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Will it be easy to find a job within 6-10 months of moving to Poland?


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strelicaaThreads: 1
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 Dec 21, 09, 01:19    #1
OOOOOOOOOOOOK , so i am serbian, but i speak english perfectlly and im learning polish and its still far away from perfection. So my question is, if i would move to Poland, how hard would be finding job? I have master deegre in investments managment. Oh yeah, my reason nu 1 for this movement is boyfriend of course. I really want to know what You all think and do You have some advice? I would like to find job in first one 6-10 months after moveing. Do u think its realistic? Thanks

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 Dec 21, 09, 01:21    #2
Investments management, nice! I would imagine that there is plenty of work available in that area. Plus, you can move there more easily now due to the recent travel restrictions being eased.

It just depends who you know. I'd check for a position long before you leave for here.
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 Dec 21, 09, 01:29    #3
Молимо Вас да пишете на енглеском. These are the rules of the forum. You can write private messages in Polish but not regular ones.

Which part of Poland are you targetting?
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 Dec 21, 09, 17:37    #4
Sorry!!!
Im open for any area of Poland but since i am from capital and i used to fast life i would prefer Warsaw, but as i said, any part is acceptable
Tara  Dec 22, 09, 13:28    #5
There is no work in Poland. Unless you have a Polish education and speak Polish and it might help to know someone, and that sometimes doesn't help unless you invite the person to dinner with wine or pay him high amount of zloty you will get a job. This is what is happening in Warsaw.
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 Dec 22, 09, 13:57    #6
strelicaa:
speak english perfectlly

wishful thinking...
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 Dec 22, 09, 14:01    #7
I have never lived or worked in Warsaw nor I'm a foreiner in this country, but I would recommend to look for a job in different polish cities; Kraków, Wroc³aw, Poznań. The cost of living in Warsaw is very high even for natives, that's what I heard. besides Warsaw is already full of Poles from different parts of Poland, who thought of a career in the capital. on the other hand you can base your search on your language knowledge. for your search try to get in touch with HR companies; HRK, grafton, randstad or go to google for "oferty pracy".
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 Dec 22, 09, 14:13    #8
Tara:
and that sometimes doesn't help unless you invite the person to dinner with wine or pay him high amount of zloty you will get a job. This is what is happening in Warsaw.

Dinner with wine? Really?!
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Edited by: delphiandomine  Dec 22, 09, 14:42    #9
Tara:
There is no work in Poland. Unless you have a Polish education and speak Polish and it might help to know someone, and that sometimes doesn't help unless you invite the person to dinner with wine or pay him high amount of zloty you will get a job. This is what is happening in Warsaw.

No work in Poland? That's why Poznan has an absurdly low employment rate compared to most of Poland, and it's actually difficult to find talented workers here?

Maybe if you want a very specific job in a very specific area, it can help to grease a palm - but that goes on everywhere. I don't think anyone would be particularly shocked at the idea of corruption in hiring, especially in smaller privately owned companies.

A Polish education is hardly seen as definitive - I think every single Polish person knows that the vast majority of education in this country has been obtained with cheating in some way or another.

There are jobs- but knowing people does indeed help.
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 Dec 22, 09, 14:49    #10
Tara:
Unless you have a Polish education

Had to put down my drink for that one.
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 Dec 22, 09, 15:07    #11
My cousin in Torun tells us that to get work ,one has to travel outside the country.Polish people work in Germany,France and even the U.K.To get a job in Poland,she say,you might as well forget about it.
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Edited by: jwojcie  Dec 22, 09, 16:19    #12
It will be hard, but your Serbian could be an asset because it is very rare here. English and some economy related degree is quite common so you face big competition. Some Serbian related postitions at the moment:
http://praca.money.pl/customer;service;professional;-;croatian;and;ser bian;hrvatski;srpski;jezyk;chorwacki;i;serbski,warszawa,oferta,2234924 .html

http://praca.money.pl/specjalista;ds;obslugi;klienta;zagranicznego,war szawa,oferta,2399315.html


http://praca.money.pl/spedytor;miedzynarodowy;jezyk;serbski;chorwacki; wegierski;rumunski,warszawa,oferta,2233269.html

PS. you can check job related sites once in a while, it would give you an idea at least where are your chances, for now it seems only Warsaw needs some Serbian speakers
Thomas88  Dec 22, 09, 17:43    #13
polkamaniac My cousin in Torun tells us that to get work ,one has to travel outside the country.Polish people work in Germany,France and even the U.K.To get a job in Poland,she say,you might as well forget about it.


That is the truth.

And someone mentioned Poznan here... please show ... because doing job searchings on all those websites I see most in Warsaw. If you want to work by only using your English it's almost 100% impossible in Warsaw, in Poznan- even non English positions very very hard to find something. Krakow is almost impossible to, unless you want customer service or telemarketer, then you should find something for 2500 zloty netto.
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 Dec 23, 09, 17:49    #14
So u all pretty much discourage me :(((( I watched of tv some reportage about Poland and they were saying all positive, how is now much better life in poland, how young people with diploma are finding job pretty easy...
and i m learning polish now cause i want to know some of language before i move there....hope polish language will be my advantage
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 Dec 23, 09, 20:59    #15
Thomas88:
And someone mentioned Poznan here... please show ... because doing job searchings on all those websites I see most in Warsaw.

You're making the big mistake of searching for jobs online. The vast majority of jobs are by either word of mouth, or by personal contact. The internet is *not* a reliable measure of the jobmarket, unlike in the USA.

strelicaa:
So u all pretty much discourage me :((((

I think it's doable. Drop me an e-mail at office@lindenia.net and I'll be happy to give you some advice :)
Thomas88  Dec 24, 09, 12:19    #16
delphiandomine
You're making the big mistake of searching for jobs online. The vast majority of jobs are by either word of mouth, or by personal contact. The internet is *not* a reliable measure of the jobmarket, unlike in the USA.

Is that the only option, so I should dress in a tux and walk to companies, but alot of big companies in Warsaw, you need to get thru security entrance and if you don't have an appointment they won't let you in. Basically the key is to know people which is hard if you move there from aboard.
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 Dec 24, 09, 12:33    #17
Thomas88:
Is that the only option, so I should dress in a tux and walk to companies, but alot of big companies in Warsaw, you need to get thru security entrance and if you don't have an appointment they won't let you in. Basically the key is to know people which is hard if you move there from aboard.

You need to get out there and network with people - sending CV's blind is rarely going to see a result in Poland. Especially in Warsaw, there's a lot of opportunity to do just that.

If you can't get through security - find a way in - initative!

My other recommendation would be to take a teaching job in the meantime - many interesting people take lessons and can help you :)
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 Dec 24, 09, 14:44    #18
strelicaa:
Will it be easy to find a job within 6-10 months of moving to Poland?

No.

1. Financial crisis. Poland wasn't hit hard by It compared to most other European countries, few comapnies are reducing employment but even fewer are hiring new people, the labor market is in stagnation and that probably won't change earlier than in a year.

2. Comapnies here are not used to employ foreigners. Unless you are really fluent in Polish, in case of vast majority of jobs you've got no chance to get them. A few hundred thousand Poles get a degree every year, so you won't impress anyone here with a master degree unless It is from some very famous university.

3. If you don't have a citizenship of any EU country, the employer would have to deal with a lot of paper work to get a permission to hire a non EU citizen and obviously they won't do that unless there is some special reason they need that person.

But on the other hand you've got some very rare skills like Serbian language or knowledge about the local market there... so in my opinion you should rather concentrate on that and search for jobs where these skills could be usefull, there must be very few of them but on the other hand also very few people who could do them. You could check Polish companies, which are investing/trading with Serbia (probably not many of them but there must be some...) and contact them... At worst you may try to find a job as a teacher of Serbian (rather not much of demand but also not much of supply) and do that for a year or two before you learn the language well enough. Generally you've got very little chance to get a normal job, so look for something uniqe, which require skills/knowledge you have.
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 Dec 30, 09, 00:02    #19
oh ok i got it, pretty much without language is hard, hard, hard! so what about if i would learn polish? i am learning it already, but if i would be really good? Would i still have less chances as forigner?
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 Dec 30, 09, 00:11    #20
strelicaa
strelicaa:
oh ok i got it, pretty much without language is hard, hard, hard! so what about if i would learn polish? i am learning it already, but if i would be really good? Would i still have less chances as forigner?

I think a lot of people are pessimistic on this thread. Yes not knowing Polish might make it a little more difficult, but in a lot of the bigger multi-national firms you shouldn't have too much problems in finding work, especially in your sector. You would have the same chance as anybody else, in some companies they don't even speak Polish to each other in the offices.
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 Dec 30, 09, 00:21    #21
strelicaa:
oh ok i got it, pretty much without language is hard, hard, hard!

How easy would it be to find a job for a Polish person who moved to Serbia with excellent English but only basic Serbian?

It's not going to be any easier for you in Poland.

On the other hand, you should be able to become very fluent in Polish very quickly. It's not so hard for speakers of other Slavic languages (except Bulgarian and Macedonian maybe). You'll still might have to start with something like a call center.

Also use google to find any Serbian (or other ex-yugoslav) communities in Poland (and or to find Serbian companies interested in Poland).
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 Dec 30, 09, 01:01    #22
ok sth positive now :))) thank U a lot :)))
P.S. start in call center is nothing bad, i need to start, better then sit home and complain about no haveing any money
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 Dec 30, 09, 01:12    #23
Just keep your chin up, you only have one life, you ain't gonna muck anything up by going and having a go ;)
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 Dec 30, 09, 14:44    #24
Keeping your chin up is good advice.
I relocated to Poznan from the UK in June of this year with (Polish) wife and our young daughter.
My wife got a job in the city before we moved so we had financial stability before we arrived.
We sorted out an appartment and a place in nursery for our daughter. That left me to get a job. Not being a Polish speaker we new it would be hard. I am TEFL qualified but did not want to take that up as a career, so i had to look for something else, well....... it's taken 6 months of sending CV after CV, applying for job after job, knocking on doors (lot's of doors), but I have managed to get a job. Ok it's in a call centre but it's work & I will be speaking my own native language, that's not to say I will be giving up on the Polish, I hope to resume my lessons again in the new year, (god it's a hard language to learn), but I'll plod on as I would like to say more than just good morning to my in-laws!

It's easy to say don't give up, but keep trying & you will get a job.
Good luck to you & a happy new year to all.
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 Dec 30, 09, 15:42    #25
valio - could you send me your CV please? I'm happy to pass it onto anyone that might be interested in you that I know - if it's the call centre I'm thinking of, your soul will be destroyed within weeks there ;)

My e-mail is office@lindenia.net :)
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 Dec 30, 09, 21:44    #26
Thank you all a lot, such support is definitlly a lot for me, cause when i hear no chance, it will be too hard, im getting really down
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 Jan 3, 10, 12:18    #27
just rob a bank in poland and escape back to serbia
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Edited by: rtz  Jan 3, 10, 15:52    #28
I am also moving to Poland and I know - I don't care what it will take - I'll just be there - cause this is my life and no one is about to take decisions instead of me ^^

Everyone have their own luck ^^
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 Jan 3, 10, 16:07    #29
I also just moved to Poland (Katowice) 3 months ago. I am American (or Arab Origin) and my husband is Polish - so I do have residency..

I have and MBA and I have worked in London, Dubai, Boston and NY as a researcher for different industries - but honestly, I dont think I will be able to find work here. Now this isnt the Polish pessimism from my partner rubbing off on me - i just dont see prospects for non Polish speakers. I know i should learn the language - but i am just not able to..

Granted I havent started looking for a job - but I believe that if anyone wants to work in Poland - unless its for a multi national - they need to learn polish
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 Jan 3, 10, 19:38    #30
Would there be any Serbian companies which have dealings in Poland? It might be an idea to check the polish embassy in Serbia or the Serbian Embassy in Poland (if there is one). Most embassies will have an enterprise wing which help businesses set up in the country where the embassy is in. So you might be able to identify some SErbian companies operating in Poland.


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