English teacher from Turkey, have any chance to work in Poland?

turkishgrlThreads: 1 Posts: 11 Joined: Oct 2, 10 ♀	Oct 2, 10, 20:54 #1
Hi! I'm a Turkish girl, I'm looking for english or turkish teaching position in Poland. I'm graduated from ELT department in Turkey. Do I have any chance to find sth there?

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 2, 10, 20:59 #2
Teaching English, yes. Teaching Turkish, not really. It could be the kebab route only on that front.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Oct 2, 10, 21:07 #3
turkishgrl: Hi! I'm a Turkish girl, I'm looking for english or turkish teaching position in Poland. I'm graduated from ELT department in Turkey. Do I have any chance to find sth there? Well, for a start, we don't say "I am graduated from". Not to be mean, but as a non-English native and non-Polish (and presumably requiring a work permit) - your English needs to be flawless. And it's not.

turkishgrlThreads: 1 Posts: 11 Joined: Oct 2, 10 ♀	Oct 2, 10, 21:07 #4
Yes I guess the same for turkish:) So for English , how can I search? I feel like english courses in Poland just focusing to the native ones:(

MagdalenaThreads: 5 Posts: 1,389 Joined: Aug 15, 07 ♀	Oct 2, 10, 21:09 #5
turkishgrl: turkish teaching position in Poland If you have a degree, you could always apply for a teaching position at one of the Oriental Studies departments at Polish universities. Turkish Studies is Turkologia in Polish. http://www.orient.uw.edu.pl/en/structure.html http://www.filg.uj.edu.pl/ifo/turkologia/

turkishgrlThreads: 1 Posts: 11 Joined: Oct 2, 10 ♀	Oct 2, 10, 21:14 #6
I'm looking for some help. You don't need to be rude.

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Oct 2, 10, 21:15 #7

turkishgrl:

I'm looking for english or turkish teaching position in Poland

Yes I guess it is very difficult to find a teaching position unless you are native in English. And for Turkish not zero (but very close to zero) but there is very small possibility to find something.

I think Turkish is not difficult as Polish, I met some Polish people here with almost perfect Turkish skills.

Why do you want to work in Poland ?

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Oct 2, 10, 21:16 #8
turkishgrl: I'm looking for some help. You don't need to be rude. I thought that was both helpful and polite.

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 2, 10, 21:18 #9
Americans get employment here because of the tax dodges for EU TEFL schools. However, EU nationals are more and more preferred and Turkey isn't really a core part of Europe so your quest might be tough. Turks speak Turkish, not English, as their first language. Slavic languages are preferred here.

turkishgrlThreads: 1 Posts: 11 Joined: Oct 2, 10 ♀	Oct 2, 10, 21:19 #10
I wrote that for delphiandomine. thanks for other messages.

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Oct 2, 10, 21:28 #11
turkishgrl: I wrote that for delphiandomine. thanks for other messages. Yes, I know. I thought his response to you was neither unhelpful nor rude.

DarrenMThreads: 2 Posts: 126 Joined: Dec 21, 07 ♂	Oct 2, 10, 21:28 #12
turkishgrl: I'm looking for some help. You don't need to be rude Delphiandomine was being honest. It may have been a little direct for your liking but it most certainly wasn't rude.

turkishgrlThreads: 1 Posts: 11 Joined: Oct 2, 10 ♀	Oct 2, 10, 21:29 #13
Magdalena: If you have a degree, you could always apply for a teaching position at one of the Oriental Studies departments at Polish universities. Turkish Studies is Turkologia in Polish. http://www.orient.uw.edu.pl/en/structure.html http://www.filg.uj.edu.pl/ifo/turkologia/ I have Bachelor degree on English Language Teaching. I don't have any documents for Turkish Studies:(

SeanusThreads: 22 Posts: 30,158 Joined: Dec 25, 07 ♂	Oct 2, 10, 21:30 #14
You have a Bachelor's degree in ELT, that should help. Turkish isn't much sought after here.

turkishgrlThreads: 1 Posts: 11 Joined: Oct 2, 10 ♀	Oct 2, 10, 21:32 #15
DarrenM: Delphiandomine was being honest. It may have been a little direct for your liking but it most certainly wasn't rude. richasis: Yes, I know. I thought his response to you was neither unhelpful nor rude. Ok! Im the bad one! Sorry!!

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Oct 2, 10, 21:34 #16
turkishgrl: Ok! Im the bad one! Sorry!! Not at all - best of luck! :)

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Oct 2, 10, 21:39 #17

Seanus:

Turkish isn't much sought after here.

Yes but also not too many Turkish people is seeking a position to teach Turkish in Poland so she may have a chance.

turkishgrl:

turkishgrl

Magdalena's links maybe helpfull, You can mail or call them and ask if there is any open position and what are the requirements, Since you are native in Turkish and have a degree for teaching English you may have a chance (they may ask for some additional certificate).

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Edited by: jonni Oct 2, 10, 21:39 #18

mephias:

Yes I guess it is very difficult to find a teaching position unless you are native in English.

You'd be surprised! Though for non-native non-Poles the main possibilities (in Warsaw anyway) are either doing the Callan Method or being very lucky and finding a real language school who are looking for teachers but can't find enough (often due to all their clients wanting lessons at the same time of day).

If you're also looking at places other than Poland, why not Saudi Arabia? The work usually pays quite well and female teachers are always in demand due to the large number of female students - there are plenty of Turkish people teaching English there, and if you are Muslim, this is a definite advantage too.

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Oct 2, 10, 21:39 #19

mephias:

Yes I guess it is very difficult to find a teaching position unless you are native in English. And for Turkish not zero (but very close to zero) but there is very small possibility to find something.

I think Turkish is not difficult as Polish, I met some Polish people here with almost perfect Turkish skills.

Why do you want to work in Poland ?

Yes Polish is very very difficult! I've been there for 9 months and I speak little! I want work there because of my boyfriend. I hope I can find sth.

richasisThreads: 5 Posts: 833 Joined: Jul 25, 09 ♂	Oct 2, 10, 21:41 #20
jonni: why not Saudi Arabia? That's a great thought worth considering.

mephiasThreads: 15 Posts: 812 Joined: Nov 14, 08 MEMBER ♂	Oct 2, 10, 21:47 #21
turkishgrl: I want work there because of my boyfriend. I hope I can find sth Ah typical reason. Wish you luck.

turkishgrlThreads: 1 Posts: 11 Joined: Oct 2, 10 ♀	Oct 2, 10, 21:49 #22
jonni: If you're also looking at places other than Poland, why not Saudi Arabia? The work usually pays quite well and female teachers are always in demand due to the large number of female students - if you are Muslim, this is a definite advantage too. I want find sth in Poland. It isn't about money. Anyway, thanks for your ideas.

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Oct 2, 10, 22:06 #23

turkishgrl:

I'm looking for some help. You don't need to be rude.

Ah why hello! Nice to meet a Turkish person on here. I read that there's only 64 Turkish citizens in Poland and only 86 Greek ones, lol. I say that because I am half Greek and half Polish. I really like Turkey though, I have Turkish people in my family and have been there many times. May I ask why you chose Poland? I mean I love Poland, but if I were you I would get a visa or EU citizenship so you could travel all over the EU and teach. I read in the Economist the other day how Switzerland is in dire need of people like you. But go wherever your heart desires ^_^

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Edited by: delphiandomine Oct 2, 10, 22:13 #24

jonni:

You'd be surprised! Though for non-native non-Poles the main possibilities (in Warsaw anyway) are either doing the Callan Method or being very lucky and finding a real language school who are looking for teachers but can't find enough (often due to all their clients wanting lessons at the same time of day).

I suspect that outside of Warsaw, she'd have a hell of a struggle - unless she was in some small town where the local language school will hire anyone that can speak English to a reasonable standard.

It's worth bearing in mind that barely any school is going to go to the effort of applying for a work permit for a non-native to teach English - in fact, I'd question whether a work permit would even be granted for a non-EU, non-native English speaker to teach English.

The best way "in" as it were would be to come to Poland on a student visa, studying at one of the numerous "private" institutions that exist more-or-less to give non-EU people a route into the EU - and working in Callan schools and the like for cash in hand.

mephiasThreads: 15 Posts: 812 Joined: Nov 14, 08 MEMBER ♂	Oct 2, 10, 22:13 #25
Georger8600 She already answered this question :). turkishgrl: I want work there because of my boyfriend.

AmathystThreads: 30 Posts: 3,968 Joined: Nov 10, 06 ♀	Edited by: Amathyst Oct 2, 10, 22:20 #26
Seanus: /turkologia/ I have Bachelor degree on English Language Teaching. Yet you still cant write correctly...I'd ask for my money back if I were you. turkishgrl: I'm looking for some help. You don't need to be rude. Would you learn Turkish off someone foreigner who learnt it as a second language? Or would you learn Turkish off a Turkish person who had teaching qualifications in Turkish?

turkishgrlThreads: 1 Posts: 11 Joined: Oct 2, 10 ♀	Oct 2, 10, 22:29 #27
Amathyst: Would you learn Turkish off someone foreigner who learnt it as a second language? yes, best is learning from native ones. I just try to learn my chance.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Oct 2, 10, 22:36 #28
turkishgrl: yes, best is learning from native ones. I just try to learn my chance. The thing is - why should anyone hire you when your written skills are poor? There's countless thousands of English graduates being churned out every year in Poland from public universities - all of them need jobs and are willing to work for penauts. Why you?

turkishgrlThreads: 1 Posts: 11 Joined: Oct 2, 10 ♀	Oct 2, 10, 22:39 #29
Amathyst: Yet you still cant write correctly...I'd ask for my money back if I were you. I'm here to learn about sth different. Please can you stop checking my English.

delphiandomineThreads: 42 Posts: 9,954 Joined: Nov 25, 08 ♂ [Suspended]	Oct 2, 10, 22:44 #30
turkishgrl: I'm here to learn about sth different. Please can you stop checking my English. Well, you want to be an English teacher - so what do you expect? You can't teach English if you don't know it!

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