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Whom do the Polish people hate more: Germans or Russians?


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z_darius
  Feb 19, 08, 12:49  #421

Bratwurst Boy wrote:
Every army in a conflict does bad things...but the Wehrmacht was neither better nor worse than others.

There is a difference between bad things happening and bad things being a result of a policy and orders. German soldiers have been always undoubtedly subordinate so they followed the Fuhrer's words:

"Kill without mercy every man, woman, and child of Polish extraction."

 
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Bratwurst Boy
  Feb 19, 08, 12:52  #422

But they didn't, didn't they?

What's your beef with Germany that you even today use "Nazi" or "Hun" in your arguments?

 
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z_darius
  Feb 19, 08, 13:00  #423

Bratwurst Boy wrote:
But they didn't, didn't they?

But they did.

Bratwurst Boy wrote:
What's your beef with Germany that you even today use "Nazi" or "Hun" in your arguments?

No beef with Germany nor most German, only with you when you glorify war criminals.

 
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Bratwurst Boy
Edited by: Bratwurst Boy  Feb 19, 08, 13:09  #424

No they didn't, or there wouldn't had been any survivors.

The last time you used "Nazi" was in an argument about Kosovo....

 
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Michal
  Feb 19, 08, 14:22  #425

I think to answer the question you have to look at the problem in a different way. It is not a question of whom the Poles like less but after who do the Poles come from? The Polish Nation has inherited some really nasty traits from both sides, especially from the Ukraine where the Poles have taken their nastiest streaks from. Would a German or a Russian want to be a Pole? Not on your bloody life is the answer!!

 
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z_darius
  Feb 19, 08, 14:25  #426

Michal wrote:
I think to answer the question...

Dang, you barely started a sentence and you already managed to lie. Michal, you do not think. You just can't.

 
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polski_zyd
  Feb 19, 08, 14:25  #427

Michal wrote:
Would a German or a Russian want to be a Pole? Not on your bloody life is the answer!!



ffs!

Would a Pole want to be a German or a Russian? Not on your bloody life is the answer!!!

 
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Kilkline
  Feb 20, 08, 03:45  #428

Michal wrote:
Would a German or a Russian want to be a Pole? Not on your bloody life is the answer!!


But you do want to be British dont you Michal? Not everyone sees their nationality as something to be 'upgraded', as you do.

 
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Polson
  Feb 20, 08, 04:20  #429

Michal wrote:
Would a German or a Russian want to be a Pole? Not on your bloody life is the answer!!


Do you think there are Poles wanting to be Russian ? Haha...

 
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djf
  Feb 20, 08, 04:36  #430

z_darius wrote:
German soldiers have been always undoubtedly subordinate so they followed the Fuhrer's words:

"Kill without mercy every man, woman, and child of Polish extraction."


Think you need to check your history again. Not every soldier in the German army was a 'goose stepping' nazi who believed every word Hitler uttered. Thousands were conscripted who did not want to fight and did not believe in the war.

 
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Szczery
Edited by: Szczery  Feb 23, 08, 19:05  #431

The soviets were far worse. Communist bolshevik scum. A regime created by non-europeans.

 
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scorpek
  Feb 24, 08, 06:05  #432

I dont judge a country in cause of something what happent 50 years ago, Im neutral.

 
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PrzemekE
  Feb 24, 08, 09:59  #433

AvJoeUK wrote:
Ze Germans and Ze Russians are coming!


snatch? :)

 
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EbonyandBathory
  Feb 24, 08, 15:53  #434

The problem is, scorpek, in the case of the Russians, things are still happening. Just a few weeks ago they denied their involvement in the Katyn massacre and have threatened Poland if they allowed for the US missile shields to be built there. As a Pole, I don't hate anybody, and I wouldn't assume anything about a person just because he comes from a certain country. But there is such animosity historically between Poland and Germany and Russia and Poland that these things don't go away. I don't dislike Germans. I don't dislike Russians. But Russia's government, I don't trust. This is an important distinction. As Poland and Germany are EU friends now, wounds begin to heal. But Russia and Poland continue to antagonize each other. And it's been this way for 500 years. So to answer the post's question, without the hate, RUSSIANS.

 
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Tommy [Guest]
  Feb 24, 08, 16:53  #435

I am Polish.

I have got a real weakness for Russians. They are our Slavic brothers. A bit too intent on conquest, but still OK.

I have got a real weakness for Germans. They are very imaginative and disciplined people. Yes, they get crazy from time to time and destroy everything, but they are still OK.

The greatest weakness I cherish is for Jewish people. Smart, intelligent guys, maybe too obssessed with money, but still OK.

I love everybody.

Am I abnormal to you????

 
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EbonyandBathory
  Feb 24, 08, 17:57  #436

Abnormal to whom? Certainly not to me.

 
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Eurola ♦ GOLD MEMBER
  Feb 24, 08, 18:07  #437

Szczery wrote:
A regime created by non-europeans.


Ahem, wasn't Karl Marx european and a father of communism? :)
The Russians were just the first to adapt his theory...gee, thanks Karl.

 
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Filios1
  Feb 24, 08, 18:23  #438

Tommy wrote:
I have got a real weakness for Russians. They are our Slavic brothers. A bit too intent on conquest, but still OK.

I have got a real weakness for Germans. They are very imaginative and disciplined people. Yes, they get crazy from time to time and destroy everything, but they are still OK.

The greatest weakness I cherish is for Jewish people. Smart, intelligent guys, maybe too obssessed with money, but still OK.

I love everybody.

Am I abnormal to you????


Yes, you are quite odd.

 
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Szczery
  Feb 24, 08, 19:58  #439

Eurola wrote:
Ahem, wasn't Karl Marx european and a father of communism? :)



"Karl Heinrich Marx was born the third of seven children of a Jewish family in Trier, in the Kingdom of Prussia's Province of the Lower Rhine. His father Heinrich (1777–1838), who had descended from a long line of rabbis"

A jew by blood though there is claim that he converted to christianity. I do not blame jews as a whole for communism but the creator WAS Jewish , as was many of the soviet powers.

 
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Tran Anh
  Feb 29, 08, 01:39  #440

Tommy wrote:
I am Polish.

I have got a real weakness for Russians. They are our Slavic brothers. A bit too intent on conquest, but still OK.

I have got a real weakness for Germans. They are very imaginative and disciplined people. Yes, they get crazy from time to time and destroy everything, but they are still OK.

The greatest weakness I cherish is for Jewish people. Smart, intelligent guys, maybe too obssessed with money, but still OK.

I love everybody.

Am I abnormal to you????


Haha, love your sense of irony!

 
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Grounded
  Feb 29, 08, 03:20  #441

What are those hatred treats about anyway?

Mare Gaea, a lot of polish speak german, work or worked in germany and most of poles i talk to never had a bad word to say about germany. Even met three polish lads in the wee bar at Dublin Airport. They came back from their qualifier game in Portugal and I came back from ours in Wales. We had a great laugh together looking at all the pictures.

However I never met a Pole who spoke dutch. Maybe they hate your country more after all hu?

 
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Arien [Guest]
Edited by: Arien  Feb 29, 08, 03:36  #442

Grounded wrote:
However I never met a Pole who spoke dutch.


I've met hundreds?

By the way, that German-Dutch thing should be seen as jokes, such comments shouldn't be mistaken for real hatred.. The same goes for all the Belgian-Dutch jokes floating about..

 
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Grounded
  Feb 29, 08, 03:46  #443

the german dutch thing is more of a joke i know. used to live in hilversum for a while and never had an issue. infact we always had a great time even when we played each other in football we watched it together.

Once sentence that stopped being funny after hearing it a 1000 times was "ik wil mijn fiets terug"

 
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Arien [Guest]
  Feb 29, 08, 03:57  #444

Ha! I understand. I'm not the one to spout such comments at people though, but sometimes I can make a joke about Germans..

But hey, I'm pretty sure you can think of a few jokes about us too!

 
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Grounded
  Feb 29, 08, 03:59  #445

We even made a song once "Ohne Holland fahrn wir zur WM" :-)

 
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Arien [Guest]
  Feb 29, 08, 04:04  #446

See? You started it..

(lol)

 
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mrwilson
  Mar 2, 08, 20:59  #447

well the german leader during the war didnt like slavs he said they were inferior shame the poles are proving him right by fleeing poland as if it is sum horrible place like somalia

 
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Filios1
Edited by: Filios1  Mar 2, 08, 22:08  #448

mrwilson wrote:
well the german leader during the war didnt like slavs he said they were inferior shame the poles are proving him right by fleeing poland as if it is sum horrible place like somalia


umm.. German leader. Why not say Hitler? How old are you?

 
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mrwilson
  Mar 3, 08, 04:54  #449

we dnt say that word on the polish forum

 
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TripTic
  Mar 3, 08, 07:35  #450

I don't like'em both equaly.

 
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