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An American studying in Poland - CELTA, SAT?


logantylerr
27 Sep 2012 #1
Hello everyone, my name is Logan and I am from Los Angeles. I am an 18 year old white male and I want to study in Poland. I graduated high school with a 3.3 GPA (if any of you know how the american school system works). I know some of you say that I should stay in California, however, I am determined to study in Poland. Anyway, what are my chances to study in Poland? Does the CELTA make my chances better? Do I need to take the SAT? Money isn't a problem. I have completed the CELTA program and would like to teach after I finish University in Poland.

Thank you,
Logan
rybnik 18 | 1,454
27 Sep 2012 #2
Boy do I wish there was a PF when I set out for Poland!
Harry
27 Sep 2012 #3
Logan,
Finish school, and then come out here. Right now you'd be fresh meat for the grinder. After graduation, you could expect all the women your tongue can cope with (YMMV).
OP logantylerr
27 Sep 2012 #4
My girlfriend is from Poznań. I suppose my main question is: am I qualified to study and will I be accepted?
scottie1113 7 | 898
27 Sep 2012 #5
Why didn't you take the SAT? And why haven't you registered here?
OP logantylerr
27 Sep 2012 #6
Good idea! I will register.

Will the SAT make me a better candidate? I simply want to know if my idea is realistic.

Thanks for the interest :)
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
27 Sep 2012 #7
If you're willing to pay, your grades are meaningless as long as you've finished high school.

My girlfriend is from Poznań.

Absolutely the wrong reason to come here.
Lenka 5 | 3,485
27 Sep 2012 #8
If you're willing to pay, your grades are meaningless as long as you've finished high school.

That's quite right-especially with private universities.I can't recommend them.

Absolutely the wrong reason to come here.

I agree.Let's just hope that despite wrong reason he 'll have a great time here.

Will the SAT make me a better candidate?

I'm sorry I can't help you here.
phtoa 9 | 236
27 Sep 2012 #9
Will the SAT make me a better candidate? I simply want to know if my idea is realistic.

You won't need this.
As long as your willing to pay the money it costs, then they will easily accept you.
Expect tuition of 4000 EUR pr. year or so.
pantsless 1 | 267
27 Sep 2012 #10
Of course you're fluent in Polish, right? As how else would you expect to study in Poland where the official language is Polish.
You will probably need to get your H.S. diploma nostrified.
nauka.gov.pl/?id=1157
The SAT doesn't mean anything in Poland so don't worry about it.

Just btw, any no-name university in the US is lightyears better in terms of education and more "prestigious" than any university in Poland. And people change a lot after 4 years of college, you'll probably be a completely different person with different priorities and probably not with your girlfriend anymore. But you're 18, deeply in love and you know better. I was the same. Good luck.
Orpheus - | 114
27 Sep 2012 #11
So the University of Buttf^k Alabama is better than, e.g. Jagiellonian University in Kraków. OK, thanks for the information.
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
27 Sep 2012 #12
Get yourself into one of the US Uni's first and then take a year or two out at a Polish one if you want to,Im not sure how your system works for exchanges etc but Im sure there is something in place for you.

The trouble for those from the USA is they expect to have to pay to get into a good Uni so when they see a Uni with a fancy european name that charges high prices they could be conned into believing they will gain the same level of education as in the US,not gonna happen. Dont get me wrong,some courses in some Unis in Poland are at the tops of the game,but many many are literally only there to take your money and give you the grade you can afford,nice in theory,useless when trying to find employment .
Lenka 5 | 3,485
27 Sep 2012 #13
they expect to have to pay to get into a good Uni so when they see a Uni with a fancy european name that charges high prices they could be conned into believing they will gain the same level of education as in the US

Quite right-if you want good education-be careful.
Here you have some ranking:
perspektywy.pl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1434&Itemid=480
You can even find someone in similar situation and ask them for some advice,
logantyler - | 2
27 Sep 2012 #14
Absolutely the wrong reason to come here.

I also have some friends and a family member there. :-) I have always been interested in Polish culture and want to improve my language skills. Therefor my girlfriend isn't the only reason.

Thanks for the replies everyone!
pantsless 1 | 267
28 Sep 2012 #15
So the University of Buttf^k Alabama is better than, e.g. Jagiellonian University in Kraków. OK, thanks for the information.

Yes. I've studied at the Jagellonian University btw. And the University of Wroclaw. Wow, and check out the rating of the University of (Buttfk) Alabama, not bad if you ask me.
Meathead 5 | 469
28 Sep 2012 #16
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Of_Alabama
Orpheus - | 114
28 Sep 2012 #17
There are 61 colleges and universities in Alabama. Do all of them rate higher than Jagiellonian?
pantsless 1 | 267
28 Sep 2012 #18
If you did the legwork to find out that there are "61" colleges and universities then go find out yourself how their ranked. I personally dont care about rankings, Im speaking from personal experience, higher education in Poland is pretty bad, incredibly outdated and entirely focused on memorzation. Hmm I didnt want to say this but I also work for a public university cough cough.
Orpheus - | 114
29 Sep 2012 #19
Im speaking from personal experience,

So am I.

I also work for a public university

So do I.

I personally dont care about rankings

Neither do I.

higher education in Poland is pretty bad

Depends on the institution and/or the faculty. Blanket statements do not inform.

pretty bad, incredibly outdated and entirely focused on memorzation

Not my experience at all. Perhaps you need a change.
pantsless 1 | 267
29 Sep 2012 #20
Depends on the institution and/or the faculty. Blanket statements do not inform.

Well of course it depends on the school/department/faculty/course/year/funding/if the heating is working... etc. Ive met many excellent researchers and teaching professors, some cutting-edge research, some very bright and motivated students (half of which leave the country after finishing school), many universities expanding and building with very impressive facilities and providing excellent funding. And obviously I havent dealt with every university in PL... but I think the overall majority of it stinks. Disinterested professors who only care about their paychecks, the entire feudal hierarchy (and if you actually do work for a university you know exactly what Im talking about and how bad it is), bad blood between various departments, a massive massive problem with cheating/plagiarism/absenteeism/bribery, sheer laziness and mediocrity ... I could go on and on and on...

Not my experience at all. Perhaps you need a change.

No, personally Im very happy here. But that doesnt prevent from seeing the general modus operandi


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