Kozminski Msc reviews.

Michael_jacksonThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Oct 23, 11 ♂	Jan 20, 12, 21:01 #1
Hello Guys, I was just wondering if you could leave some reviews about Master in Kozminski univeristy.How is the University for foreign students? Do leave genuine reviews. Thanks

scoutThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Mar 29, 12 ♀	Mar 29, 12, 19:25 #2
Merged: Reviews on universities Hello, want to know the opinion on the following universities:Lazarsky University and Leon Kozminsky Academy. Are they worth studying at? Do they really possess the title "Uniwersytet"? What about the recognition of their diplomas and level of education there? Thank you in advance!

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Edited by: Alligator Mar 30, 12, 18:29 #3

Łazarski and Koźmiński are private academies. They do not have "university" status. In Poland if academia do not have enough Phd courses and enough staff with highest academic titles (prof. ordinarius), thay can't use "university" title, but nontheles they are institutions of higher education.
The problem is translation and some differences between higher education systems.
Akademia, Uczelnia and Uniwersytet can be translated into "university".

I don't have any opinions about them. You probably saw their websites, but I will post them anyway ;)
http://www.kozminski.edu.pl/en/
http://www.lazarski.pl/en/

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Mar 30, 12, 18:52 #4

Alligator:

I don't have any opinions about them.

According to this University Business School Ranking in Poland:
http://www.eduniversal-ranking.com/business-school-university-ranking- in-poland.html
Kozminski University is placed 3rd (185% - whatever that means) with 4 Palmes (Top Business School, Internationally known), after University of Warsaw School of Management (265%, 4 Palmes) and SGH -Warsaw School of Economics (256%) with 5 Palmes (Universal Business School, with major international influence)

AlligatorThreads: - Posts: 350 Joined: Dec 15, 10 ♂	Edited by: Alligator Mar 30, 12, 18:58 #5
boletus: SGH -Warsaw School of Economics It is the best business school in Poland and it is not easy to get there.

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Edited by: boletus Mar 30, 12, 20:06 #6

Anyone seriously interested in higher education in Poland should start with "Perspektywy" Education Foundation to learn how seriously and honestly the Polish academic ranking system is currently being developed and maintained.

(Fundacja Edukacyjna „Perspektywy”- in Polish) is an independent, non-profit national organization established June 1st, 1998 to promote and support education. The Board of Foundation consists of present and former rectors of Polish universities and other outstanding public figures interested in the development of higher education in Poland.

http://www.perspektywy.org/

“Perspektywy” Foundation runs the Secretariat of the IREG Observatory on Academic Ranking and Excellence, an international association has established by universities and ranking organizations from USA, Europe and Asia (www.ireg-observatory.org )

There is also Polish version of website "Perspektywy", with many more details, perspektywy.pl .

The detailed rankings of Polish Higher Educational Institution (HEI), for the year 2011, are available here, http://www.perspektywy.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1 06&Itemid=83 . They are grouped in various categories, including academic HEIs, private Master level HEIs, private Bachelor level HEIs, state Bachelor level HEIs. The detailed methodology of ranking is included.

For example, in the category of best academic HEIs Kozminski and Lazarski universities are ranked as follows:
01 University of Warsaw - 100 overall points (the details of 32 ranking subcategories omitted)
02 Jagiellonian University - 99.71
03 Warsaw University f Technology - 85.52
04 Adam Mickiewicz University in Poznan - 76.38
25 Kozminski University - 44.86
…
81 Lazarski University - 19.32

On the other hand Kozminski is placed first on the list of 101 private Master level HEIs:

01 Kozminski University - 100
…
05 Lazarski University - 54.56

There are also field rankings: Economy Sciences, Medicine, Art and Humanities, Social Sciences, Life Science, Engineering and Informatics, Natural Sciences.

In the Economy Sciences group of 35 schools:
01 Warsaw School of Economics - 100
02 University of Warsaw - 76.6
03 Poznan University of Economics - 65.0
...
09 Kozminski University - 30.1

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Mar 30, 12, 22:09 #7

scout:

want to know the opinion on the following universities:Lazarsky University and Leon Kozminsky Academy.
Are they worth studying at? Do they really possess the title "Uniwersytet"?
What about the recognition of their diplomas and level of education there?

Both are generally regarded in Poland as very good schools. They don't have university status as in Poland only very large schools can get it but both of course can legally award master degrees and also doctorates. Rankings like the one above are also misleading in my opinion, public schools are always at the top but they are not always that good really...

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Mar 31, 12, 08:43 #8

Big thank to everyone for reply!
So in Poland it is possible to obtain a degree at the institution that's not "uniwersytet".
And not all the so called "universities" are really universities. Nevertheless, it is possible to obtain higher education there, right?
And what about the diplomas? Are they recognized? Because here, in Ukraine, private higher educational establishments are not that popular with the students.

Michael_jacksonThreads: 1 Posts: 15 Joined: Oct 23, 11 ♂	Mar 31, 12, 09:53 #9
The one thing i have come across that kozminski have some interesting programs and its AACSB accredited which only 5% of world universities have. Can anybody tell about the recognition of diploma nationally and internationally?

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Edited by: boletus Mar 31, 12, 13:53 #10

scout:

So in Poland it is possible to obtain a degree at the institution that's not "uniwersytet".
And not all the so called "universities" are really universities. Nevertheless, it is possible to obtain higher education there, right?

The confusion comes from translation of the Polish names of these schools into English, as "university". In Polish, these schools are called "Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego" (with z-acute and n-acute) and "Uczelnia Łazarskiego" (with L-slash), correspondingly.

The former is internationally recognized.

As of 2011, it is the only private business school in Poland with full doctorate (since 1998) and habilitation (since 2003) granting rights in management. It is also entitled by the Ministry of Science and Higher Education to grant PhD titles in law and economics (since 2009).
The school runs programs in Polish and in English at bachelor, master, postgraduate, MBA and doctorate levels in management, finance, law, European studies, sociology, psychology in management and administration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kozminski_University
Polish version of Wikipedia provides much more data here: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akademia_Leona_Koźmińskiego

Less can be said about Lazarski University. Here is the Polish Wikipedia link: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Łazarski_(uczelnia) .
It has several accreditations though (translated from the above link):

+ Department of Education of State of Delaware (USA), through which Lazarski School diplomas are recognized in the U.S.
+ University of Wales in Great Britain for English language programs at undergraduate and graduate levels, which allows graduates to obtain two degrees - Lazarski School and University of Wales
+ Center for International Legal Studies in Salzburg (Austria) for programs in Legal Skills and LL.M. in International Business Practice
+ Institute of State and Law, Russian Academy of Sciences (Russia) for the program Study of Russian Law

As part of the student and faculty exchange the School cooperates with more than 90 European universities and research institutions.

scoutThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Mar 29, 12 ♀	Mar 31, 12, 16:36 #11
Thank you for the info. Now I'll have to explore it more thoroughly by writing directly to those establishments. As to the University of Wales i found the following in the Wiki: The University of Wales was formally merged into Trinity Saint David at the end of October 2011. So I need to sort out this thing with Lazarsky...

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Mar 31, 12, 18:37 #12

scout:

Now I'll have to explore it more thoroughly by writing directly to those establishments.

Kozminski U. looks like a top school. I would not worry about it at all. There is also nothing wrong with the word "Akademia" itself. One of the best known state universities of technology in Poland, AGH University of Science and Technology is known in Polish as "Akademia Górniczo-Hutnicza", which directly translates as "Mining and Metallurgy Academy". Since the name "Academy" is not recognized everywhere, the name of AGH school is therefore translated as "University".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy

Same story with "Politechnika". All Polish universities that educate future engineers with various degrees (Bachelor, Master, PhD) are known as "Politechnika". However, some countries use the word "Politechnic" to describe also vocational studies.

It may be a world renowned institution of higher education and advanced engineering and scientific research or professional vocational education, specializing in science, engineering, and technology or different sorts of technical subjects. It may also refer to a secondary education school focused in vocational training.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politechnic

To avoid such misunderstanding Polish "Politechnika" is translated as "University of Technology".

scoutThreads: 1 Posts: 5 Joined: Mar 29, 12 ♀	Mar 31, 12, 18:48 #13
i've got it! thanks :)

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