Quoting: lennyd
there are more brits on benefits now than ever before


...and you blame the Poles for this ?

Quoting: lennyd
at least i know i'm what the majority are thinking


i don't believe the majority of Brits have your views ..... the average Brit has a bit more intelligence than that .... I hope :o)

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lennyd [Guest]
  Dec 12, 07, 19:35  #161

i just want better rights and wages for my own people , we can't send zloty home to buy things an annual report says mass migration depresses wages and takes local jobs from local people , there are thousands of incidents where polish have taken british jobs and put brits out of work which in my view is completely unacceptable so many people are talking about this the guests are taking over the house , the bnp is the fastest growing party in britain becaise indigenous people aren't getting a fair crack these days , and racist what are you on about many people refer to poles as pollocks like british get brits i never made this up it is not racist we are the same race as polish WHITE CAUCASIAN , it might be nationalistic which is right i do believe in putting our own people first just like i believe many poles do , racist i'm telling you polish are the most racist people in europe they come here and wouldn't work for blacks or rent from asians , anyone remember the euro 2004 qualifier in poland where the heroic england team played ? wright_philips and emile heskey claimed every time they got the ball there was racist chants from very large numbers of the polish crowd making monkey noises even so loud the england team wanted an investigation into the game ,it made news and lots of people were talking about it , it doesn't happen here so i think poles are extremely racist towards non whites , most of them hate the british yet have the cheek to come here

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szkotja2007
  Dec 12, 07, 19:40  #162

The BNP are fascists.

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lennyd [Guest]
  Dec 12, 07, 19:40  #163

Quoting: Polanglik
Poles are prepared to do certain jobs that Brits would not .

and who done these jobs before they invited themselves to come here ? yes us british only we expected a fairer pay scale we can't live 8 in a house and send cash home i'm afraid , every day i hear people talking about this crazy madness were in with eu immigrants everywhere u go people aren't happy with it

Quoting: szkotja2007
The BNP are fascists.

well 85% of people interviewed at random agreed with 5 key issues , out of 2000 people i have to say anything is better than this so called labour government who sold it's own people off to eastern europe , the bnp seem to be like the old style labour party from decades ago supporting the working man , i'm not facist or bnp but i have to say what they say seems to make sense , better working rights for their own people you can't argue with that , the polish would moan if they had over a million swamping in exploiting their economy

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Puzzler
Edited by: Puzzler  Dec 12, 07, 20:06  #164

Quoting: Foreigner4
if calling a spade a spade is insulting, then i am very prone to insults


- What do you mean by that? You mean that calling us 'pollocks' is like calling a spade a spade?

Quoting: Foreigner4
you both have something in common


- Not really. I am intelligent; he has no brains. - He blames the Poles for all the real and imagined ills in UK; since fuking psychos from the Daily Mail do it, he has the boldness to do it too. And even though he may see crowds of folks from Asia and Africa around him, each of whom has a job or collects the dole in Britain, he still believes it's the Poles who 'destroy the British workforce.' He found convenient - because powerless - scapegoats in us. Scum, I say.

He rants about 'thinking the unthinkable,' but it never occurs to him to ask why all this Third World is sitting in UK? He doesn't understand the game of the forces behind the media Polonophobia, which want to kick the Poles out of UK and dump into UK even more Third World crowds. If he had the brains and guts he should demand stopping immigraton from the Third World and kicking out Third World from the UK.

That's UK, member of the EU for you, where Third World alien has more respect and rights than a Pole.

Fuk such EU.

Quoting: Foreigner4
No i can't understand that, i can't understand how multinational companies and larger national companies can report growing profits but salaries and wages don't keep pace with either profit or inflation. I can't understand how, at a time that should be brimming with improvements thanks to e.u. grants, there is mass emigration.


- Do you mean that the EU grants for Poland should be used for wage increase for Polish workers? Oh man, you're really, ahem, naive. :)

PS. And now I can see the racist creep is trying to turn the tables and calls us racists, and pretends that he used the term 'pollocks' as a nickname such as 'Brits.' And he pretends to defend all those poor 'Blacks' we allegedly won't work for and 'Asians' we wouldn't rent from.... What a self-destructive stupid creep. Yes, UK is collapsing - thanks to such idiots as 'lennyd.'

And we Poles must - really must - get the hell out of there. Better to starve than put up with crap like that.

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lennyd [Guest]
  Dec 12, 07, 21:15  #165

well this is a fact that our ENGLISH players were racially abused in poland , anyway i thought poland was a third world mess it ain't much better than china what is so good about poland , oh pshyco's because they say that britain is getting overcrowded with EU immigrants so what should we say nothing ? just sit back watching the country go to the dogs scared to say something because if we comment on anything were somehow racists and polonophobic i'd love to know where this has sprung from POLONOPHOBIC it must be the stupid politically correct little in thing , i have nothing against polish people for being polish , but we need to look after our own first just like puzzler would like with polish citizens anyway pollocks is a term that came from the united states which is becoming very popular in britain obviously due to the large numbers , yeah as the asylum seekers or economic migrants which they are same as pollocks i am not happy with the massive numbers of people coming from other places such as india china and phillippines etc i'm not saying no immigration whatsoever but you don't open your borders up that's just insane , points systems visas and our own native citizens should be given priority over employment rights just like so many other countries

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Ebi [Guest]
  Dec 12, 07, 21:27  #166

Lenny, you a racist creep, the slime of the earth, a creature who has no knowledge whatsoever of his own countries foreign and immigration policies, yet feels he should contribute to the conversation with full fledged racial attacks, and sidewing antagonism with the term pollacks. Good grief man, you're country is getting overrun by Arabs, and blacks, yet you feel like you should blame it all on Poles? Who's fault is it anyway? Your own countries ya polophobe!

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lennyd [Guest]
  Dec 12, 07, 22:18  #167

Quoting: Ebi
foreign and immigration policies

i have total knowledge of them it's called the madness of the EU which no one voted for and no one asked for it's just been forced upon us like pollock workers infesting our once decent country

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Ebi [Guest]
  Dec 12, 07, 22:25  #168

lol, let it be so friend. they are "infesting" your country quite well to my knowledge. have fun over there ya cranky ol' tart!

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z_darius
  Dec 12, 07, 22:34  #169

Quoting: lennyd
i have total knowledge of them

No, you don't.
The truth is worse than you think.
Poles decided that the only way to feel safer from the Russians will be oto relocate Poland to the British Isles. The English can still rule the waves though ;)

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The Codfather
  Dec 13, 07, 00:35  #170

Lennyd. You accuse me of exploitation.Do you even know what the word means??

Exploit....to use for gain.You say nobody works an 18 hour day.YES they do!!.I have never ever had a job where I worked less than 12 hours a day.Whether it be at sea fishing or in the Merchant Navy,a 12 hour day is standard.

I would put a bet on that you are not employed.What is your exscuse for not working? Oh yeah,the "Pollacks" ( Sorry everyone,no offense intended.Im just quoting this idiot),have stolen all the jobs.There is no excuse for anybody not working these days.The work is there for all,you just need to get off your brain and go find it.

Do you enjoy Chinese and Indian food??.Are you not exploiting that resourse everytime you have a takeaway?.And then........just to prove you are a racist thug....you bring football into the equation.You moron!.

My factory was full of hardworking,honest,reliable Polish workers because the locals DONT WANT to work.I didnt advertise for Polish ONLY,I would employ anyone who wanted to work.

If by exploitation you mean........did I pay above average wages,yes.Guilty.
Did I provide health and dental expenses,yes.Guilty
Did I provide extra financial aid if needed,yes.Guilty.

I had atleast 7 workers who were with me for 3 years or more.Does it really sound to you that I was exploiting them?.When I sold the company they all got a large financial pay off ( something that I wasnt obliged to do),and I made sure they all had other jobs to go to.Exploitation? LOOK IN THE DICTIONARY.

If all the Polish and other immigrant workers left England tomorrow,this country would grind to a halt,fact!!

So,as per the title of this post..." I WELCOME ALL YOU POLISH PEOPLE TO BRITAIN".Dont be put off by narrow minded views of brainless,lazy thugs like this idiot Lennyd!.

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Foreigner4
  Dec 13, 07, 03:14  #171

Quoting: Puzzler
Do you mean that the EU grants for Poland should be used for wage increase for Polish workers?

not like you stated it, but the fact remains that the pay people are expected to work for in poland isn't enough. If it were then this mass emigration wouldn't be underway.

Anyhow i suppose this isn't the thread for it (or maybe it is) but i still feel that there is enough money in poland for better wages, it's just hiding in big pockets.

Overall you have definitely given me some food for thought. I can only (mostly) nod my head in agreement with your last post. cheers.

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lennyd [Guest]
  Dec 19, 07, 05:32  #172

polish actually take jobs from disabled people and those on low wages the most vulnerable members of our society

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southern
  Dec 19, 07, 05:49  #173

Quoting: lennyd
polish actually take jobs from disabled people


You mean that polish performance in work resembles this of disabled people?

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Daisy
  Dec 19, 07, 05:56  #174

Quoting: lennyd
polish actually take jobs from disabled people

evidence please!

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southern
  Dec 19, 07, 06:01  #175

I would think that part of money for disabled people come straight from taxes paid by polish workers.

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ShelleyS
  Dec 19, 07, 06:15  #176

Quoting: wildrover
Seems to me Unions fought for the downfall of the country...We would still have a car industry , and a coal industry if not for the unions.....


Hmmm, not quite true and many an English man would disagree with you too.

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Curtis
  Dec 19, 07, 06:17  #177

People in britian can moan about polish robbing jobs, but at the end of the day, they're most likely the people that want to be rich from sitting on their ass's.

The most qualified, harder working people that work for the least are always going to get the job from an employer, no matter what country your in.

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southern
Edited by: southern  Dec 19, 07, 06:18  #178

Quoting: Curtis
The most qualified, harder working people that work for the least are always going to get the job from an employer, no matter what country your in.


Are not the Anglosaxons the ones who support the freedom in trade and labor?

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Kilkline
  Dec 19, 07, 06:21  #179

Quoting: ShelleyS
Quoting: wildrover
Seems to me Unions fought for the downfall of the country...We would still have a car industry , and a coal industry if not for the unions.....


Hmmm, not quite true and many an English man would disagree with you too.



The unions existed pre-1974. Saying that all the unions have ever done is destroy the car industry is like saying the all feminism has ever done is produce the Spice Girls.
The working conditions and benefits that each and everyone of us enjoy in our work were not given by employers willingly but had to be fought, and often died for.

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wildrover
  Dec 19, 07, 07:07  #180

Sorry , but i am just anti trade union , i agree that in the old days they were needed to stop greedy bosses exploiting the workers , but they grew into a monster that would not let a boss make any decision uless it involved the workers doing less work for more money....The only union i have any respect for is a certain one in Poland that helped end Communism.......

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