Do women behave the same way as men?

You said it, sister.

[quote=shopgirl] think the dream guy would have a little bad boy in him, but also a solid gold heart. We all have a little bit of the wild side in us, I think!

A woman told me once that in every girl hides one primitive instinct which wants fun,adventure,emotions and one reasonable part which wants stability,settled life,hapiness.Maybe bad boys appeal to the first instinct while nice guys try to capture the second.

Problem is....if you aren't very careful, you may not know what you have gotten yourself into with a "bad boy" until some disaster has occurred.

And as I said before, if you have been "victimized" by one of these rogues more than once, the whole "bad boy" persona can become an instant red flag, that sending you running in the opposite direction.

When I was in my early twenties, I experienced some of this with flashy, smooth talking bad boys:

had my car "stolen" for 3 weeks without any idea where he had gone

spent a birthday alone and sad, because he was out drinking until 5 am with his buddies, when we had made plans together

had my credit card charged up to the limit (thousands) when he did not turn in a rental car after dropping me at the airport, and then proceeded to rack up traffic tickets all over town in my name (this took a while to clear up, as it was out of state)

one guy that I broke up with, insisted that I attend a party to show that we were still friends, then got jealous that I was talking to another person, called me outside and proceeded to choke me and bent me backwards over a balcony...barely escaped from that, and I had a black eye for a week

was left alone at home while BF was out partying with my coworkers, then police showed, he punched a cop and got hauled off to county, had no idea where he was or why he didn't come home

and there was some other things, but you get the idea...
So I can promise you, that I am not as trusting as I once was, nor as naive, and I have zero tolerance for crap! And if any angry guy comes after me, expect a chair upside his head.

Bad boys quality causes them problems in society but makes them attractive to women.
Basically bad boys pay attention to body language,not what the girls say but their eyes expression,their movements,their tone of voice etc because they communicate with girls in subconscious level having to do with primitive instincts.On the other hand nice guys pay a lot of attention to what a girl literally says and in this way they lose the point.
Your experience is indicative of bad boys meddling consequences.
Even stars who are considered sexy have more a bad boy's look(Robin Williams) than a nice guy look.

omg, you've had some pretty crappy bf. Those sort of experiences would test any persons trust to the limit.
Do you think it was a 'phase' you went through? Why do some people continually make poor choices when it comes to partners?

Robin or Robbie?

Sorry Robbie.

Yeah, men want to be him, women want to be with him.

I think I believed the best of people.

I made too many allowances.

I did not trust my judgement or intuiton enough (now my intuition is like my compass, and I pay attention).

I thought everything could be "talked out" without really understanding who I was "talking to".

But Ken, my experience is not that uncommon. I have seen it far too often, even worse at times. I have helped several women extricate themselves from very abusive realtionships. Talk to any woman....she will have a story of some variation on this theme.

I'm shocked, never thought this sort of thing happened much. What is it with some men? They must be seriously f**ked in the head to do such things.

I don't know what is up with some men.
But I have this to say to you, I don't care what you look like. If you are a good guy, I promise you there is someone out there looking for you. Help her find you, and she will be grateful! There "seem" to be more bad boys, than good.

its definiately not uncommon. Im example of lots of disasters with "bad boys"...
starting from loosing all friends and being in abusive relationship finishing at debts and all sorts of things.

Who the heck is Robbie Williams?

English pop star. A bit of a rogue, in and out of rehab. Girls love him.

Do you see?This is a confusing statement in men's words.A guy would comment she wanted it,she got it.

That's nice, I will keep that thought with me for the times when things aren't going well.



I genuinely feel sorry for those who have suffered such horrible relationships. Life can be cruel and it can teach some harsh lessons.

It seems to me that women are very forgiving creatures and unfortunatley this quality is abused by certain men. It is understandable why men in general get a poor reputation.

you sure?

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You turn people away from reading the forum espana this way.There are so many polish beauties,to post such photos is insulting.
Women who are abused do not seem like the one in the photo.Except if bunia or shopgirl have a different opinion.

this is not a woman is a man and i was joking
she said ,,,i dont care what you look like.
so i posted are you sure?
and them
the photo of this man ok
insulting ???????? i dont think soo

OK, let me spell it out a bit more. "A little bit of a bad boy" would have a bit of an edge...but still be a good person.

"Edgy" can mean different things to different people, but for me it would be something like:
dresses sharp (lots of black, I adore men with long hair, a little bit of jewelry (don't overdo it)-maybe an earring, maybe some leather, clothing that shows he put some thought into it, takes care of his appearance, but not too smooth-maybe a little rough around the edges so he does'nt seem too prissy), smart (quick, intelligent, well educated but doesn't flaunt it), unpredictable (not boring), a little mysterious (but can also talk and lay it all out on the table we you need him to), strong (no whining, please), adventurous (this is where the motorcyles, pilots, rock climbers, snowboarders, musicians, etc. come in).

Omg, I have partially described the Polish guy that ran off with my heart...
and he was a good guy....

This is the bad boy.You do not ask for any contradicting qualities,it is simply the bad boy.

Really?
Good guy can't be this?
Have I described you, Southern?

You have not described me.And sure you have not described Ken Noddy.
This is the problem with girls.You want qualities difficult to coexist on the same time.A warrior outside and a sensitive heart inside.To change from the one to the other,not easy for guys.Especially to sacrifice.

shopgirl sorry not to back you on that but you kinda described bad boy. Well maybe not generally bad boy but one that wouldnt fit under "good boy" category. You described free spirit, wild, advenurous etc.
What i ment as a good boy was some1 who maybe wouldnt take you to have wild night in rome (prolly you will find out later that it was money from your own credit card) and then dissapears in the morning (still with you card) but some1 who will be there for you every single morning with a smile on his face saying "good morning" in your old cosy bed.
are there any good guys left out there ????

Are there any good girls left out there !



This is so true yet so difficult to attain. Trying to get the right balance between the caring, loving side while still attempting to maintain a masculine identity and not turn into a complete whimp.

There are good girls everywhere, maybe you're not looking enough hard, good luck anyway!

I'm a good girl.

maybe when you're sleeping

He was/is a very good person.
He was kind to everyone (everyone liked him-you couldn't help it), and he had excellent manners. He was a hard worker, and even said himself that he liked to see things done correctly. He takes care of his family (he stayed with a parent in the hospital everyday for about three weeks and the last time I spoke to him-about a week ago he was at the hospital again). He tries to please everyone (friends, family, boss), to the point that he has little time for himself. He was not a "player". He was a gentleman. And he had long hair, could play the guitar and sing, wore interesting clothes, had a earring, did not complain (I heard him saying one day how annoying it was to him to hear others complaining), he was very smart, always smiling and laughing....playful and not too serious, favorite color was black :).

Yep, he was a little bit of heaven.

So I think we have run into another stereotype, and maybe I had found the exception.

You obviously have some strong feelings towards this gentleman, he does sound like a really decent guy. Why aren't you together? Does he know you feel this way about him?