Opinion required on teaching standards of Polands technology universities

Hi..
I am indian..I need your opinion on these 3 technological universities in POLAND..
All these colleges offering English teaching 7 or 8 semester courses in electronics and communications bachelor degree courses..
1) AGH UNIVERSITY OF SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY
KRAKOW,POLAND
2) PONZNAN UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY
PONZA, POLAND.
3) LODZ UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY
Lodz, Poland.
I want to know 1) teaching standard in these colleges.
2)whether these colleges are Internationally recognized and
3)can I do masters in USA , after finishing my bachelors in these colleges.
Thank you very much

AGH is a top school in Poland, probably the best engineering school in the country, and has a good reputation world-wide, at least in its specialty area, which is mining and metallurgy. £ódż and Poznań are second-tier schools in Poland, and don't have much recognition abroad.

A few caveats: If you're going to go to AGH, I would study mining and metallurgy, and get a masters in petroleum or geological engineering. The lifetime earning potential for those two fields is about double that for IT engineering, job opportunities are excellent, opportunities for advancement are superb, and job security is very high, even in times of recession. I don't know whether the programs taught in English are as good as those taught in Polish. Probably not, but it might be worth checking out.

I would expect IT at AGH to be be treated as the bastard little sister of mining and metallurgy. It may even be worse at AGH than at other engineering schools in Poland, such as Wrocław.

The Polish engineering students and grads I know are practically unanimous about two things: practical courses at Polish engineering schools are of very low quality and underfinanced, and there is very little partnering with the business community, which greatly reduces employment opportunities.

I would add two more things: compared to US universities, Polish universities care very little about their students, and there is precious little in the way of university community and spirit or campus life in Poland. No one is effusively proud of their school like they are in the US. I've never seen anybody in Poland wear a university T-shirt or sweatshirt, for example, and I deal with university students every day in a city with more than 100,000 students. Say what you want, but American-style university spirit and campus life are very motivating and comforting. This is particularly important for foreign students.

As a rule, English language programs at Polish universities are also bastard children. They generally have a poor reputation, though you have to check the particular program in question. Overall, these programs are far inferior to a good program at a good university in an English speaking country.

Going to a good engineering school in the States, for example, may be more expensive in the short term, but the quality of education is far superior, especially as far as practical courses and business partnerships are concerned. A degree from a top-notch school like Harvey Mudd or Rose-Hulman opens basically any door in the engineering world, and potential earnings for graduates from these schools are stellar. I wouldn't say the same for any school in Poland, even AGH.

As a matter of fact, I don't think that going to any engineering school in Poland is going to open any more doors than going to a better engineering school in India, which is probably the best option for you. I can't see any possible advantage of studying engineering in Poland over studying in India. It won't help you get into a good graduate program in the States any more than a getting a degree in India.

Spot on!
But I tell you that this aura is a 'recent' phenomenon. When people still had self respect in Poland, the universities were home to superb camaraderie, thoughtful discussions and fun. The old university student clubs had a lot of action, good gigs, music and ofcourse lots of booze - now that world has collapsed - educational standards have plummeted, self seeking 'professors' now spout pure codswallop from lecture theaters and the students register for pure nothingness... The immediate future is bleak - so to the poster of this thread - look elsewhere for education - Poland will give you no advantage out in the real world, the academic staff are likely to be biased on top of being incompetent. Sorry!

I can't say much having no comparison to other universities, but in £ódź the TUL (£ódź University of Technology, they are still using this obsolete abbreviation) the "international" departament (IFE) is considered very high level compared to the programmes taught in Polish. It's usually chosen by school students of highest marks from matura. So comparing the unis you shouldn't take into account only the rankings concerning whole universities. Rather try to find something concerning only programs taught in English (however, I've no idea if it's possible to find something like this).


On TUL campus I can see quite often people with the university scarfs. But they are usually... foreigners :) It's just not a feature of Polish students' culture.

Exactly. I'm not sure if anything is available, either.


lol

Im planning to go warsaw University of technology for power engineering Master , Do you think its a good university ? and it would make difference when I go back to job market anywhere.

am from Egypt btw

It's the best university in Poland, but you will not get a job here as I mentioned in other post. Although as a graduate of Polish university you can work in Poland without work permit, it's very unlikely (impossible), that somebody would like to employ foreigner in power engineering field instead of local. Foreigners working in Poland are either managers, language teachers, multilingual call center / outsourcing stuff, IT people, construction workers, farmers help or cleaning people.

i think its not a mandatory issue, if it is a multinational company, it will make no difference since i already have 4 years experience before master in multinational companies and also i worked in another foreigner countries

Come and see :)

Your post is by far the best I have seen on this forum regarding this issue.
I am even suprised you didn't get any stick from the lot that would normally jump at such an opportunity.
To the OP your chances are better if you enrol at a Uni in the UK if you can't go to the States.
There are some really good Tech Unis in India which collaborate with many well known Unis in the world.
I wonder why you would choose to study for a Bachelor's in Poland, if after that you are planning to study for a Master's in the States.

A good example I like to give is about websites in Poland,they can be institutions, government departments or even private companies, most of them show

multilingual options but when you choose any of the other languages you find out that the info there is far less than what you have in Polish.

Same applies as the courses offered in English at most Universities- speak to the students there and you will here a lot of discrepancies!
Always remember that tertiary education is not about quantity but quality.

Thank you very much. I know what I'm talking about. I mentor Polish students and high school kids interested in studying sciences, and most of the people I know are engineers or scientists, engineering and science students, or future engineering and science students. A few minutes ago, one of the students I mentor called me to tell me that he's been accepted into the engineering program at Detroit Mercy. With a full-ride scholarship! He's doing a half year prep at Portland State now, and just got a GPA of 3.86 for the Winter trimester. Not bad for a kid who was a hopeless slacker when I first met him.

Also, I've been living in Poland and involved in academia here for twelve years now, so I know the score. What's going on here is that Polish universities have recently begun to aggressively recruit students from developing countries because of the baby bust. A lot of the marketing I've seen has been really heavy on the hype and not exactly honest, to be frank. One thing that bothers me is that they sorta imply that foreign students will be able to work here in Poland during their studies. I don't know many foreign students that actually do. In fact, I don't know any. They also sorta imply that there are plenty of top jobs just waiting for them here in Poland. Get real! Engineering jobs in Poland are overwhelmingly outsourced or "internally outsourced", and far from well paid compared to the West.

Of course, there are plenty of fish that bite because they see Poland as a back door to the richer countries of the EU, or because they are not aware that Poland is not one of the richer countries in the EU.