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Polanglik
  Dec 19, 07, 08:57  #181

Quoting: lennyd
many people refer to poles as pollocks like british get brits


I have always thought the term was 'Polak(s)', and I don't believe this is a racist or derogatory label.

Quoting: lennyd
i'm telling you polish are the most racist people in europe they come here and wouldn't work for blacks or rent from asians


where is your evidence to support such a statement ? ...... and I know plenty of Poles who are working for/renting from blacks or asians. If you have a look around London, there are many grocers which are jointly owned by asians and Poles.

Quoting: lennyd
claimed every time they got the ball there was racist chants from very large numbers of the polish crowd making monkey noises

Quoting: lennyd
it doesn't happen here so i think poles are extremely racist towards non whites , most of them hate the british yet have the cheek to come here


have you been to a football match in England recently .... these chants still go on, although less now than say 10 years ago; when England play away in other countries they will also get this sort of abuse .... admittedly more from some countries than others.

i wonder if you really know any Poles to make such a statement that most of them hate the british ...

Quoting: lennyd
i'm not saying no immigration whatsoever but you don't open your borders up that's just insane , points systems visas and our own native citizens should be given priority over employment rights


i have to agree with this up to a point; there should be a minimum threshold criteria which determines who can work in this country - knowledge of the English language etc.. , but once in the country then each applicant should have equal opportunity in getting the job ..... the better qualified/suited should get the job.

However you can't blame the Poles, or any other group of immigrants for the poor state in which this country is in at present..... the Labour government is the one to blame.

Start by kicking out Gordon Brown and his cronies, who after all don't seem to have England's best interests at heart ... maybe Scotland's , but not Englands !

I sometimes get the feeling that Labour is trying to instill a communist regime in this country .... Brits are not happy with this government and if we had an election today I would bet on a Conservative win.

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ukpolska
  Dec 19, 07, 09:10  #182

Quoting: Polanglik
i'm telling you polish are the most racist people in europe they come here and wouldn't work for blacks or rent from asians

Go to Bradford in England and you will see that many Asians are extending their sheds into apartments in their back gardens so that they can make money out of renting them to Polish settlers in the town

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Polanglik
  Dec 19, 07, 10:59  #183

Quoting: ukpolska
Go to Bradford in England and you will see that many Asians are extending their sheds into apartments in their back gardens


same is happening in Slough, and no doubt many other places !

ukpolska, in your last post it appears that I (Polanglik) have made the quote about Poles being the most racist people in europe .... when in fact it was lennyd who made this comment.

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espana
  Dec 19, 07, 11:01  #184

Quoting: Polanglik
most racist people in europe ..

are they?
its not fair!!!!!!!

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 26, 07, 13:44  #185

Scotland more so than England. The mass exodus of Poles to England certainly brought the bigots and racists out from hibernation. Granted, the Poles have accepted low grade work but at least they have provided variety. One of the guiding principles of the EU Treaty was the freedom of workers to move, just look at the Van Binsbergen case in EU Law, so they are merely exercising a freedom bestowed upon them. Yeah, they don't always register with the relevant authorities but nor do other nationalities. I also should have registered here in Poland earlier than I did but that's the way the cookie crumbles. We are not homogeneous in Scotland like in Japan when I was there, which is why we entertain fresh blood. John Lennon said, "Give peace a chance", I say "Give Poles a chance".

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osiol GOLD MEMBER
Edited by: osiol  Dec 26, 07, 13:46  #186

Seanus wrote:
Scotland more so than England

Although the worst poster on this forum claims to be Scottish.
Edit: Or at least to live in Scotland whilst not believing in immigration, so if he's English, he;s an even bigger hypocrite than even I had imagined.

Seanus wrote:
We are not homogeneous in Scotland

True, but neither are we in England.

Let's talk about Wales next.

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 26, 07, 14:46  #187

England is not homogeneous either I agree so Wales, the taffy's, hehehe. Ignore the worst poster, there are losers everywhere. Wales, hmm, u'd better start my friend. One thing, I'm not anti-English as i prefer to evaluate people. I have many English friends so that should put things on an even footing

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lennyd [Guest]
  Dec 27, 07, 17:15  #188

Mass immigration is killing this country. So as a whole, immigrants should not be welcomed.

But that doesn't mean that they should be reviled or hated. I think the best way of looking at the immigration question, and that of the immigrants themselves, comes from the BNP:

"While we often pass critical comment on the impact of mass immigration, multiculturalism and even foreign relations on the indigenous people of our land, we have no animosity towards immigrants, their descendants or the followers of non-native religions.

Where there is "hate" we seek to turn it into righteous anger and political action against the only people who deserve to be hated - the politicians who use our taxes to turn our country into a place where we often feel like strangers in our own land."

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isthatu
  Dec 27, 07, 18:18  #189

this being the same bnp that has that nazi song from the musical Caberet as its unofficial theme song...yes.lets listen to those be suited wanna be nazis shall we,or not.....

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Lettuce
  Dec 27, 07, 20:02  #190

Come on what is Britain anyway? What is any country, after all? - A piece of turf, land, and island. A load of fields and rivers with buildings and maybe a few hills or even a mountain or two. If someone wants to come here who was born somewhere else, why stand in their way? If the government's policies are flawed it's their fault and any critics should be writing to them. Immigration has enriched and improved Britain for centuries - the UK would still be in the stone age if people didnt come and go so much.

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markinlondon
  Dec 28, 07, 13:32  #191

Some people here are being very critical of the UK. But in my view it's not such a bad place. After all, many people want to make their lives here...

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 28, 07, 13:38  #192

I agree, the UK has many great places to go to. We should welcome fresh blood but those immigrants who don't get the jobs they want shouldn't be too dispirited as the same rings true for many Brits.

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Wroclaw Boy GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 28, 07, 13:43  #193

Scotsman wrote:
Hey, all you Polish people, welcome to Britain! We need you here.

Dont you mean welcome to Scotland Jock?

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USA the land of oppotunity... Prove it vote Obama!

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Macduff
  Dec 28, 07, 13:46  #194

So far in the North of Scotland I have not seen to many racist remarks about the Polish imigrant workers.

But next year the UK growth is set to slow down and unemployment rise, this will see a rise in incidents involving Polish people and British people (I hope I am wrong)

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Wroclaw Boy GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 28, 07, 13:52  #195

Dats because nobody lives in the North of Scotland and there is not any work, in time you will feel it if your patriots keep posting silly comments such as forget England and come to Scotland. I really dont know why the Scots hate us so much, must be history I guess. They just cant figure out how we ended up ruling 1/4 of the World. OHH and how the the Scottish football team is soooooo shite.

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 28, 07, 13:54  #196

The Scots have been remarkably tolerant as maybe they are more sure of the skills that they have and what they can bring to the job market. I'd like to see it this way but maybe the reality is that Scotland hasn't experienced the second wave of Poles. The English were initially welcoming to Poles but when hordes starting coming across, the tide turned and the tune changed. The job market was swamped. I have the same fears of Macduff. Scots and Poles are quite alike and that may help keep down any flare-ups

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Macduff
  Dec 28, 07, 13:56  #197

A question to you wroclaw BOY have you been an ******* all your life or is this just a faze your going through?

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Wroclaw Boy GOLD MEMBER
Edited by: Wroclaw Boy  Dec 28, 07, 13:56  #198

Seanus wrote:
Scots and Poles are quite alike and that may help keep down any flare-ups

You show me a similarity and im David Beckham

Macduff wrote:
A question to you wroclaw BOY have you been an ******* all your life or is this just a faze your going through?

Gottcha mee wee ginger jock, I knew you would bite. Im off to bed mate I'll get back to you when, well i feel like it.

Happy New Year!!

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 28, 07, 14:00  #199

Look at their history, they've both been a** r**** by their neighbours. Both are very hospitable. Both like to complain. We both fight our case strongly. Need I continue?

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PolskaDoll
Edited by: PolskaDoll  Dec 28, 07, 14:13  #200

Wroclaw Boy wrote:

Dats because nobody lives in the North of Scotland and there is not any work, in time you will feel it if your patriots keep posting silly comments such as forget England and come to Scotland. I really dont know why the Scots hate us so much, must be history I guess. They just cant figure out how we ended up ruling 1/4 of the World. OHH and how the the Scottish football team is soooooo shite.


Yeah the North of Scotland is abandoned. Just some rogue haggis kicking about up there...

History does show some conflict between Scots and English yes. However, the ruling of a quarter of the world was by the British Empire which, strangely, included Scotland.

Scots do welcome Polish people in general but then again, we always have done, just as the Polish welcomed us in Poland. There's a good article posted in the Scotland thread about Scottish/Polish history but I doubt you'll bother to look for it.


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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 28, 07, 15:37  #201

Scotland did pretty well in their group. Had we beaten Georgia, we'd have been home and dry. Beating France twice is shite is it? At least we didn't draw with Macedonia, AT HOME. Ruling 1/4 of the world is nothing to be proud of unless u r an imperialist. U ought to read The Scottish Enlightenment sunshine, to see the impact we have had on the world, yeah, little old Scotland. Some of the best inventors, engineers, politicians, u name it. Try reading that b4 u get on ur high horse

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truebrit
  Dec 29, 07, 11:01  #202

Britain is a nation of immigrants and migrants.Millions of british people have gone overseas and become immigrants themselves in Australia,New Zealand,Canada,USA,and more recently Spain etc.
For 400 years Britain had the largest empire in history and benefitted and got rich from the hard work of people in India,Africa,Hong Kong,Carribean etc-as well as the hard work of British people themselves.This is the reason there are many people in Britain who originated from those former colonies.
The Polish coming here in large numbers has added to the diversity and with their similarities (enjoying football/alcohol)but also differences(traditional cooking/worship) they set a good example.There is enough work for everyone in the UK but there are sad whingers in every nation.The mostly decent Polish people are welcome here.

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PolskaDoll
Edited by: PolskaDoll  Dec 29, 07, 11:16  #203

truebrit wrote:
Britain is a nation of immigrants and migrants.


Someone speaks sense. From Britain's very roots we are immigrants.

truebrit wrote:
The Polish coming here in large numbers has added to the diversity and with their similarities (enjoying football/alcohol)but also differences(traditional cooking/worship) they set a good example.There is enough work for everyone in the UK but there are sad whingers in every nation.The mostly decent Polish people are welcome here.


I agree with this. If you'd told me a few years ago that I'd be learning to cook Polish food, struggling to learn the Polish language and that some of my best friends would be Polish (or that I'd be a mod on a Polish forum ;) I would have told you "don't talk crazy" :)

I wouldn't have it any other way now.


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ajgraham
  Dec 29, 07, 16:13  #204

Lettuce wrote:
Immigration has enriched and improved Britain for centuries - the UK would still be in the stone age if people didnt come and go so much.


Yeah right ok.. you idiot!!....When comparing the achievements of Brits to any other Country......I think you will find us Brits will run rings around anyone!....They say Britain invented the modern world....What with the Industrial Revolution...Worldwide web...Computers...TV...Radar...DNA....Telephones...Jet Engines etc....Without us Brits i think all of you unachieved people would still be living in the Stone Age don't you think?

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noimmigration
  Dec 29, 07, 16:26  #205

agreed ajgraham, poland has a large european population but has contributed so very little to the modern world.

Scotland is a country of only 5 million but has hugely and unproportionately contributed vast amounts to the world, and britain has a whole makes huge contributions.

what has poland done for us.

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isthatu
  Dec 29, 07, 16:45  #206

Wroclaw Boy wrote:


Seanus wrote:
Scots and Poles are quite alike and that may help keep down any flare-ups

You show me a similarity and im David Beckham

They both have borders with arscheholes
Wroclaw Boy wrote:
I really dont know why the Scots hate us so much,

Im Scots,I dont hate the english,I hate us,the english are wa nkers and were ruled over by........sorry,just went a wee bit Trainspotting there :)
Wroclaw Boy wrote:
They just cant figure out how we ended up ruling 1/4 of the World

Ok,look at any list of names from the history of the British Empire,names of important people that is,and youll find most are Scots or Irish names,Gordon of khartoum etc etc
Wroclaw Boy wrote:
Dont you mean welcome to Scotland Jock?

Sorry Tarquinn
Wroclaw Boy wrote:
Gottcha mee wee ginger jock,

Sorry,you homosexual mousey brown balding hair receding chin englishman.....

ajgraham wrote:
TV...

Scotsman
ajgraham wrote:
Radar

Scotsman
ajgraham wrote:
....Telephones...

Scotsman
ajgraham wrote:
...DNA....

er,God? (but he's probably a scotsman too :) )
noimmigration wrote:
Scotland is a country of only 5 million but has hugely and unproportionately contributed vast amounts to the world, and britain has a whole makes huge contributions.

A point I agree on with you for a change,
noimmigration wrote:
what has poland done for us.

oops,you were doing so well
How about,enabling our boffins to crack the later enigma codes therfore sealing victory in WW2,How about anti personnel mine detectors as used to great effect at El Alamien,probably Britains last great mil' victory.What about the dozens of people of Polish/Jewish desent who are leading lights in the arts and entertainment,I could go on but Im off to watch some telly and drink some vodka....

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 29, 07, 16:52  #207

Isthatu has done my bidding for me, PLEASE read 'The Scottish Enlightenment' Wroc³aw boy, it'll show u that the Scots shaped the modern world. It has a whole chapter on how we excelled in America. England has done some good things, I've just forgotten what they are. Yeah, telly and vodka, what a nice combo.

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isthatu
  Dec 29, 07, 17:03  #208

Seanus wrote:
Yeah, telly and vodka, what a nice combo.

A good Scots/Polish mix...Sorta Bonnie prince pishheed ;)

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Seanus GOLD MEMBER
  Dec 29, 07, 17:17  #209

Slainte mhaite and na zdrowie to that. Yill be awa wee the fairies afore ye ken it aifter at stuff. Sorry, only English, couldn't resist it. Poles like the simple things in life which Scots do to.

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PolskaDoll
  Dec 29, 07, 17:19  #210

Seanus wrote:
Yill be awa wee the fairies afore ye ken it aifter at stuff.


Awa, yer takin' mince mon. :)


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