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gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 13:44    #1
Ive been living in warsaw now for 17 months and i am fed up of teaching its time to do something else...please help me
HarryThreads: 62
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Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Jan 4, 12, 13:45    #2
gary200481:
its time to do something else

Well, what are you qualified to do and what can you do better than Poles can do? And have you got the necessary language skills?
JonnyMThreads: 16
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Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 13:48    #3
And for that matter do you have the wherewithal to get decent teaching work, not just punting out Headway etc to plebs?
gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 13:55    #4
unfortunatly im un-skilled i used to work in construction in england and am pretty much stuck in teaching,no degree is a big minus.....i have been teaching callan for 16 months and my brain is sozzled
HarryThreads: 62
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Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Jan 4, 12, 13:57    #5
gary200481:
no degree is a big minus.....i have been teaching callan for 16 months and my brain is sozzled

Start by getting out of Callan!
gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 13:57    #6
harry and jonny what do you fellas do??????????????????
Sobieski1Threads: 3
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 14:00    #7
Its a job what you want it pays you dont it
gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 14:00    #8
yeah but teaching is good and sometimes i enjoy it but i really dont know if its for me in the long term.my gf is polish and we live here indefinitly just want so much to be able to do something else.reading a book for 40 zlots an hour is not why im on this planet
JonnyMThreads: 16
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Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂ 		Edited by: JonnyM  Jan 4, 12, 14:01    #9
gary200481:
i have been teaching callan for 16 months and my brain is sozzled

I bet. There's call centre work, but mostly not in Warsaw. You can advertise native speaker korepetycja (lessons to 15 - 18 year olds - often helping with homework) in the paper. A friend does fairly well from that, and a native is at an advantage. Unfortunately there isn't much - unless you speak good Polish. There's decent work in construction, but you'd need the language skills and uprawnienie (your ticket -for plumbing, sparky, bricklaying etc) and even then there's a lot of luck involved in getting the right work. Work in Poland is often found through personal contacts, but even then, it isn't always easy.
gary200481:
harry and jonny what do you fellas do??????????????????

I went there as a teacher, ended up (part) owing a language school with 30 teachers (more by luck and hustling than ability), sold it to a recruitment agency (not entirely by choice) started another one as sole owner with only 4 teachers, sold that because the margins on lessons by 2009 weren't worth the effort in selling them to companies and now work elsewhere. Qatar at the moment, but sometimes on a ship, sometimes in Africa. Warsaw is still home. It can be difficult in Poland, but with teaching, if you want to enjoy it and you want to live well, you have to be constantly networking.
gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 14:03    #10
Sobieski1:
Its a job what you want it pays you dont it


have you tried teaching callan?????
pipThreads: 11
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Joined: Jul 4, 11 ♀ 		 Jan 4, 12, 14:06    #11
would you be interested in working in construction again? can you lay tiles, do electrical, plumbing?
gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		Edited by: gary200481  Jan 4, 12, 14:08    #12
pretty much no,i worked in scaffolding for 16 yrs and had a little experience of laying tiles but that was a long time ago.it would depend on what i would be doing if i was interested or not
Sobieski1Threads: 3
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		Edited by: Sobieski1  Jan 4, 12, 14:11    #13
To be fair i havent, it was a bigoted remark sorry thing didnt work out in scaffolding, construction in the UK is a right mess these days and some hard working polish lads have been laid off even though they are excellent workers
gary200481Threads: 8
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Sobieski1:
sorry thing didnt work out in scaffolding, construction in the UK is a right mess these days and some hard working polish lads have been laid off even though they are excellent workers

recession has killed the building game in England.
HarryThreads: 62
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Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Jan 4, 12, 14:23    #15
gary200481:
reading a book for 40 zlots an hour is not why im on this planet

If I told my boss that my job is why I'm on this planet, I'd be fired for telling such insultingly obvious lies.

It's called a job because they pay you money to do it. If you'd do it for free, it's called a hobby (or voluntary work).

Although with that said, I can see how teaching nothing but Callan for 16 months would crush anybody's will to live. Have you thought about doing a CELTA at the Bell school in Warsaw? Not having a degree is certainly not going to stop the better schools in Warsaw from hiring you.
gary200481Threads: 8
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Harry:
Not having a degree is certainly not going to stop the better schools in Warsaw from hiring you.

really???

Harry:
: reading a book for 40 zlots an hour is not why im on this planet

its called sarcasm mate,im English its what we do
HarryThreads: 62
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Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Jan 4, 12, 14:37    #17
gary200481:
really???

Very much so. The exception will be schools which are MEN (Polish Min of Education) inspected: those schools have to employ only graduates and will check certificates which are given to them. But there aren't many of such schools in Warsaw (the hassle outweighs the rewards).

As far as I know, currently PASE (the Polish Association for Standards in English, the trade body for EFL schools) require that 90% of all classes are taught by graduates. But I know of cases where schools have happily employed non-graduates and then just before being inspected (which happens once every three years) they work out the percentage taught by graduates and sanitise the paperwork before making sure that during the inspection period the percentage is correct by substituting teachers as needed.

Frankly, you've got a bit going for you. If a school has a choice between an older (you're at least mid 30s, right) bloke who is married and settled in Warsaw or a fresh-faced 22-year old graduate who just arrived and is here to drink and shag as much as possible, which do you think that they are going to take?
gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 19:10    #18
do you have any good schools you know of??????

i eft my callan teaching job today-i just couldnt face it anymore................now unemployed
HarryThreads: 62
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You got a CELTA?
gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 19:13    #20
no mate just got a TEFL certificate
HarryThreads: 62
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Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Jan 4, 12, 19:18    #21
What kind?

Now isn't the best of times to be looking for a teaching job but there are always a few who don't come back from Christmas or inter-semester break. You set up your own company yet?
gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 19:25    #22
yes mate im all regon/pesel and zus compliant,what do you mean what kind of tefl,it was a basic weekend course at a college in london about 2 and a half years ago......................went to my school today to discuss my next weeks plan of work and why i hadnt received it and everyone else had and she basically told me to go jump so i did....10 mins before my scheduled lessons.....very un-proffesiona i know but you can ony stand so much.
mauritius_2302Threads: 10
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Joined: Dec 4, 11 ♂ 		 Jan 4, 12, 20:03    #23
Mate correct me if I am wrong, but I guess that if you are rejecting a 40zl/hr job does it mean you will be looking for a job better paid than this or just something which is not boring??? Although you'll be paid less?
gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		Edited by: gary200481  Jan 4, 12, 20:19    #24
doesnt have to be better paid just maybe not callan,its absolutely worn me down and dont think mate that its like 40zlty an hour and i work 8 hrs a day,if that was the case i wouldnt be moaning i was lucky to get 28 hrs a week
WroclawThreads: 77
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gary200481:
doesnt have to be better paid


now is the time that one or two out there realize that they are going to have problems with the english matura.

in other words u may pick up a few private lessons.

might be convenient for u, if you bumped into one or two pupils from your last place of employ.
mauritius_2302Threads: 10
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Joined: Dec 4, 11 ♂ 		 Jan 6, 12, 12:59    #26
So I can say to you mate is that, carry on with what you are doing! Save some money if you haven't and then open a business for yourself! And keep your job as a part time one just to pay your rent or save for holidays! Mauritius is not a bad place to go though! lol! ;) gl
HarryThreads: 62
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Joined: May 2, 07 ♂ [Suspended] 		 Jan 6, 12, 13:46    #27
gary200481:
she basically told me to go jump

Just out of interest, would she answer to the name "Agnieszka" by any chance?

I think that your best bet is to just start going round language schools and dropping your CV off. You can almost certainly pick up a few hours here, a few hours there, a few hours somewhere else, a few hours in a different place. Working for several different places is always better than working for one place: the school director will know that if you're only working 20% of your hours at her school, she needs you a lot more than you need her.
gary200481Threads: 8
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Joined: Jan 4, 12 ♂ 		Edited by: gary200481  Jan 6, 12, 15:02    #28
Harry:
Just out of interest, would she answer to the name "Agnieszka" by any chance?
and last name begins with b married to an englishman and has a school in old town??? i worked with said person before,lets just say i wont be going back any time soon


no this lady if i can call her that was from supposedly the biggest school brand in warsaw something along the lines of engishbestway=jokers

still have had no contact from the school to officially say that yes i am in fact fired
JonnyMThreads: 16
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Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂ 		Edited by: JonnyM  Jan 6, 12, 21:28    #29
gary200481:
still have had no contact from the school to officially say that yes i am in fact fired

Don't touch them, hawk your CV around (lie - nobody cares about truth of the details providing you deliver the goods) and try Orange School.

Plus - spend a bit of cash (max 500) on ads in GW for korepetycja and use the free ads noticeboards in supermarkets in posh areas. Try Kabaty and Lomianki.
JonnyMThreads: 16
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Joined: Mar 9, 11 ♂ 		 Jan 6, 12, 21:35    #30
gary200481:
GW?

Gazeta Wyborcza, the Warsaw edition.

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